Ar Tonelico Qoga is absolutely the best JRPG on PS3 so far ( imo )

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#1 finalstar2007
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Wow just wow.. I'd like to share my thoughts on the recently released Ar Tonelico Qoga for PS3 which been way too addicting for me.I seriously have never been this addicted before to a JRPG in a long time, i love JRPGs and i buy them all except i usually play an hour or two then switch to call of duty but man o man how epic this game is! i think it even beats final fantasy 13 and others as well like Eternal Sonata. here are my thoughts:

  • Amazing soundtrack
  • Top-notch voice acting
  • Fun gameplay
  • Great battle system
  • Hilarious and i mean hilarious!
  • Beautiful visuals
  • Towns

and list can go on and on. .. so what are everyone's thoughts? ( for thoughts that have it? )

the game in my opinion is a must own by everyone! must be played by as many people as possible and besides for $59.99 you get this sexy bundle:

Comes with:

  • Ar Tonelico Qoga PS3
  • Hardcover Artbook
  • Soundtrack CD containing over 60 Minutes of songs
  • Calander ( which is exclusive to purchasing the game from theNISA store )

Unboxing video by a fan

NISA store ( for now out of stock but more coming soon due to a huge demand )

Thank you very much NISA for bringing over such a great game

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Hmm, you might of convinced me. Found it somewhere for £30, it's coming out April 1st here.

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#3 fend_oblivion
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Being better than FF 13 and Eternal Sonata isn't much of an accomplishment...

What is the game about?

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#4 PoisoN_Facecam0
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I'm still waiting for the store I work at to get it in.. Can't freakin wait! This is getting me even more pumped up!!!
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#5 BlackendV
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The store I ordered from says it's still awaiting release. I'm pumped for it too. So far the good JRPGs this gen are missing elements like the adventuring or certain other aspects but this one looks to be the complete package.
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#6 -Hoax-
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Sorry but Persona 4 is the best JRPG this gen. :P I only heard of this game recently but I might try the game out when it's cheaper, do you need to play the other games in the series?
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#7 Pvt_r3d
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And here I was hoping that you were going to link to MY Ar Tonelico unboxing video. Anyways, is it really that great? I haven't started playing it yet, but the first 2 games are not exactly perfect.
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#8 dipsetboy17
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lol@finalstar: now you gonna wake up the haters again.;)

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#9 risako9
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Sorry but Persona 4 is the best JRPG this gen.-Hoax-

Yes. :"( i miss those days.

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#10 Texas2089
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Sorry but Persona 4 is the best JRPG this gen.-Hoax-
Agreed. They need to make Persona 5 soon :(
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I respect your opinion especially since you semm to be a huge JRPG fan, but I disagree with it being the best JRPG this gen. It's a fantastic game, don't get me wrong, and I love most of it. But there are just some points in the game that bug me, like the uninteressting bad told story and weird gameplay elements (why would Ravytails get stronger by striping? oO I do like the idea of having some kind of date sim, but seriously, they have to strip to be stronger? wtf?). Also the gameplay is a bit shallow, I enjoyed Star Oceans much more with twists like blind sides. Overall a fantastic game, one of the best, but not the best gen this gen (My list would look something like that: Disgaea 3 > ZHP > Rof = SO > AT > rest, never really enjoyed the NDS RPGs and excluding improved ports like the new port Phantom Brave on PSP ^^)

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#12 kairikh
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awesomeee i just got home and im installing it as we speak :P looking foward to syncing the soundtrack to my itunes as well :P it looks really cool just from the art book ^_^ glad u like it :D

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#13 jer_1
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If this is anything similar to Star Oceans then I wouldn't touch this game with a 10 foot pole, that game was pitifully boring and the story made me want to off myself. Please tell me this game isn't another "Made for 10 year olds!" style JRPG?!

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[QUOTE="fend_oblivion"]

Being better than FF 13 and Eternal Sonata isn't much of an accomplishment...

What is the game about?

Exactly what I was thinking. Since when were those two the games to beat? lol
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#15 jer_1
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[QUOTE="fend_oblivion"]

Being better than FF 13 and Eternal Sonata isn't much of an accomplishment...

What is the game about?

MrSelf-Destruct

Exactly what I was thinking. Since when were those two the games to beat? lol

I think they were two game that you don't want to get beat by. Agreed here too, why are RPG's just going downhill these days, why can they not try and make them for adults? The more recent JRPG's have completely ruined the whole thing for me, I hardly even want to load one up after Star Ocean or FF13. Thank god for games like Disgaea 3, at least there is still hope...

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Final, I just purged three times in a battle for the first time.

...wow.

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#17 Fightingfan
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You obviously haven't played Lost Odyssey or Vesperia....
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That would be reccetear.
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#19 gamenerd15
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You obviously haven't played Lost Odyssey or Vesperia....Fightingfan

Lost Odyssey isn't that tough to beat. That games stutters quite a bit of the time. The storyline is rather "been there done that." On the other hand Vesperia was awesome all the way through. Hopefully Tales of Graces delivers, which based off the demo, seems like it will.

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Sorry but Persona 4 is the best JRPG this gen. :P I only heard of this game recently but I might try the game out when it's cheaper, do you need to play the other games in the series?-Hoax-

Persona 4 came out on PS2 and therefore would be considered last generation.

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#21 SikKwuN
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i'm just wondering, do you have to play the first two Ar Tonelicos before the new one? i've been wanting a new rpg for a while. oh and imo, LO doesnt even belong in the same league as Vesperia
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#22 finalstar2007
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Being better than FF 13 and Eternal Sonata isn't much of an accomplishment...

What is the game about?

fend_oblivion

Hm im un-sure on how t explain it for you in short :P, you gotta play it to know but basically its in a world where songs give the people magical powers, u start it with a guy named aoto who suddenly encounter a young girl named saki which was being attacked by the army and an old man that gets killed, before the old man dies you ensure that aoto takes care of the girl ( saki ) and then story goes on :P, argh dont think i explianed it much, u just gotta play it to know :P

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#23 finalstar2007
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Sorry but Persona 4 is the best JRPG this gen. :P I only heard of this game recently but I might try the game out when it's cheaper, do you need to play the other games in the series?-Hoax-

You most certainly not required to play the past 2 games but if you want you can always get them from NISA store. its totaly safe to start with this one.. also Persona 4 is a last gen game :P

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#24 finalstar2007
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And here I was hoping that you were going to link to MY Ar Tonelico unboxing video. Anyways, is it really that great? I haven't started playing it yet, but the first 2 games are not exactly perfect.Pvt_r3d

o lol where is your inboxing video?? im very interested in doing one well

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I respect your opinion especially since you semm to be a huge JRPG fan, but I disagree with it being the best JRPG this gen. It's a fantastic game, don't get me wrong, and I love most of it. But there are just some points in the game that bug me, like the uninteressting bad told story and weird gameplay elements (why would Ravytails get stronger by striping? oO I do like the idea of having some kind of date sim, but seriously, they have to strip to be stronger? wtf?). Also the gameplay is a bit shallow, I enjoyed Star Oceans much more with twists like blind sides. Overall a fantastic game, one of the best, but not the best gen this gen (My list would look something like that: Disgaea 3 > ZHP > Rof = SO > AT > rest, never really enjoyed the NDS RPGs and excluding improved ports like the new port Phantom Brave on PSP ^^)

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The striping element is very weird at first indeed but you get used to it the more you play :P, you can always turn it off if you want as i noticed it in the options section, your correct the battle system sure is very clsoe to star ocean, i personally loving it, think a bit better then AT2, Disgaea 3 comes 4th spot now for me :P as its AT3 then valkyria then FFXIII then Eternal Sonata then disgaea then the rest :P. same never seemed to like dS games except pokemon and world ends with you, loving the game so much!

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#26 finalstar2007
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If this is anything similar to Star Oceans then I wouldn't touch this game with a 10 foot pole, that game was pitifully boring and the story made me want to off myself. Please tell me this game isn't another "Made for 10 year olds!" style JRPG?!

jer_1

lol nope this isnt pokemon it is so not made for 10 years olds :P.. heck the boxart clearly says 17+ :P.. anyways i played SO4 and even though it is annoying indeed the battle system was amazing, this game is far not like SO4 but battle system a bit close to SO, very great game.

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Final, I just purged three times in a battle for the first time.

...wow.

Scianix-Black

lol so far i was only able to do it once, i been using the X option where Saki start using attacks more and mroe as it deals a good amount of damage to the enemy :D

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#28 finalstar2007
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You obviously haven't played Lost Odyssey or Vesperia....Fightingfan

Wish i can play vesperia but not worth gettign a new system, maybe someday, will see how graces will turn out to be

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#29 finalstar2007
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i'm just wondering, do you have to play the first two Ar Tonelicos before the new one? i've been wanting a new rpg for a while. oh and imo, LO doesnt even belong in the same league as VesperiaSikKwuN

Nope you dont need to play the first two games to play this, think of it like final fantasy, each game has its own story

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#30 Flame_Blade88
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Sorry but Persona 4 is the best JRPG this gen. :P-Hoax-
I second this.
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I'll probably end up getting this game at some point

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#32 risako9
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That would be reccetear.DJ_Headshot

It's a decent JRPG but not ground breaking IMO

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Nuff Said.

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#34 finalstar2007
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Nuff Said.

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Wish if Namco brought this to Na but good thing we got 2 tales coming to ps3 :P

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[QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

Nuff Said.

finalstar2007

Wish if Namco brought this to Na but good thing we got 2 tales coming to ps3 :P

I thought if Tales of Graces sold well enough, ToV would be localized? Or am I wrong?

Either way, Im getting all Tales games

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Sorry but Persona 4 is the best JRPG this gen. :P I only heard of this game recently but I might try the game out when it's cheaper, do you need to play the other games in the series?-Hoax-

Amen to that. I highly doubt Ar Tonelico Qoga is better than the masterpiece known as Persona 4.

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FF13 > haters.

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#38 funsohng
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Persona 4 and if that doesn't count, Valkyria Chronicles.
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

Nuff Said.

UC3Drake

Wish if Namco brought this to Na but good thing we got 2 tales coming to ps3 :P

I thought if Tales of Graces sold well enough, ToV would be localized? Or am I wrong?

Either way, Im getting all Tales games

Doubtful. If anything, strong sales for Graces will only improve the chances of Xillia being localized. I think by them localizing Graces over Vesperia they've basically said they're moving forward with the series. If they were going to localize the older game, they probably would have done so first.

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.........

I... ummm.....

Ill simply say I disagree and say Xenoblade and Tales of Graces (f) are the best JRPGs this gen thus far IMHO.

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.........

I... ummm.....

Ill simply say I disagree and say Xenoblade and Tales of Graces (f) are the best JRPGs this gen thus far IMHO.

Shirokishi_

Arent both games in Japanese so far? has xenoblade been annonced yet for English localization? just wondering and you play Japanese games? wish i understood japanese it would have been so much easier and i would have probably imported anything interesting without waiting so long

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#42 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Wish if Namco brought this to Na but good thing we got 2 tales coming to ps3 :P

Texas2089

I thought if Tales of Graces sold well enough, ToV would be localized? Or am I wrong?

Either way, Im getting all Tales games

Doubtful. If anything, strong sales for Graces will only improve the chances of Xillia being localized. I think by them localizing Graces over Vesperia they've basically said they're moving forward with the series. If they were going to localize the older game, they probably would have done so first.

There is still a chance i guess in seeing ToV PS3 still, people just gotta support these games then they will be convinced to bring over as many games as possible

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#43 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

.........

I... ummm.....

Ill simply say I disagree and say Xenoblade and Tales of Graces (f) are the best JRPGs this gen thus far IMHO.

finalstar2007

Arent both games in Japanese so far? has xenoblade been annonced yet for English localization? just wondering and you play Japanese games? wish i understood japanese it would have been so much easier and i would have probably imported anything interesting without waiting so long

Yeah, both games are Japanese only as of now and I play Japanese imports all the time.

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#44 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

.........

I... ummm.....

Ill simply say I disagree and say Xenoblade and Tales of Graces (f) are the best JRPGs this gen thus far IMHO.

Shirokishi_

Arent both games in Japanese so far? has xenoblade been annonced yet for English localization? just wondering and you play Japanese games? wish i understood japanese it would have been so much easier and i would have probably imported anything interesting without waiting so long

Yeah, both games are Japanese only as of now and I play Japanese imports all the time.

So you actually understand japanese? or you use online translation? also why these games on the wii never see an English localization?? dont wii owners beg or annoy for a localization? fans of the games should learn from the Tales fans, NISA fans, Atlus fans and Xseed, keep requesting or even annoying them till they break and localize the games, according to a few people on the fourms i hear xenoblade and last story are both fun to play. glad Graces is coming over so i can try it out but Namco havent even mentioned or even said a thing about it yet, i have a feeling they just said it to shut the fans lol

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#45 Shirokishi_
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Arent both games in Japanese so far? has xenoblade been annonced yet for English localization? just wondering and you play Japanese games? wish i understood japanese it would have been so much easier and i would have probably imported anything interesting without waiting so long

finalstar2007

Yeah, both games are Japanese only as of now and I play Japanese imports all the time.

So you actually understand japanese? or you use online translation? also why these games on the wii never see an English localization?? dont wii owners beg or annoy for a localization? fans of the games should learn from the Tales fans, NISA fans, Atlus fans and Xseed, keep requesting or even annoying them till they break and localize the games, according to a few people on the fourms i hear xenoblade and last story are both fun to play. glad Graces is coming over so i can try it out but Namco havent even mentioned or even said a thing about it yet, i have a feeling they just said it to shut the fans lol

No, I dont understand Japanese, I use guides.

You think begging got Graces its localization? Not at all. The series is known for its inconsistent localizations, fans didnt influence anything, Bamco is doing what they see fit.

Im almost 100% sure XSeed is the only company you mentioned that actually listens to fan suggestions. NISA, ATLUS and Bamco do what they see fit.

You're free to believe wht you want though.

And yes, Xenoblade, Graces and The Last Story are fantastic, true examples of quality console JRPGs this gen I assure you.

Graces probably is in a very early localization state. Most localizations are announced the same way though. Revealed, then media is released down the road.

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#46 Texas2089
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[QUOTE="Texas2089"]

[QUOTE="UC3Drake"] I thought if Tales of Graces sold well enough, ToV would be localized? Or am I wrong?

Either way, Im getting all Tales gamesfinalstar2007

Doubtful. If anything, strong sales for Graces will only improve the chances of Xillia being localized. I think by them localizing Graces over Vesperia they've basically said they're moving forward with the series. If they were going to localize the older game, they probably would have done so first.

There is still a chance i guess in seeing ToV PS3 still, people just gotta support these games then they will be convinced to bring over as many games as possible

No offense, but that kinda of optimism is only going to lead to disappointment. If they were going to localize Vesperia, they would have done so already. I'm glad we're getting Graces and hope it sells well enough for them to bring over future Tales games (namely Xillia), but I seriously doubt they'll go back and localize and older games.
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#47 Scianix-Black
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Final, I just purged three times in a battle for the first time.

...wow.

finalstar2007

lol so far i was only able to do it once, i been using the X option where Saki start using attacks more and mroe as it deals a good amount of damage to the enemy :D

The damage actually multiplies the more you purge and the less clothing the Ryvateils have on, lol. I also fused Finchan and Yurisica together, so now I've got her in my party permanently. Now I'm going to have to fuse Saki and Sarapatra together, SO I CAN HAVE SARAPATRA IN MY PARTY FOR ETERNITY.

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#48 Dahaka-UK
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You think begging got Graces its localization? Not at all. The series is known for its inconsistent localizations, fans didnt influence anything, Bamco is doing what they see fit.

Shirokishi_

Orly?

3 years of complaining from fans and hardcore Tales fanboys. Not surprised they gave in.

Shirokishi_

Clearly a contradiction there from a previous thread you posted in. Unless it was a hint of sarcasm, I don't know. Either way, the only way we're going to get more JRPGs localized is 1: complain and beg for these releases, it is what shows we're interested after all and 2: Support the damn developers and throw your money down for these games and stop being such a damn FF fanboy. It's irrelevent which JRPG are the best, just buy those games. I honestly think JRPGs are on the brink of destruction this gen for many reasons, one being the fanbases.

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#49 finalstar2007
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Yeah, both games are Japanese only as of now and I play Japanese imports all the time.

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So you actually understand japanese? or you use online translation? also why these games on the wii never see an English localization?? dont wii owners beg or annoy for a localization? fans of the games should learn from the Tales fans, NISA fans, Atlus fans and Xseed, keep requesting or even annoying them till they break and localize the games, according to a few people on the fourms i hear xenoblade and last story are both fun to play. glad Graces is coming over so i can try it out but Namco havent even mentioned or even said a thing about it yet, i have a feeling they just said it to shut the fans lol

No, I dont understand Japanese, I use guides.

You think begging got Graces its localization? Not at all. The series is known for its inconsistent localizations, fans didnt influence anything, Bamco is doing what they see fit.

Im almost 100% sure XSeed is the only company you mentioned that actually listens to fan suggestions. NISA, ATLUS and Bamco do what they see fit.

You're free to believe wht you want though.

And yes, Xenoblade, Graces and The Last Story are fantastic, true examples of quality console JRPGs this gen I assure you.

Graces probably is in a very early localization state. Most localizations are announced the same way though. Revealed, then media is released down the road.

Well overall these companies deserve as much support as possible i say, if only Ar Tonelico qoga wasnt out of stock at the moment from NISA store i would get another copy for my bro :P.. i'll do the same 2 copies for Graces F. only they gotta do is bring it over and play my first HD tales game

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#50 Victorious_Fize
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Now now, that is a subjective statement.