Win7 x64 - Wahts the big deal - I don't see an improvement...?

I have recently installed the Beta Win 7 - I don't see a difference in performance. I've turned off all the unnecassary features to try and run it a lean as possible. Still idles @ atleast 600mb, minor issues with programs freezing. I can't stand the START menu config. options. The only decent things that I think help, are DX11 and preloaded drivers that made it easier to install on my rig.

So, waht's the hype all about? IMO, Might as well do another SP for Vista with DX11..

X~

improvements are MS started naming there OS after numbers:D

improvements are MS started naming there OS after numbers:D

LithuanianGamer

I'm not suggesting that it runs bad - nor does my system run slow. I'm stating taht - if a company is investing to improve a product - shouldn't there be improvements?? lol . I fail to see the Improvement from Vista 64 to Win7 64.

The name.Can you read ? :D

I'm not suggesting that it runs bad - nor does my system run slow. I'm stating taht - if a company is investing to improve a product - shouldn't there be improvements?? lol . I fail to see the Improvement from Vista 64 to Win7 64.

Xsan3

If you currently have vista switching to Windows 7 is a total waste of money.

I will switch to windows 7 when I am working on a new build though, for now, this computer will stay on vista. Why fix what isn't broken?

I'm not suggesting that it runs bad - nor does my system run slow. I'm stating taht - if a company is investing to improve a product - shouldn't there be improvements?? lol . I fail to see the Improvement from Vista 64 to Win7 64.

Xsan3

I think mostly its alot of under the hood improvements/tweaked UI/stripped down slightly/optimization and basically plugged everything that may have been wrong with Vista (for me I've had no problems really), but for me the differences between Vista 64 and Win 7 64 are not as clear as alot are making them out to be.

Although the differences arent leaping at me, I can see subtle changes and additions that I'm pleasently surprised about.

I've pre-ordered Windows 7 Home Premium E 64-bit Retail Edition for £49.99. As for us Europeans pre-ordering between the 15th July to August 1st with a participating retailer like Anvika.co.uk, why not get a full version for 50 quid?

I think the interesting thing is . . When the people who originally hated Vista and switched backimmediately to XP, and teh "Average" users that had a lot of issues with Vista - I can just imagine being sold a new Desk.or Laptop and being stuck with Win-7, and having the exact same response as they did withVista...

I think the interesting thing is . . When the people who originally hated Vista and switched backimmediately to XP, and teh "Average" users that had a lot of issues with Vista - I can just imagine being sold a new Desk.or Laptop and being stuck with Win-7, and having the exact same response as they did withVista...

Xsan3

I guess what I mean is, it uses alot of resources. Completly unfamiliar to the Average user. It may be a bit buggy - as u said urself, It's now in the developmental stage - so we have no idea how the polished version will actually be.

Further, I will say that I have enjoyed Vista very well. My machine has plenty of power and resources for it. I Love the simplicity of install. Once I got passed figuring out a couple setups - I agree that I would not return to XP or any other version of Windows (with the exception of 98se) I just think that people have a hard time with change, especially those who are'nt very comp. savvy. And it's too bad Vista has scorn itself with the general public and Windows had to try and completely change everything once again - yet - I still don't see the major improvements.

X~

Windows 7 on my computer uses 1gb just doing nothing. Thankfully I have 4gb total so it doesn't effect me. One thing I like about it is that it boots up fast.

Well I certainly would'nt discourage anyone from getting Win7 nor Vista.

However, there is one thing that I can't help but to lingre in my brain. All of these tweaks-updates-and what ever gimmicks to make Windows more attractive for folks.

This is waht I'm trying to get at. For the typical base user, utilizing any of these operating systems, when will they ever see the improvements. I'll say the new OS's crash less. But I'm focusing on - When I click and open a program, or play a game, compress video and app files - - - Where's the improvement for any of that? When do any of us really see that all these new gimmicks and gadgets do anything better?

UI tweaks someone mentioned, when will I see that when Im on You Tube, or checking my hotmail???

Kinda off topic guys, but I keep hearing that Vista will have DX11 too. How is that possible?I don't want to upgrade to Win7, and want to stay with Vist x64

Please help :)

Kinda off topic guys, but I keep hearing that Vista will have DX11 too. How is that possible?I don't want to upgrade to Win7, and want to stay with Vist x64

Please help :)

AdoringFan_

Jsut a stab in the dark - but my idea is taht it will be a simple upgrade like, WMP - and the DX series prior to XP. Ya know how games ask you - "would you like to upgrade to DX-9?" same goes with dx 6 7 8 etc...

[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

Kinda off topic guys, but I keep hearing that Vista will have DX11 too. How is that possible?I don't want to upgrade to Win7, and want to stay with Vist x64

Please help :)

Xsan3

Jsut a stab in the dark - but my idea is taht it will be a simple upgrade like, WMP - and the DX series prior to XP. Ya know how games ask you - "would you like to upgrade to DX-9?" same goes with dx 6 7 8 etc...

So basically like a download from the internet right?

Well, that's just a speculation. Seems that would be the thing to do though..

Oh ok. Can anyone respond to my first post? I need the pros help about this. :)

Oh ok. Can anyone respond to my first post? I need the pros help about this. :)

AdoringFan_

If you currently have vista switching to Windows 7 is a total waste of money.

I will switch to windows 7 when I am working on a new build though, for now, this computer will stay on vista. Why fix what isn't broken?

SinfulPotato

Kinda off topic guys, but I keep hearing that Vista will have DX11 too. How is that possible?I don't want to upgrade to Win7, and want to stay with Vist x64

Please help :)

AdoringFan_

[QUOTE="Xsan3"]

I'm not suggesting that it runs bad - nor does my system run slow. I'm stating taht - if a company is investing to improve a product - shouldn't there be improvements?? lol . I fail to see the Improvement from Vista 64 to Win7 64.

General_X

I guess what I mean is, it uses alot of resources. Completly unfamiliar to the Average user. It may be a bit buggy - as u said urself, It's now in the developmental stage - so we have no idea how the polished version will actually be.

Further, I will say that I have enjoyed Vista very well. My machine has plenty of power and resources for it. I Love the simplicity of install. Once I got passed figuring out a couple setups - I agree that I would not return to XP or any other version of Windows (with the exception of 98se) I just think that people have a hard time with change, especially those who are'nt very comp. savvy. And it's too bad Vista has scorn itself with the general public and Windows had to try and completely change everything once again - yet - I still don't see the major improvements.

X~

Xsan3

[QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

Oh ok. Can anyone respond to my first post? I need the pros help about this. :)

Xsan3

Win7 is fundamentally similar to Vista, so I think it is pretty likely that DX11 will come to Vista as well as to Win7.theragu40

[QUOTE="theragu40"]Win7 is fundamentally similar to Vista, so I think it is pretty likely that DX11 will come to Vista as well as to Win7.rock_solid

I really want to get a new OS, but I think it would be better to wait a while after Win7's release though.

so people are going to get owned again,hmmm...god how much i love XP and my Nvidia 8500GT

so people are going to get owned again,hmmm...god how much i love XP and my Nvidia 8500GT

GazaAli

[QUOTE="Xsan3"]

I guess what I mean is, it uses alot of resources. Completly unfamiliar to the Average user. It may be a bit buggy - as u said urself, It's now in the developmental stage - so we have no idea how the polished version will actually be.

Further, I will say that I have enjoyed Vista very well. My machine has plenty of power and resources for it. I Love the simplicity of install. Once I got passed figuring out a couple setups - I agree that I would not return to XP or any other version of Windows (with the exception of 98se) I just think that people have a hard time with change, especially those who are'nt very comp. savvy. And it's too bad Vista has scorn itself with the general public and Windows had to try and completely change everything once again - yet - I still don't see the major improvements.

X~

rock_solid

Personally, I'm not confused about the SUPERFETCH application - however, I still don't see improvment of "speed" when opening a program or game; compared to Vista, XP or heck even 95, 98, ME, 2000 etc. It seems to me that SUPERFETCH is just an overendulgent HOG .

[QUOTE="rock_solid"][QUOTE="Xsan3"]

I guess what I mean is, it uses alot of resources. Completly unfamiliar to the Average user. It may be a bit buggy - as u said urself, It's now in the developmental stage - so we have no idea how the polished version will actually be.

Further, I will say that I have enjoyed Vista very well. My machine has plenty of power and resources for it. I Love the simplicity of install. Once I got passed figuring out a couple setups - I agree that I would not return to XP or any other version of Windows (with the exception of 98se) I just think that people have a hard time with change, especially those who are'nt very comp. savvy. And it's too bad Vista has scorn itself with the general public and Windows had to try and completely change everything once again - yet - I still don't see the major improvements.

X~

Xsan3

Personally, I'm not confused about the SUPERFETCH application - however, I still don't see improvment of "speed" when opening a program or game; compared to Vista, XP or heck even 95, 98, ME, 2000 etc. It seems to me that SUPERFETCH is just an overendulgent HOG .

Wholy COW !! I just disabled SUPERFETCH from my Win7 - and my resource went from idling at 700mb to 1.22GB

How does that make sense?

Well, i turned the SUPERFETCH back on and the memory usage went back down to normal idle. currently @ 690mb with this site up..

I think win7 is a downgrade, maybe after it matures it will be good, but right now Ill just stay away.

I think win7 is a downgrade, maybe after it matures it will be good, but right now Ill just stay away.

TerroRizing

With the Beta version - you could be right about that. My major reason for loading up Win7 were,

1) I needed to reinstall - rig was acting funny.

2) I was interested (of course).

3) Is it any better?

4) Might as well start learning to navigate the OS - cause no matter if people like it or not - it's coming!

Sorry if this was already mentioned. But so far it seems to me that windows 7 communicates much better with other versions of windows than vista did. I never had vista but other members of my family have struggled with local area network stuff withvista. Windows 7 seems to be doing a better job. Maybe Microsoft realised not everyone is going to get windows vista for all thier computers just so they can connect over LAN.

Sorry if this was already mentioned. But so far it seems to me that windows 7 communicates much better with other versions of windows than vista did. I never had vista but other members of my family have struggled with local area network stuff withvista. Windows 7 seems to be doing a better job. Maybe Microsoft realised not everyone is going to get windows vista for all thier computers just so they can connect over LAN.

BryB

so people are going to get owned again,hmmm...god how much i love XP and my Nvidia 8500GT

GazaAli

I think win7 is a downgrade, maybe after it matures it will be good, but right now Ill just stay away.

TerroRizing

[QUOTE="TerroRizing"]

I think win7 is a downgrade, maybe after it matures it will be good, but right now Ill just stay away.

theragu40

Well there is a beta you know ;)