Why Do people seem to hate the PC

This has always bugged me about EA and Lucasarts is that i always felt as though that they hated PC gaming. Am I crazy or is their any truth to this at all?

You're crazy, EA doesn't hate PC, EA releases absolutely anything that has even a slim chance of being sold on PC as for LA, why would anyone care? how many decades has it passed since they were actually making games worth playing?DanielDust

Yes. My dad's from EA and he sits and growls at a PC in his living room every time I see him when I visit.

You're crazy, EA doesn't hate PC, EA releases absolutely anything that has even a slim chance of being sold on PC as for LA, why would anyone care? how many decades has it passed since they were actually making games worth playing?DanielDust

This has always bugged me about EA and Lucasarts is that i always felt as though that they hated PC gaming. Am I crazy or is their any truth to this at all?

Lord_Cocoo_Puff

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This has always bugged me about EA and Lucasarts is that i always felt as though that they hated PC gaming. Am I crazy or is their any truth to this at all?

vfibsux

I will never forgive EA for taking Madden from the PC and for making sure no one else could make another NFL PC game either.vfibsux

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]You're crazy, EA doesn't hate PC, EA releases absolutely anything that has even a slim chance of being sold on PC as for LA, why would anyone care? how many decades has it passed since they were actually making games worth playing?Lord_Cocoo_Puff

EA is a business, they're the most fair developers/publishers out there when it comes to platform affinity, they don't care about platforms, they care about money, an example would be ME, the super awesome and PC loving developer called Bioware made that game as a console exclusive, EA is the reason this series also began on PC and continued due to EA purchasing them.

Also, it seems this thread turned from a title used to draw attention and start some controversy into, you just want more RTSs, EA isn't responsible of the RTS genre, all developers are, you have RTSs to play and they're made well enough to last till another title gets released, RTS is niche, they don't sell, only Blizzard, CA and Firaxis makes good money off strategy games nowadays, we don't have many RTSs because everyone knows this and few want to risk an investment that will surely not make decent profits. Money comes from action games and FPSs that's why those are made in hundreds every year.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"] I'm sure you and the other few Americans will bare this grudge against them forever. They stopped porting it and nobody else tries to make such a game, because American Football doesn't sell anywhere except America where people interested are all on consoles, like FIFA doesn't sell much in America, but Europe where PC is still dominant by far.

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[QUOTE="DanielDust"]You're crazy, EA doesn't hate PC, EA releases absolutely anything that has even a slim chance of being sold on PC as for LA, why would anyone care? how many decades has it passed since they were actually making games worth playing?DanielDust

EA is a business, they're the most fair developers/publishers out there when it comes to platform affinity, they don't care about platforms, they care about money, an example would be ME, the super awesome and PC loving developer called Bioware made that game as a console exclusive, EA is the reason this series also began on PC and continued due to EA purchasing them.

Also, it seems this thread turned from a title used to draw attention and start some controversy into, you just want more RTSs, EA isn't responsible of the RTS genre, all developers are, you have RTSs to play and they're made well enough to last till another title gets released, RTS is niche, they don't sell, only Blizzard, CA and Firaxis makes good money off strategy games nowadays, we don't have many RTSs because everyone knows this and few want to risk an investment that will surely not make decent profits. Money comes from action games and FPSs that's why those are made in hundreds every year.

no not really i was just stating that in general because lets face it you dont see many RTS's anymore. I just would wish people would be more excited for RTS's and not so much FPS's or get more pumped for Rpgs or RTTS or even Space Sims if developers and publishers would put more faith in PC but that is my opinion anyway so take it or leave it

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]I will never forgive EA for taking Madden from the PC and for making sure no one else could make another NFL PC game either.DanielDust

I've always thought of EA as favouring the PC. I'm not sure if it will stay that way once these AMD equipped consoles come out but it's probably reason for console elitists to celebrate and rip on the PC even more.

EA, and every major publisher hates PC because of piracy. I thought everyone knew that. PC has higher piracy rates than console for some reason. I find it strange because it is nearly as easy to pirate on console as on PC, in most cases.

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[QUOTE="vfibsux"]I will never forgive EA for taking Madden from the PC and for making sure no one else could make another NFL PC game either.vfibsux

Just a small FYI, there were 2 or 3 such games developed in the last few years, but nobody bought them, because nobody cares about these games, even if you find that hard to believe, nothing will change. Buy those games and then try to make a point, now you're just a hypocrite grasping at hate straws.

Considering EA publishes the Sims, which includes some of the best selling PC games of all time, I don't think they hate the PC.

But the general answer will probably be teh piracy!

Nah

Nobody hates the PC.

Companies want more control of it.

Individuals want games to be more scalable so they can play on their laptop or tablets.

It's a big business, lots of money involved.

I don't think EA and others hate PC, I'm pretty sure it's the other way around...

No Tigerwoods, NHL Hockey, John Madden football on PC....why is that?

No Tigerwoods, NHL Hockey, John Madden football on PC....why is that?

Videodogg

No market.

I think people don't understand that these big companies spend thousands of dollars on market research and budget/demand analysis. If the game isn't selling on PC, and they are loosing money, why do gamers expect them to keep creating more versions?

Why do they release FIFA each year on PC? Cause football is the most played sport in the world, and the most popular... and FIFA is popular EVERYWHERE, and lots of people in the world own PCs instead of consoles.

Yes, it pisses me off that there are no physical copies of Fifa 13 for PC, or that NHL 13 did not get ported at all.

The only company I have a grudge against is Microsoft for selling me a $340 Xbox360 which broke after 3 short years. I wouldn't have even needed to buy a PC if Microsoft actually built a reliable console.

Yes, it pisses me off that there are no physical copies of Fifa 13 for PC, or that NHL 13 did not get ported at all.

The only company I have a grudge against is Microsoft for selling me a $340 Xbox360 which broke after 3 short years. I wouldn't have even needed to buy a PC if Microsoft actually built a reliable console.

strategyfn

Ehhhh...what are you talking about? I have a physical copy at home, my local EB Games has lots of them.

The first batch of Xbox360s had the ring of death problem. PCs sometimes break in 3 years too you know.

I haven't seen a physical copy of Fifa 13, and I've looked in numerous stores, maybe because I live in Canada with only medium sized cities around me.

If a PC breaks though it is usually easier to fix: you can bring it to any quality PC repair technician, instead of shipping it to Microsoft to get your gaming system fixed.

I haven't seen a physical copy of Fifa 13, and I've looked in numerous stores, maybe because I live in Canada with only medium sized cities around me.

If a PC breaks though it is usually easier to fix: you can bring it to any quality PC repair store, instead of having to deal with Microsoft to get your gaming system fixed.

strategyfn

I guess depends where you live in BOTH your examples.

I'm in Australia and I go to any store with PC Gaming and they normally have physical copies of FIFA13 and previous versions.

If you really want a physical copy: http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/Games-/139973/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fifa+13&_dmpt=AU_PC_Video_Games_Games&Platform=PC&rt=nc

As for the XBOX, Microsoft is the "quality repair store", but I've seen stores that repair XBOX as well locally.

Oh, I thought the rumuor was that in most cases you needed to send it to some Microsoft hub, and have them officially repair it. Probably not worth it now to get my 360 fixed, I imagine it would cost around $180. I assume there are some outside technicians that will fix a broken 360, but that MS wanted in most cases to fix your console personally.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"][QUOTE="DanielDust"] I'm sure you and the other few Americans will bare this grudge against them forever. They stopped porting it and nobody else tries to make such a game, because American Football doesn't sell anywhere except America where people interested are all on consoles, like FIFA doesn't sell much in America, but Europe where PC is still dominant by far.DanielDust

Just a small FYI, there were 2 or 3 such games developed in the last few years, but nobody bought them, because nobody cares about these games, even if you find that hard to believe, nothing will change. Buy those games and then try to make a point, now you're just a hypocrite grasping at hate straws.

Again, since you seem pretty clueless on this......if it ain't NFL it ain't gonna sell, period. Terrible debate. Stick with soccer.

Oh, I thought the rumuor was that in most cases you needed to send it to some Microsoft hub, and have them officially repair it. Probably not worth it now to get my 360 fixed, I imagine it would cost around $180. I assume there are some outside technicians that will fix a broken 360, but that MS wanted in most cases to fix your console personally.

strategyfn

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[QUOTE="vfibsux"] Ummm that is where you are wrong. The NFL football market used to behuge on the PC with at least 3 competitors at all times, EA MONOPOLIZED the genre with the help of the NFL by getting the exclusive license from them. No other company has made an NFL PC game BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE SUED BY EA. Educate yourself before defending megacorporations who would not take a second out of their existence to think of little ol you, it looks ridiculous.

vfibsux

Just a small FYI, there were 2 or 3 such games developed in the last few years, but nobody bought them, because nobody cares about these games, even if you find that hard to believe, nothing will change. Buy those games and then try to make a point, now you're just a hypocrite grasping at hate straws.

Again, since you seem pretty clueless on this......if it ain't NFL it ain't gonna sell, period. Terrible debate. Stick with soccer.

Let me input my two cents here:

Actually yes. Look at PES. Not licensed for lots of teams yet millions playing.

"were" being the keyword. Madden saw a big shift from PC to consoles around the year 2003-2004 if I remember correctly. Apart from EA or not licensing the brand, they analyzed the market and saw less and less people buying the PC version. It got to a point where they weren't making money on PC so why would they keep releasing versions? (with the console platform gaining Madden Crowd).

I'm not taking sides or anything, just stating the facts. I always want PC to have the broadest range and I hate when something is made exclusive (either to PC or consoles). I feel ur pain though, I would be devastated if FIFA was taken off PC since I've been playing it from 1994 onwards.

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[QUOTE="vfibsux"] Ummm that is where you are wrong. The NFL football market used to behuge on the PC with at least 3 competitors at all times, EA MONOPOLIZED the genre with the help of the NFL by getting the exclusive license from them. No other company has made an NFL PC game BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE SUED BY EA. Educate yourself before defending megacorporations who would not take a second out of their existence to think of little ol you, it looks ridiculous.

vfibsux

Just a small FYI, there were 2 or 3 such games developed in the last few years, but nobody bought them, because nobody cares about these games, even if you find that hard to believe, nothing will change. Buy those games and then try to make a point, now you're just a hypocrite grasping at hate straws.

Again, since you seem pretty clueless on this......if it ain't NFL it ain't gonna sell, period. Terrible debate. Stick with soccer.

Okay, wow, you're so convincing, I wonder why EA stopped porting the game. Don't be delusional, the game was dead, just like NHL a series I liked and it was obviously dead, EA doesn't stop making games because they want to, they stop because "nobody" buys them, less than a few tens of thousands of Americans is nobody as I'm sure you know no game will be kept alive with so few buyers.

EA and Lucasarts release games where they will sell most. A bad console game has a good chance of outselling a good pc game because of rentals.

I won't even give you the respect to quote your posts any further on this topic.

If you had an ounce of sense you would see my major complaint is not EA ditching their Madden line pn the PC, it is that no one else is allowed to fill that hole. I'm done here talking to EA fanboys about this. 

EA spent $200 Million on a PC exclusive, I don't think they hate PC gaming.

I won't even give you the respect to quote your posts any further on this topic.

If you had an ounce of sense you would see my major complaint is not EA ditching their Madden line pn the PC, it is that no one else is allowed to fill that hole. I'm done here talking to EA fanboys about this. 

vfibsux

This has always bugged me about EA and Lucasarts is that i always felt as though that they hated PC gaming. Am I crazy or is their any truth to this at all?

Lord_Cocoo_Puff

This.EA are pretty PC friendly, porting games to PC in most situations. They are pushing Origin because it gets them a lot more revenue per game sold. Their CEO in the past has said that the digital PC sector is the biggest growth in their business. Nutcrackr

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]You're crazy, EA doesn't hate PC, EA releases absolutely anything that has even a slim chance of being sold on PC as for LA, why would anyone care? how many decades has it passed since they were actually making games worth playing?FelipeInside

They don't hate the PC. 

This will always depend on the market, they will always ask the question if this "game" will benifit in the PC or not. Big companies like them will always question this. It's always the matter of users in the market. 

I'm sure you and the other few Americans will bare this grudge against them forever. They stopped porting it and nobody else tries to make such a game, because American Football doesn't sell anywhere except America where people interested are all on consoles, like FIFA doesn't sell much in America, but Europe where PC is still dominant by far.DanielDust

[QUOTE="DanielDust"] I'm sure you and the other few Americans will bare this grudge against them forever. They stopped porting it and nobody else tries to make such a game, because American Football doesn't sell anywhere except America where people interested are all on consoles, like FIFA doesn't sell much in America, but Europe where PC is still dominant by far.yellosnolvr

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]You're crazy, EA doesn't hate PC, EA releases absolutely anything that has even a slim chance of being sold on PC as for LA, why would anyone care? how many decades has it passed since they were actually making games worth playing?FelipeInside

No man, your not the only one, I have yet to start Force Unleashed 2 but I really really enjoyed the first one even tho it was almost the worst port for PC.

EA, and every major publisher hates PC because of piracy. I thought everyone knew that. PC has higher piracy rates than console for some reason. I find it strange because it is nearly as easy to pirate on console as on PC, in most cases.

Falconoffury

If developers started complaining about piracy on consoles they would start losing support from the manufacturers. Negative press about a system will keep new developers from wanting to waste time with it. Case in point would be the PSP.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"] I'm sure you and the other few Americans will bare this grudge against them forever. They stopped porting it and nobody else tries to make such a game, because American Football doesn't sell anywhere except America where people interested are all on consoles, like FIFA doesn't sell much in America, but Europe where PC is still dominant by far.yellosnolvr

Didn't happen with FIFA...

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]You're crazy, EA doesn't hate PC, EA releases absolutely anything that has even a slim chance of being sold on PC as for LA, why would anyone care? how many decades has it passed since they were actually making games worth playing?FelipeInside

Well generally PC gaming is a PITA. You must think that every user has potentially different hardware configurations. Then the developer must balance one game for every possible hardware conflict. Then they must provide support for users who may still have problems running the game on their PC, this will mean either telephone support or forums. Then there's piracy which prevelant on consoles but more easily accessible on PC. The benefits to PC gaming at the moment are digital distribution but I'm sure many devs would like to only develop for console as its much easier.

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I won't even give you the respect to quote your posts any further on this topic.

If you had an ounce of sense you would see my major complaint is not EA ditching their Madden line pn the PC, it is that no one else is allowed to fill that hole. I'm done here talking to EA fanboys about this. 

DanielDust

Once again non-American ignorant to AMERICAN football guy......the NFL IS FOOTBALL is in this country. No one wants to play "smashem up made-up backyard league" football. The NFL is the only game in town, the FACT you don't get that shows this topic is just not one you should even be involved in. This would be the same as me telling some Euro dude how his soccer (sorry, football) game should be. You're an arrogant and you're insulting, it is shame Gamepost allows your kind of trash anymore.

Lucasarts just hates gamers in general, I still can't believe they haven't released a new Battlefront...

because its not mainstream like consoles are and people on PC usually dont buy the crap they want to push at us because we are more sceptical and usually dont rush to buy things before really looking into a game.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]You're crazy, EA doesn't hate PC, EA releases absolutely anything that has even a slim chance of being sold on PC as for LA, why would anyone care? how many decades has it passed since they were actually making games worth playing?BattleSpectre