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#101 Wasdie  Moderator
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I wouldn't worry about performance guys. This build could be a month behind their actual build. They are also doing this beta to collect performance information to find out which setups are having the most problems.

With the team the size of DICE they can get a lot of work done in a month.

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#102 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Yeah performance problems are likely due to it being an old build that just doesn't crash. For the most part I can play ultra with MSAA off and it runs near 60 all the time on my 670. Though there are moments when it all tanks

My issue is that the colour scheme for the map makes it really fvcking hard to see people. It's so dark and gloomy and everyone blends in to environments. 

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#103 Wasdie  Moderator
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Are you using the latest beta drivers? I hear those have some issues. 

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#104 Sweetbackhair
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Other than a little performance issues, I like the beta but it's basically BF3 with newer maps.
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#105 wis3boi
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Other than a little performance issues, I like the beta but it's basically BF3 with newer maps.Sweetbackhair
feels nothing like bf3
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#106 Sweetbackhair
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[QUOTE="Sweetbackhair"]Other than a little performance issues, I like the beta but it's basically BF3 with newer maps.wis3boi
feels nothing like bf3

Obviously there's newer stuff added to it, but I didn't really feel anything different so far (I only played for 20 minutes so I might be wrong). Either or I loved BF3 to begin with so this is a no brainer that I'll enjoy this game.
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#107 Gooeykat
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Performance was a little off for me, I only have 4GB of RAM so that I might be the issue. I'd say it's more of an evolution of BF3, won't change most people's mind if they didn't like the last game.
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#108 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="Sweetbackhair"]Other than a little performance issues, I like the beta but it's basically BF3 with newer maps.Sweetbackhair
feels nothing like bf3

Obviously there's newer stuff added to it, but I didn't really feel anything different so far (I only played for 20 minutes so I might be wrong). Either or I loved BF3 to begin with so this is a no brainer that I'll enjoy this game.

Exactly what were you expecting? They aren't going to reinvent the wheel every 2 years.

BF Vietnam felt like BF1942, BF2142 felt like BF2. When they find an engine and formula that works they tend to stick with it. BF3 was the best selling Battlefield game yet. People liked it and are used to it. They aren't going to radically change the formula.

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#109 lockjaw333
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Yeah performance problems are likely due to it being an old build that just doesn't crash. For the most part I can play ultra with MSAA off and it runs near 60 all the time on my 670. Though there are moments when it all tanks

My issue is that the colour scheme for the map makes it really fvcking hard to see people. It's so dark and gloomy and everyone blends in to environments.

seanmcloughlin

I would kinda agree with this, I'm finding it a bit difficult to see enemies. I didn't really put together that it was the map color scheme, but that could be it.

One thing I'm not a big fan of is the after-death camera focusing on your killer and highlighting them in red. Seems kinda weird. I prefer the way they do it in BF3, just shifting the camera to a 3rd person view of your killer. No red highlighting.

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#110 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Are you using the latest beta drivers? I hear those have some issues. 

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Yeah I am, they seem worse than what I was using

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#111 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Also anyone notice the obnoxious lens flares on lights indoors? You run passed them and a big purple flare fills the screen. It's really annoying

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#112 wis3boi
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Also anyone notice the obnoxious lens flares on lights indoors? You run passed them and a big purple flare fills the screen. It's really annoying

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doesnt do that on my end
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#113 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Also anyone notice the obnoxious lens flares on lights indoors? You run passed them and a big purple flare fills the screen. It's really annoying

wis3boi

doesnt do that on my end

Like the flourescent lights in the hallways? It's like a purple flash of light washes over the screen as you walk by them

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#114 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Those Nvidia beta drivers are terrible for me. It stutters like crazy even on low

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#115 deactivated-579f651eab962
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Things I like so far:

 

Sprint Toggle instead of Hold

Picture in Picture Spawn Cam

The Lift

Graphics are Improved

New and Improved UI

Gunplay seems more refined

 

Things I dislike

I don't Own it Yet :cry:

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#116 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Things I dislike

I don't Own it Yet :cry:

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Only thing I don't like so far is the screen shake can be a bit overdone. If there's a lot happening around you the screen can be shaking constantly making it hard to spot dudes

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#117 wis3boi
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Those Nvidia beta drivers are terrible for me. It stutters like crazy even on low

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yeah, my game was having some bugs so I updated drivers...and they suck. Old ones were better. Havent tried my AMD machine yet though
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#118 lostrib
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Also anyone notice the obnoxious lens flares on lights indoors? You run passed them and a big purple flare fills the screen. It's really annoying

seanmcloughlin


I get lens flare from car tail lights and i think it's a damn enemy laser pointed at me 

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#119 Wasdie  Moderator
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The Battlelog forums hate the game. Call it too much like Call of Duty. Exact opposite of what I'm seeing on Reddit and Gamespot.

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#120 lostrib
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The Battlelog forums hate the game. Call it too much like Call of Duty. Exact opposite of what I'm seeing on Reddit and Gamespot.

Wasdie

...have they played call of duty :|

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#121 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The Battlelog forums hate the game. Call it too much like Call of Duty. Exact opposite of what I'm seeing on Reddit and Gamespot.

lostrib

...have they played call of duty :|

I think it's just the default insult people use when a game isn't exactly like how they want it to be. A lot of them wish it ware more like BF3. I honestly don't know what they are talking about. These fools are idiots.

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#122 Kinthalis
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Been great so far. Super smooth 60+ FPS, everythign on Ultra at 2560x1440p.

 

The main take away from the beta, is the greater emphasis on destruciton, and how it adds complexity to the battlefield, elevation, cover, etc.

 

Really liking it.

 

I suck though. Man, I'm super rusty. I've also been playing Chilvalry like crazy, so sometimes I find myself trying to move up to enemies, instead fo shooting!

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Tried to reinstall older drivers and my computer crashed and restarted saying it was checking my disks :? Never had that happen before. 

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#124 NaveedLife
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Been great so far. Super smooth 60+ FPS, everythign on Ultra at 2560x1440p.

 

The main take away from the beta, is the greater emphasis on destruciton, and how it adds complexity to the battlefield, elevation, cover, etc.

 

Really liking it.

 

I suck though. Man, I'm super rusty. I've also been playing Chilvalry like crazy, so sometimes I find myself trying to move up to enemies, instead fo shooting!

Kinthalis

What do you have for hardware?

My brother runs it very well (not perfect) on mostly high, some ultra, no AA.  I have a lot of framerate issues and it doesn't look as good.  

 

My setup is 8 GB RAM, i5750 OC'd to 4 GHz, GTX 670 FTW edition.

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What do you have for hardware?

My brother runs it very well (not perfect) on mostly high, some ultra, no AA.  I have a lot of framerate issues and it doesn't look as good.  

 

My setup is 8 GB RAM, i5750 OC'd to 4 GHz, GTX 670 FTW edition.

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#126 wis3boi
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The Battlelog forums hate the game. Call it too much like Call of Duty. Exact opposite of what I'm seeing on Reddit and Gamespot.

Wasdie

i lose brain cells reading those forums

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#127 uninspiredcup
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Does this one have teamwork or is like 3?

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The Battlelog forums hate the game. Call it too much like Call of Duty. Exact opposite of what I'm seeing on Reddit and Gamespot.

Wasdie

...have they played call of duty :|

I think it's just the default insult people use when a game isn't exactly like how they want it to be. A lot of them wish it ware more like BF3. I honestly don't know what they are talking about. These fools are idiots.

I guess if you only play the domination mode then it's kind of like CoD

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#129 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The Battlelog forums hate the game. Call it too much like Call of Duty. Exact opposite of what I'm seeing on Reddit and Gamespot.

Wasdie

...have they played call of duty :|

I think it's just the default insult people use when a game isn't exactly like how they want it to be. A lot of them wish it ware more like BF3. I honestly don't know what they are talking about. These fools are idiots.

It was the same when BF3 launched, everyone there hated it and wanted it to be like BF2. Now BF4 releases and they hate that and want it to be like BF3.

The cycle repeats itself

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#130 with_teeth26
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Does this one have teamwork or is like 3?

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sounds like 3 but with more explosions and lense flares. 

I feel BF as teamwork based games are a thing of the past 

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#131 NaveedLife
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[QUOTE="uninspiredcup"]

Does this one have teamwork or is like 3?

with_teeth26

sounds like 3 but with more explosions and lense flares. 

I feel BF as teamwork based games are a thing of the past 

This is such a silly thing to say.  Maybe some other FPS games put more emphasis on it, making any lone wolf absolutely useless, but BF3 requires teamwork.  Without it, the other team WILL beat you (if they have teamwork).

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#132 awptical
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Hate to jump on the "its cod! crowd", but I have to agree. The recoil is dumbed down a bit and theres very little jump from the gun when shooting. I absolutely hate the UI, its such a massive downgrade and the annoying death cam going orange is just rediculously ugly. I almost want to cancel my preorder entirely, but that probably isnt a choice. I realize the game is in BETA, but its runs like supershit even though the visuals arent improved on BF3. I'm going to be totally honest and say I prefer the BF3 visuals better. In fact, everything so far is better in BF3. Weapons handling, vehicle handling, UI, etc you name it. Every thing about this feels worse to me. I'll probably get flamed but whatever. Is it possible to cancel if I pre ordered off of Origin?

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#133 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

...have they played call of duty :|

seanmcloughlin

I think it's just the default insult people use when a game isn't exactly like how they want it to be. A lot of them wish it ware more like BF3. I honestly don't know what they are talking about. These fools are idiots.

It was the same when BF3 launched, everyone there hated it and wanted it to be like BF2. Now BF4 releases and they hate that and want it to be like BF3.

The cycle repeats itself

the funny thing is this is a lot more like BF2

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I absolutely hate the UI, its such a massive downgrade 

awptical

Really?  The map UI is SO much better.  it isn't a tiny icon fest that doesn't allow you to click on the thing you want to spawn on.

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Games crashed twice for me freezing my Computer. But i'm not 100% sure if it's the game or my CPU Fan, which has been humming like mad when I play anything demanding.

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Well i learned you can open and close container doors

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The Battlelog forums hate the game. Call it too much like Call of Duty. Exact opposite of what I'm seeing on Reddit and Gamespot.

Wasdie
Did they not play Battlefield 3 or something? It feels pretty much identical to me. Anyway I've enjoyed what I've played so far, and it runs fine for me, the occasional big drop every few minutes but mostly 45-60FPS on Ultra with a 3570K and a 7950. The maps pretty good too, way better than Op Metro was from the BF3 beta, but one thing I really dislike on it is the Levolution aspect, they turn a fun interesting play space into a lame grey blob a third of the way through the match, all for the sake of a 20 second "cool" moment that loses it's impact after the first 3 times. I hope it's not like that on too many of the maps.
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The Battlelog forums hate the game. Call it too much like Call of Duty. Exact opposite of what I'm seeing on Reddit and Gamespot.

bobbetybob

Did they not play Battlefield 3 or something? It feels pretty much identical to me. Anyway I've enjoyed what I've played so far, and it runs fine for me, the occasional big drop every few minutes but mostly 45-60FPS on Ultra with a 3570K and a 7950. The maps pretty good too, way better than Op Metro was from the BF3 beta, but one thing I really dislike on it is the Levolution aspect, they turn a fun interesting play space into a lame grey blob a third of the way through the match, all for the sake of a 20 second "cool" moment that loses it's impact after the first 3 times. I hope it's not like that on too many of the maps.

well the problem is that whoever holds C can camp the elevator doors really easily.  So to defeat them you bring the building down

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Games crashed twice for me freezing my Computer. But i'm not 100% sure if it's the game or my CPU Fan, which has been humming like mad when I play anything demanding.

TwistedShade

something has been humming for me too.  Strange...I just noticed it the other day when running 3D Mark, and now when I launched BF4.

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[QUOTE="awptical"]

I absolutely hate the UI, its such a massive downgrade 

NaveedLife

Really?  The map UI is SO much better.  it isn't a tiny icon fest that doesn't allow you to click on the thing you want to spawn on.

I like the map better, Ill give it that. But dont like the rest. Especially at the end of the game when it hands out points. All the Icons are some crappy minimalist idea gone very wrong. Hopefully thats just placeholder.
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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The Battlelog forums hate the game. Call it too much like Call of Duty. Exact opposite of what I'm seeing on Reddit and Gamespot.

lostrib

Did they not play Battlefield 3 or something? It feels pretty much identical to me. Anyway I've enjoyed what I've played so far, and it runs fine for me, the occasional big drop every few minutes but mostly 45-60FPS on Ultra with a 3570K and a 7950. The maps pretty good too, way better than Op Metro was from the BF3 beta, but one thing I really dislike on it is the Levolution aspect, they turn a fun interesting play space into a lame grey blob a third of the way through the match, all for the sake of a 20 second "cool" moment that loses it's impact after the first 3 times. I hope it's not like that on too many of the maps.

well the problem is that whoever holds C can camp the elevator doors really easily.  So to defeat them you bring the building down

Well they could easily have found a way round that like having some quick spawning non-lethal choppers that people could use as an alternate access point. I just don't really like fighting in a pile of rubble is all.
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="bobbetybob"] Did they not play Battlefield 3 or something? It feels pretty much identical to me. Anyway I've enjoyed what I've played so far, and it runs fine for me, the occasional big drop every few minutes but mostly 45-60FPS on Ultra with a 3570K and a 7950. The maps pretty good too, way better than Op Metro was from the BF3 beta, but one thing I really dislike on it is the Levolution aspect, they turn a fun interesting play space into a lame grey blob a third of the way through the match, all for the sake of a 20 second "cool" moment that loses it's impact after the first 3 times. I hope it's not like that on too many of the maps.bobbetybob

well the problem is that whoever holds C can camp the elevator doors really easily.  So to defeat them you bring the building down

Well they could easily have found a way round that like having some quick spawning non-lethal choppers that people could use as an alternate access point. I just don't really like fighting in a pile of rubble is all.

Looking at the rubble, I feel like it's missing textures since it's all very biege

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The guys on reddit are saying the TTK is shorter. I don't know how I feel about that. BF3's was a bit too long given the pace but I don't know how much shorter I would want it to be.

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#144 lostrib
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The guys on reddit are saying the TTK is shorter. I don't know how I feel about that. BF3's was a bit too long given the pace but I don't know how much shorter I would want it to be.

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TTK=Time to Kill, yes? isn't that going to depend on the gun?

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The guys on reddit are saying the TTK is shorter. I don't know how I feel about that. BF3's was a bit too long given the pace but I don't know how much shorter I would want it to be.

Wasdie

Feels about the same to me. I shot half a mag into a dude with the starting engie weapon and he didn't die

also that grenade launcher the support have is OP as fvk I thnk

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#146 lostrib
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The guys on reddit are saying the TTK is shorter. I don't know how I feel about that. BF3's was a bit too long given the pace but I don't know how much shorter I would want it to be.

seanmcloughlin

Feels about the same to me. I shot half a mag into a dude with the starting engie weapon and he didn't die

also that grenade launcher the support have is OP as fvk I thnk

The engineer PDW is innaccurate as hell except at close range

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#147 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

The guys on reddit are saying the TTK is shorter. I don't know how I feel about that. BF3's was a bit too long given the pace but I don't know how much shorter I would want it to be.

lostrib

Feels about the same to me. I shot half a mag into a dude with the starting engie weapon and he didn't die

also that grenade launcher the support have is OP as fvk I thnk

The engineer PDW is innaccurate as hell except at close range

sidenote: I think all the weapon models in the game are sexy as hell
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Ok I seriously can't play. I put everything down to low and played a 32 player domination match and it's extremely stuttery. Turning fast makes everything a slideshow and this is with old and new drivers

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#149 lostrib
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Ok I seriously can't play. I put everything down to low and played a 32 player domination match and it's extremely stuttery. Turning fast makes everything a slideshow and this is with old and new drivers

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some people on reddit have been saying that the 320.49 drivers work better, as well as closing battlelog after starting the game

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I have not played it yet but I am so gald they are doing these tests to stress the servers, find more bugs, see how balance shoudl be changed,etc..

Hopefully the open beta will be even more of a stress test and they can get most issues ironed out before release in a month.

One thing ive noticed watching the ign stream today, the level  sure seems alot bigger than bf3 and also the customization sure seems like there is alot more in that regard.