Poll: Is Skyrim better than Morrowind?

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[QUOTE="KalDurenik"]I have not changed my mind... Skyrim is Oblivion v2.0 Better then oblivion. Worse then Morrowind. A good try with some improvments (handcrafted > copy paste) but its like the devs cant decide if they should make a action / adventure game or a rpg.KalDurenik

There is no depth to the mathematical masturbation part, you mean. I sure loved hitting something that's right in front of me and only 1/20 hits actually connecting!

Not sure how you could justify that either way, sans a poll or something, the point remains though. Lots of people do have similar RPG experience, and don't agree with the codex mindset. Their opinion holds no more weight than anyone else and categorizing the ones who disagree with them as casuals or inexperienced is just some superiority complex at work.Renevent42

[QUOTE="KalDurenik"][QUOTE="bussinrounds"] They're trying to do both and that's the problem. See my sig.

Baranga

There is no depth to the mathematical masturbation part, you mean. I sure loved hitting something that's right in front of me and only 1/20 hits actually connecting!

Considering that almost any game under the sun is better than Morrowind, yes Skyrim kills it.

[QUOTE="KalDurenik"][QUOTE="bussinrounds"] They're trying to do both and that's the problem. See my sig.

Baranga

There is no depth to the mathematical masturbation part, you mean. I sure loved hitting something that's right in front of me and only 1/20 hits actually connecting!

1) I understand how morrowind work and yes it have flaws. However even as flaws they still make sense in this part. You MISS because your CHARACTER is bad at using something. In other words the combat is not "twitch" based instead character stats / Skill based. While this system is badly done in morrowind (yes i said it) it makes some sense so i understand WHY im missing.

2)There are a lot of games with a lot better RPG mechanisms then Morrowind.

3)What i meant is that skyrim stops half way so its in this awkward "dead" zone where its not a good rpg system or a good action game. There are a lot of action games around that have better combat systems.

Also i agree on the Codex thing. Its a nice change to all the "bling bling = AWESOME" things now days.

Not saying Skyrim is a BAD game. But its not as some people have said "Future of rpg's" And if it is... Well dark days for rpgs...

Maybe 6/10 (better then average) but nothing special.

after more than 65 hours with the game i must say no - it not better than morrowing overall.

1. menu system - horrible and not optimized for PC at all.

2. very simple and linear quest lines (i guess since they put so much content in the game they had to cut on quest complexity)

3. the game is much more simple (three types of magic damage, three types of melee damage)

4. you are playing a glorified delivery boy that kills anything that stand in his path.

The game feels very very shallow to me - everything is very simple, most quests are basically the same action over and over.

The biggest problem is that all this also affects the quality of the story (both main quest and side quests) - it feels like a one line story.

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[QUOTE="KalDurenik"] Yes thats what i meant ;)... Its trying to do both. Both are average at best due to that. There is no depth to the RPG part. And the combat / phase of the game is like 10 years old for a action game.KalDurenik

There is no depth to the mathematical masturbation part, you mean. I sure loved hitting something that's right in front of me and only 1/20 hits actually connecting!

1) I understand how morrowind work and yes it have flaws. However even as flaws they still make sense in this part. You MISS because your CHARACTER is bad at using something. In other words the combat is not "twitch" based instead character stats / Skill based. While this system is badly done in morrowind (yes i said it) it makes some sense so i understand WHY im missing.

2)There are a lot of games with a lot better RPG mechanisms then Morrowind.

3)What i meant is that skyrim stops half way so its in this awkward "dead" zone where its not a good rpg system or a good action game. There are a lot of action games around that have better combat systems.

Also i agree on the Codex thing. Its a nice change to all the "bling bling = AWESOME" things now days.

Not saying Skyrim is a BAD game. But its not as some people have said "Future of rpg's" And if it is... Well dark days for rpgs...

Maybe 6/10 (better then average) but nothing special.

1.) So taking immersion out of a game whose whole purpose is immersion is a good thing?

2.) Yes, Skyrim is one of them.

3.) Or it just hits the nail perfectly on the head and combines elements from completely different types of games very well. There is no game out there that does what Skyrim does better than Skyrim. The game isn't bad, just not suited to your tastes.

If you show someone today who has never played Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim and ask them to play them in any order, I'm pretty sure they would say Skyrim is the best game out of all three, with Oblivion being second best and Morrowind the worst out of the three. Stop being blinded by nostalgia.

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There is no depth to the mathematical masturbation part, you mean. I sure loved hitting something that's right in front of me and only 1/20 hits actually connecting!

shakmaster13

1) I understand how morrowind work and yes it have flaws. However even as flaws they still make sense in this part. You MISS because your CHARACTER is bad at using something. In other words the combat is not "twitch" based instead character stats / Skill based. While this system is badly done in morrowind (yes i said it) it makes some sense so i understand WHY im missing.

2)There are a lot of games with a lot better RPG mechanisms then Morrowind.

3)What i meant is that skyrim stops half way so its in this awkward "dead" zone where its not a good rpg system or a good action game. There are a lot of action games around that have better combat systems.

Also i agree on the Codex thing. Its a nice change to all the "bling bling = AWESOME" things now days.

Not saying Skyrim is a BAD game. But its not as some people have said "Future of rpg's" And if it is... Well dark days for rpgs...

Maybe 6/10 (better then average) but nothing special.

1.) So taking immersion out of a game whose whole purpose is immersion is a good thing?

2.) Yes, Skyrim is one of them.

3.) Or it just hits the nail perfectly on the head and combines elements from completely different types of games very well. There is no game out there that does what Skyrim does better than Skyrim. The game isn't bad, just not suited to your tastes.

If you show someone today who has never played Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim and ask them to play them in any order, I'm pretty sure they would say Skyrim is the best game out of all three, with Oblivion being second best and Morrowind the worst out of the three. Stop being blinded by nostalgia.

Uncertain. It's miles better than Oblivion though.

I MISS MY LEVITATION-SPELLS!

I would have to say I find it a whole lot better than Morrowind. Never could get really into Morrowind at all, but am really enjoying my time with Skyrim