Most Overated Game Designer?

More of a developer, but they still have designers up at Rockstar. Their resume consists of repetition, repetition and some more repetition. They effectively stopped designing games after GTA3, and just let the name sell copies. San Andreas was the last straw. Who wants to spend their time learning how to swim in a video game, in order to be able to do a mission? Or having to have to eat every 20 minutes at Cluckin' Bell. Damn that game was stupid... And don't get me started on the graphics!monco59

Since GTA 3 they added motorcycles, helicopters, airplanes(that you could actually fly), got big name actors, licensed popular music, larger gameworld, stealth missions, you can play pool, 80's arcade games and poker. They addressed the complaints about not being able to swim which isnt hard to learn and instead of having to go back to your hideout or hunt down a health you can simply go to a resturaunt. No outdoor loading, mantling, dual wielding and light rpg elements as well.

PS2 + open world + fast moving vehicles = bad graphics. Games like this will always be behind in the graphics dept until we reach photorealism.

[QUOTE="monco59"]More of a developer, but they still have designers up at Rockstar. Their resume consists of repetition, repetition and some more repetition. They effectively stopped designing games after GTA3, and just let the name sell copies. San Andreas was the last straw. Who wants to spend their time learning how to swim in a video game, in order to be able to do a mission? Or having to have to eat every 20 minutes at Cluckin' Bell. Damn that game was stupid... And don't get me started on the graphics!Cranler

Since GTA 3 they added motorcycles, helicopters, airplanes(that you could actually fly), got big name actors, licensed popular music, larger gameworld, stealth missions, you can play pool, 80's arcade games and poker. They addressed the complaints about not being able to swim which isnt hard to learn and instead of having to go back to your hideout or hunt down a health you can simply go to a resturaunt. No outdoor loading, mantling, dual wielding and light rpg elements as well.

PS2 + open world + fast moving vehicles = bad graphics. Games like this will always be behind in the graphics dept until we reach photorealism.

[QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="monco59"]More of a developer, but they still have designers up at Rockstar. Their resume consists of repetition, repetition and some more repetition. They effectively stopped designing games after GTA3, and just let the name sell copies. San Andreas was the last straw. Who wants to spend their time learning how to swim in a video game, in order to be able to do a mission? Or having to have to eat every 20 minutes at Cluckin' Bell. Damn that game was stupid... And don't get me started on the graphics!monco59

Since GTA 3 they added motorcycles, helicopters, airplanes(that you could actually fly), got big name actors, licensed popular music, larger gameworld, stealth missions, you can play pool, 80's arcade games and poker. They addressed the complaints about not being able to swim which isnt hard to learn and instead of having to go back to your hideout or hunt down a health you can simply go to a resturaunt. No outdoor loading, mantling, dual wielding and light rpg elements as well.

PS2 + open world + fast moving vehicles = bad graphics. Games like this will always be behind in the graphics dept until we reach photorealism.

Look at Graw 2, Halo 2, Oblivion. They all have less additions than the GTA sequels. I forgot they also added robbery and more melee moves in the sequels. They could have made Vice City just a Miami version of GTA 3 but even without any competition in the new genre they made quite a few additions to the game.

This is a pc forum. So you shouldnt be commenting on the targeting system which isnt used in the pc version. Never had any graphical glitches on the pc versions either.

Vice City is the 2nd highest rated pc game of all time. San Andreas is 13th.

[QUOTE="monco59"][QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="monco59"]More of a developer, but they still have designers up at Rockstar. Their resume consists of repetition, repetition and some more repetition. They effectively stopped designing games after GTA3, and just let the name sell copies. San Andreas was the last straw. Who wants to spend their time learning how to swim in a video game, in order to be able to do a mission? Or having to have to eat every 20 minutes at Cluckin' Bell. Damn that game was stupid... And don't get me started on the graphics!Cranler

Since GTA 3 they added motorcycles, helicopters, airplanes(that you could actually fly), got big name actors, licensed popular music, larger gameworld, stealth missions, you can play pool, 80's arcade games and poker. They addressed the complaints about not being able to swim which isnt hard to learn and instead of having to go back to your hideout or hunt down a health you can simply go to a resturaunt. No outdoor loading, mantling, dual wielding and light rpg elements as well.

PS2 + open world + fast moving vehicles = bad graphics. Games like this will always be behind in the graphics dept until we reach photorealism.

Look at Graw 2, Halo 2, Oblivion. They all have less additions than the GTA sequels. I forgot they also added robbery and more melee moves in the sequels. They could have made Vice City just a Miami version of GTA 3 but even without any competition in the new genre they made quite a few additions to the game.

This is a pc forum. So you shouldnt be commenting on the targeting system which isnt used in the pc version. Never had any graphical glitches on the pc versions either.

Vice City is the 2nd highest rated pc game of all time. San Andreas is 13th.

And you just proved my point as well. Vice City is the 2nd highest rated pc game of all time? VICE CITY??? If that isn't overrated, I don't know what is... 

[QUOTE="ChocoKat"]John D. Carmack II the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Carmack, on the other hand, has done zilch. When it comes right down to it, Wolfenstein and Doom were little different mechanically from top-down shooters, and Quake wasn't all that different from Dark Forces. And as final proof that Carmack can't design a game to save his life, I give you Doom 3.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="monco59"][QUOTE="Cranler"]

[QUOTE="monco59"]More of a developer, but they still have designers up at Rockstar. Their resume consists of repetition, repetition and some more repetition. They effectively stopped designing games after GTA3, and just let the name sell copies. San Andreas was the last straw. Who wants to spend their time learning how to swim in a video game, in order to be able to do a mission? Or having to have to eat every 20 minutes at Cluckin' Bell. Damn that game was stupid... And don't get me started on the graphics!monco59

Since GTA 3 they added motorcycles, helicopters, airplanes(that you could actually fly), got big name actors, licensed popular music, larger gameworld, stealth missions, you can play pool, 80's arcade games and poker. They addressed the complaints about not being able to swim which isnt hard to learn and instead of having to go back to your hideout or hunt down a health you can simply go to a resturaunt. No outdoor loading, mantling, dual wielding and light rpg elements as well.

PS2 + open world + fast moving vehicles = bad graphics. Games like this will always be behind in the graphics dept until we reach photorealism.

Look at Graw 2, Halo 2, Oblivion. They all have less additions than the GTA sequels. I forgot they also added robbery and more melee moves in the sequels. They could have made Vice City just a Miami version of GTA 3 but even without any competition in the new genre they made quite a few additions to the game.

This is a pc forum. So you shouldnt be commenting on the targeting system which isnt used in the pc version. Never had any graphical glitches on the pc versions either.

Vice City is the 2nd highest rated pc game of all time. San Andreas is 13th.

And you just proved my point as well. Vice City is the 2nd highest rated pc game of all time? VICE CITY??? If that isn't overrated, I don't know what is... 

Both games will be coming to pc soon and we know they both have very few changes compared to the 1st.

Its rated so high because it improved upon one of the most revolutionary games ever. They put a lot of the money they made off GTA 3 into Vice City.

Name a sequel that has more additions and was designed around the same hardware than the GTA franchise.

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"][QUOTE="ChocoKat"]John D. Carmack II PutU2REM

Carmack, on the other hand, has done zilch. When it comes right down to it, Wolfenstein and Doom were little different mechanically from top-down shooters, and Quake wasn't all that different from Dark Forces. And as final proof that Carmack can't design a game to save his life, I give you Doom 3.

this isnt for you inpaticular , but I quoted you anyways . John carmack Does Not desighn games . Contrary to what people believe , There was special on tv a few yrs back and On Gamespot about this . John only does the programming - the code

this isnt for you inpaticular , but I quoted you anyways . John carmack Does Not desighn games . Contrary to what people believe , There was special on tv a few yrs back and On Gamespot about this . John only does the programming - the code.

weird it cut off the rest of my sentence . so i'll finish it here .

They have other people who do the design and Coloring,texturing,and level design .... john does not design the game itself.

They have other people who do the design and Coloring,texturing,and level design .... john does not design the game itself.briggsxxx