Modern Warfare 2 A Disappointment?

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#1 04dcarraher
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What Ive seen on E3 today it doesnt look that great. And whats with that radar/motion sensor thing on the gun too? And shooting that pistol like that on the snowmoblie?

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#2 Doom_HellKnight
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I couldn't see much wrong with it myself. The motion sensor is used as visibility is very poor, allowing the player to see the location of enemies.
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#3 555SSOO
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I think it's gonna be great.

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#4 Baranga
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I thought it was awesome, totally blew me away.

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#5 Artosa
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I find it funny how they stole the motion tracker design from aliens, these guys seriously need to get some originality.

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#6 Rattlesnake_8
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They announced they would be releasing TWO map packs as DLC.. since the game is months away.. just shows they will be purposely leaving out content to sell it later as DLC on consoles. Companies that do that sort of rubbish lose my respect completely. It'll just be another high quality single player campaign which is awesome the first time through.. but as usual it'll be incredibly short and have no replayabilty. So multilayer is where it'll really be.
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#7 Crispenz
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ok...if u thought the modern warfare 2 level was bad(it frekin rocked), than which games do u actualy lik?, because they must be first person shooting to a whole new level!

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#8 Baranga
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I find it funny how they stole the motion tracker design from aliens, these guys seriously need to get some originality.

Artosa

And what were they supposed to do? It's the most logical design possible.

I don't think it beeped though:P

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#9 weirjf
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[QUOTE="Artosa"]

I find it funny how they stole the motion tracker design from aliens, these guys seriously need to get some originality.

Baranga

And what were they supposed to do? It's the most logical design possible.

I don't think it beeped though:P

a rubber hand on a spring that pops out and points at the enemy

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#10 DDX2
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I was extremely disappointed that Call of Duty 4 went the special forces/spy route. Thats not a valid complaint here as this isnt even a Call of Duty game (...), but I will say that the trailer reminded me of every generic action movie i've seen in the past few years.

I'll pass on this one.

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#11 Artosa
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[QUOTE="Artosa"]

I find it funny how they stole the motion tracker design from aliens, these guys seriously need to get some originality.

Baranga

And what were they supposed to do? It's the most logical design possible.

I don't think it beeped though:P

Maybe respect other people work and not steal it, if i was james cameron i would be pissed off.

and yeah, this is generic action game 13434839184031920439

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#12 Baranga
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="Artosa"]

I find it funny how they stole the motion tracker design from aliens, these guys seriously need to get some originality.

Artosa

And what were they supposed to do? It's the most logical design possible.

I don't think it beeped though:P

Maybe respect other people work and not steal it, if i was james cameron i would be pissed off.

and yeah, this is generic action game 13434839184031920439

Yeah, Cameron hasn't ripped of anything:)

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#13 04dcarraher
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Well I have COD 4, idk the gameplay ive seen doesnt look that great, gameplay wise so far, Motion tracker and gangster pistol firing off the moblie come on
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#14 Artosa
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[QUOTE="Artosa"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

And what were they supposed to do? It's the most logical design possible.

I don't think it beeped though:P

Baranga

Maybe respect other people work and not steal it, if i was james cameron i would be pissed off.

and yeah, this is generic action game 13434839184031920439

Yeah, Cameron hasn't ripped of anything:)

He's alot more original than IW will ever be, IW even ripped off a scene from enemy at the gates.

plus the storyline in cod4 is oddly like rainbow six.

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#15 weirjf
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="Artosa"]

Maybe respect other people work and not steal it, if i was james cameron i would be pissed off.

and yeah, this is generic action game 13434839184031920439

Artosa

Yeah, Cameron hasn't ripped of anything:)

He's alot more original than IW will ever be, IW even ripped off a scene from enemy at the gates.

which was based on acts of a real person... Vassili Zaitsev

original ideas that end up being fun are hard to have... feel free to become a game developer and prove everyone wrong

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#16 Artosa
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[QUOTE="Artosa"]

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Yeah, Cameron hasn't ripped of anything:)

weirjf

He's alot more original than IW will ever be, IW even ripped off a scene from enemy at the gates.

which was based on acts of a real person... Vassili Zaitsev

original ideas that end up being fun are hard to have... feel free to become a game developer and prove everyone wrong

Enemy of the gates was a hollywood movie, not a true potrayal of vasilli zaitsev's life in stalingrad.

And MOD MAKERS have some great fresh ideas! mainstream game's like modern warfare are just cash in titles.

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#17 FelipeInside
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What Ive seen on E3 today it doesnt look that great. And whats with that radar/motion sensor thing on the gun too? And shooting that pistol like that on the snowmoblie?

04dcarraher
Ok.....? whatever....?
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#18 DDX2
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

What Ive seen on E3 today it doesnt look that great. And whats with that radar/motion sensor thing on the gun too? And shooting that pistol like that on the snowmoblie?

FelipeInside

Ok.....? whatever....?

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#19 weirjf
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[QUOTE="weirjf"]

[QUOTE="Artosa"]

He's alot more original than IW will ever be, IW even ripped off a scene from enemy at the gates.

Artosa

which was based on acts of a real person... Vassili Zaitsev

original ideas that end up being fun are hard to have... feel free to become a game developer and prove everyone wrong

Enemy of the gates was a hollywood movie, not a true potrayal of vasilli zaitsev's life in stalingrad.

And MOD MAKERS have some great fresh ideas! mainstream game's like modern warfare are just cash in titles.

I didn't say it was a true portrayal, I am saying the movie was made with his actions in mind, therefore it was not original... and therefore "ripped-off" as you like to put it... it isn't a difficult concept

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#20 Artosa
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[QUOTE="Artosa"]

[QUOTE="weirjf"]

which was based on acts of a real person... Vassili Zaitsev

original ideas that end up being fun are hard to have... feel free to become a game developer and prove everyone wrong

weirjf

Enemy of the gates was a hollywood movie, not a true potrayal of vasilli zaitsev's life in stalingrad.

And MOD MAKERS have some great fresh ideas! mainstream game's like modern warfare are just cash in titles.

I didn't say it was a true portrayal, I am saying the movie was made with his actions in mind, therefore it was not original... and therefore "ripped-off" as you like to put it... it isn't a difficult concept

there is a difference between being inspired by a story like enemy at the gates was and totally ripping off something like infinity ward is doing with the motion sensor, it even has the same dot movement style.

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#21 Baranga
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You mean it has the same radar dot moving sty1e as the, you know, radar?

I mean, geez, it's just a mini-radar in the movie too...

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#22 devious742
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it seemed very run n gun to me.. guy didnt even use cover that much.. all he did was run

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#23 Erik729
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I find it funny how they stole the motion tracker design from aliens, these guys seriously need to get some originality.

Artosa

They are definitely not the first. Many games have done it, including Halo (1), the radar design is exactly like aliens.

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#24 Crucifier
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I thought it was awesome, totally blew me away.

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this makes me sad for humanity. how could such a vague trailer that shows near nothing "blow you away"? i am anticipating the game and hope it will be good, but the trailer was meh at best
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#25 Erik729
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But what did I think of the game, you ask? Well, it looked exactly like the past half dozen Call of Duty games. Segment upond segments of pre-rendered scenes with simpleton shooting.

The first will always be the best.

Besides, the multiplayer is what everyone likes.

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#26 klusps
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I was extremely disappointed that Call of Duty 4 went the special forces/spy route. Thats not a valid complaint here as this isnt even a Call of Duty game (...), but I will say that the trailer reminded me of every generic action movie i've seen in the past few years.

I'll pass on this one.

DDX2

I think there would be some larger battles instead of all special force missions. If you ever seen the reveal gameplay trailer there would be some urban combat against rebels in Brazil(correct me if I'm wrong). Also I think Infinity Wards don't like spoiling the best levels of the game to people and save the best for people to experience themselves. In E3 07, they've only showed the All Ghillied Up mission, although it was amazing there were other epic levels that IW don't want to spoil.

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#27 Artosa
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

I thought it was awesome, totally blew me away.

Crucifier

this makes me sad for humanity. how could such a vague trailer that shows near nothing "blow you away"? i am anticipating the game and hope it will be good, but the trailer was meh at best

Welcome to modern mainstream gaming, where everyFPS is rehash after rehash, enjoy your stay:)

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#28 Baranga
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

I thought it was awesome, totally blew me away.

Crucifier

this makes me sad for humanity. how could such a vague trailer that shows near nothing "blow you away"? i am anticipating the game and hope it will be good, but the trailer was meh at best

It showed it's again like some sort of interactive movie. The 5 minutes of gameplay were really cool. Loved the atmosphere.

You don't need originality to make a delicious hamburger.

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#29 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

I thought it was awesome, totally blew me away.

Crucifier
this makes me sad for humanity. how could such a vague trailer that shows near nothing "blow you away"? i am anticipating the game and hope it will be good, but the trailer was meh at best

Really? sad for humanity? Maybe some of us don't expect as much from a game as you.... maybe for some of us as long as the game is fun and we have a good time it's good enough...
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#30 sub-raid
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They are going to release it on the consoles too. They took the best exclusive series for the pc. why don't they release ETW too and sims 3 and all the rpg...
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#31 warmaster670
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I find it funny how they stole the motion tracker design from aliens, these guys seriously need to get some originality.

Artosa

by that logic nothing is orginal.

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#32 Jinroh_basic
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this thread, along with the throng of haters who already call it a disappointment because of a trailer, cannot change the fact that MW2 will sell a million copies within the first day of its release and 3 mil within the first week. i will be one of those people. have fun with the hating, boyz. ;)

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#33 FelipeInside
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this thread, along with the throng of haters who already call it a disappointment because of a trailer, cannot change the fact that MW2 will sell a million copies within the first day of its release and 3 mil within the first week. i will be one of those people. have fun with the hating, boyz. ;)

Jinroh_basic
Exactly....Call of Duty series has reach an excellence of quality, action, cinematic and gameplay both in SP and MP that not many FPS can even dream about... Hate it all you want haters.... COD is still the BEST war game (past and modern) ever created....
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#34 aliblabla2007
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No.

I have zero hype for the game, so naturally I can't be dissapointed. ;)

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#35 crapdog
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did they show any MP gameplay ? cause jugding any cod game on a SP trailer is pointless, SP lasts for one weekend anyway. cod is all about multiplayer

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#36 FelipeInside
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did they show any MP gameplay ? cause jugding any cod game on a SP trailer is pointless, SP lasts for one weekend anyway. cod is all about multiplayer

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But you can't deny....what a hell of a weekend that is.....
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#37 HaloEleven
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From what i've seen, MW2 looks terrible.

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#38 FelipeInside
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From what i've seen, MW2 looks terrible.

HaloEleven
Why is that.... I looked at the trailer and it has graphics and movement that are nearly life-like. Also, the gameplay in the ice was great...a bit of sneak and action, yeah yeah, they copied the motion sensor from Aliens...so what. If it's even half of what MW1 produced....it will be great...like all CODs...
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#39 Artosa
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[QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"]COD is still the BEST war game (past and modern) ever created....FelipeInside

No, just no, that is an insult to the more creative developers out there.

hidden and dangerous 2 is a better quality game and more enjoyablethan the ww2 cods

red orchestra is better quality and more enjoyablethan the ww2 cods

combat mission, il2 sturmovik, brothers in arms, blitzkrieg, men of war etcall these are better.

Modern war:

Operation flashpoint is a more enjoyableand better qualitygame than cod 4

rainbow six raven shield is a better game than cod4 will ever be.

arma is a better game with much more replay value and better gameplaythan cod4

etc etc etc

COD4 and COD2 will never be as good as these games.

and i want to play aGAME not an interactive movie, this series has become tripe, thegreatestcod was united offensive, because the gameplay wasnt actually dumbed down.

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#40 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"]COD is still the BEST war game (past and modern) ever created....Artosa

No, just no, that is an insult to the more creative developers out there.

hidden and dangerous 2 is a better quality game and more enjoyablethan the ww2 cods

red orchestra is better quality and more enjoyablethan the ww2 cods

combat mission, il2 sturmovik, brothers in arms, blitzkrieg, men of war etcall these are better.

Modern war:

Operation flashpoint is a more enjoyableand better qualitygame than cod 4

rainbow six raven shield is a better game than cod4 will ever be.

arma is a better game with much more replay value and better gameplaythan cod4

etc etc etc

COD4 and COD2 will never be as good as these games.

and i want to play aGAME not an interactive movie, this series has become tripe, thegreatestcod was united offensive, because the gameplay wasnt actually dumbed down.

Ok...those games are great....although I haven't played some of them. Let me please rephrase: COD is still the BEST action intense cinematic War experience you can get in a PC game....
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#41 Artosa
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[QUOTE="Artosa"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Jinroh_basic"]COD is still the BEST war game (past and modern) ever created....FelipeInside

No, just no, that is an insult to the more creative developers out there.

hidden and dangerous 2 is a better quality game and more enjoyablethan the ww2 cods

red orchestra is better quality and more enjoyablethan the ww2 cods

combat mission, il2 sturmovik, brothers in arms, blitzkrieg, men of war etcall these are better.

Modern war:

Operation flashpoint is a more enjoyableand better qualitygame than cod 4

rainbow six raven shield is a better game than cod4 will ever be.

arma is a better game with much more replay value and better gameplaythan cod4

etc etc etc

COD4 and COD2 will never be as good as these games.

and i want to play aGAME not an interactive movie, this series has become tripe, thegreatestcod was united offensive, because the gameplay wasnt actually dumbed down.

Ok...those games are great....although I haven't played some of them. Let me please rephrase: COD is still the BEST action intense cinematic War experience you can get in a PC game....

yeah, cinematic, that is all though, nothing else.

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#42 FelipeInside
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Artosa"]

No, just no, that is an insult to the more creative developers out there.

hidden and dangerous 2 is a better quality game and more enjoyablethan the ww2 cods

red orchestra is better quality and more enjoyablethan the ww2 cods

combat mission, il2 sturmovik, brothers in arms, blitzkrieg, men of war etcall these are better.

Modern war:

Operation flashpoint is a more enjoyableand better qualitygame than cod 4

rainbow six raven shield is a better game than cod4 will ever be.

arma is a better game with much more replay value and better gameplaythan cod4

etc etc etc

COD4 and COD2 will never be as good as these games.

and i want to play aGAME not an interactive movie, this series has become tripe, thegreatestcod was united offensive, because the gameplay wasnt actually dumbed down.

Artosa

Ok...those games are great....although I haven't played some of them. Let me please rephrase: COD is still the BEST action intense cinematic War experience you can get in a PC game....

yeah, cinematic, that is all though, nothing else.

I though gameplay was intense.... weapons felt good. Yeah yeah, it had respawn points and all that. Also...awesome MP for replay value...
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#43 Artosa
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[QUOTE="Artosa"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Ok...those games are great....although I haven't played some of them. Let me please rephrase: COD is still the BEST action intense cinematic War experience you can get in a PC game....FelipeInside

yeah, cinematic, that is all though, nothing else.

I though gameplay was intense.... weapons felt good. Yeah yeah, it had respawn points and all that. Also...awesome MP for replay value...

cod1 got weapons good, after cod1 no.

There is no recoil on the guy now and they are too easy to use, dumbed down is a good term for it, and the guns in cod4 sound like pea shooters.

i don't find the repetitiveness of cod4's online fun, and unlocks and ranks are nothing but a gimmick

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#44 contaminated
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looks like more of the same gonna be a good solid game but nothing great or different.
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#45 Baranga
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unlocks and ranks are nothing but a gimmick

Artosa

That's like saying gaining levels in a RPG is a gimmick.

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#46 IMaBIOHAZARD
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[QUOTE="Artosa"]

unlocks and ranks are nothing but a gimmick

Baranga

That's like saying gaining levels in a RPG is a gimmick.

precisely; it would be totally gimmicky if they didn't impliment it in a very fluid and genuinely useful way, but they pulled it off perfectly. I relish the fact that there will be some (hopefully a lot) new perks and unlocks, especially with the new Special Forces mode and better weapons. It looks pretty darn awesome.
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#47 RedxSniper
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I think the gameplay was awseome. It def. blew me away. The only thing that made me go "COMEON..........." was when he spent like a minute climbing at the beginning lol.
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#48 Artosa
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[QUOTE="Artosa"]

unlocks and ranks are nothing but a gimmick

Baranga

That's like saying gaining levels in a RPG is a gimmick.

That is where they belong though, they are fine in rpg's, but it is just grinding in cod4.

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#49 Agent_Kaliaver
Member since 2004 • 4722 Posts
They announced they would be releasing TWO map packs as DLC.. since the game is months away.. just shows they will be purposely leaving out content to sell it later as DLC on consoles. Companies that do that sort of rubbish lose my respect completely. It'll just be another high quality single player campaign which is awesome the first time through.. but as usual it'll be incredibly short and have no replayabilty. So multilayer is where it'll really be.Rattlesnake_8
Probably not the developers choice. I doubt many developers would want to screw over their fans, but i am sure as hell publishers (Activision.... which i am not huge fans off... thank you for milking everything) do not exactly care. They know people will pay for it and publishers just want the money so when people will pay publishers will screw us over. Also the demo seemed more meh than anything. I was a i've been there done that kind of game. It is basically what i think happened to Halo. Halo just became a game that we have already seen and have already played. CoD4 was brand new. We had never had a modern warfare CoD yet and it looked really good. Now though it seems like i've already seen the game they just showed off. It really didn't excite me like i was expecting it to.
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#50 jbisco25
Member since 2004 • 976 Posts

I thought it was awesome, totally blew me away.

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Me too i thought it was one of the best games on show, that and GOW 3.