Is EA "FORCING" you to buy their next games?

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#1 Edited by PredatorRules (12281 posts) -

So I picked up BF1 for 5$ on this black friday sale, I remember having no issues what so ever running it on the open beta on high graphics back than with my 280/290.

Playing on single player? easy, ultra settings set.

Playing on multiplayer? I'm having 20fps at times on lowest settings.

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_live/comments/90w8m9/acknowledge_and_fix_bf1_performance_issues_on_pc/

Many players complain that they had the game running perfectly fine back then few months ago, while right now it works like crap.

Are EA trying to do the Apple/Samsung trick where they make their previous products worse so you go and buy their latest ones?

If so that was my last coin spend on EA and their games, don't get me wrong BF1 is as much as fun as BF4 which I own with all it's season pass, but I do not tolerate greedy corporate tricks.

Quick Update: turned on MSI afterburner to see if something is bottlenecking it, looks like it makes my CPU go 100% at times which results in the fps drops. i5 4690, looks like i'm in need of some i7 4770/4790 or a brand new i5 9600. Sounds like their latest patches were not CPU optimized

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#2 Edited by Vaidream45 (1412 posts) -

I wouldn’t put it past them. I stopped giving them money years ago. I have zero trust or confidence in them.

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#3 Posted by hundreddeaths (4 posts) -

EA is a corrupt company, that's all i have to say.

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#4 Posted by BassMan (9419 posts) -

BF1 runs great for me just like all my BF games...

BF1 and BFV are digital copies. :)

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#5 Posted by MisterVulpes (653 posts) -

With the decline of BioWare, EA now has nothing I’m interested in.

Good riddance.

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#6 Edited by Gaming-Planet (19648 posts) -

I was going to buy BF 1 this during black friday but then I remembered how shitty EA has become. I also heard that BF1 and BFV don't utilize 4 cores/4 threads all that well, regardless of IPC.

I feel guilty just supporting them. With that said, BF4 is still a great game.

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#7 Edited by PredatorRules (12281 posts) -

@BassMan: CPU: i9 9900K - yeah I have a friend with 8086K it runs at 100fps on his rig as well

This game is a CPU hog right now with their crappy updates, many people complain about the drops, you'll have to own some beasty old gen CPU or brand new i5 in order to have no drops.

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#8 Edited by BassMan (9419 posts) -

@PredatorRules: BF1 ran good on my old i7 7700K as well. It struggles (get stutters in MP) on my laptop with i7 7700HQ, but most laptops have shit CPUs though.

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#9 Posted by PfizersaurusRex (1185 posts) -

BF1 was playable on my old FX-6300 with 8GB RAM, on most 64 player maps fps would drop to something like 40s. That i5 of yours is helluva lot better than the crappy FX, so it makes perfect sense to me. I remember when BF1 was released they changed the BF4 UI in the way that starting the game wouldn't open up the battlelog, but get you in the new main menu. And once you manually got into battlelog you would see all your favourite servers were deleted. And that was the end of my clan server which had been very popular prior to the update. Mods put a lot of their time and effort to manage it and they just crapped at it.

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#10 Edited by Ezekiel43 (718 posts) -

@BassMan said:

BF1 runs great for me just like all my BF games...

BF1 and BFV are digital copies. :)

BF2 doesn't run for you at all. EA shut it down and then shut down the fanmade version. My favorite game in the series can't be played anymore.

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#11 Posted by BassMan (9419 posts) -

@ezekiel43:

https://www.bf2hub.com/home/

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#12 Edited by PredatorRules (12281 posts) -

@BassMan: I saw someone on reddit with 1080Ti and i7 8800K which also complain about the drops...

IDK what they've done but it's random I guess.

All I do know is that when my cores go up to 100% it gets choked and the frame drops start

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#13 Edited by Todddow (889 posts) -

Tried playing my bro in law's BF1 when it came out. Felt like the same old EA and same old FPS game as almost every other one the past 20 years. Wouldn't play it again for free.

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#14 Edited by lucidique (542 posts) -
@PredatorRules said:

@BassMan: I saw someone on reddit with 1080Ti and i7 8800K which also complain about the drops...

IDK what they've done but it's random I guess.

All I do know is that when my cores go up to 100% it gets choked and the frame drops start

I ran BF1 on a 5th gen i5 with 8gb of ram and a 2GB GTX 960 and the game caused me no issue.

This has got to either be a driver issue on your end, or some sort of directx library thingie you may have to update.

As much as i dislike EA / Dice, this is not something they do, at least based on almost two decades of Battlefield titles.

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#15 Posted by mrbojangles25 (42325 posts) -

I'm sorry, but are you honestly asking if EA is deliberately sabotaging their previous games to get people to stay "current" and buy new ones?

I kind of want to call you crazy for thinking this, if you indeed are, but at the same time...I wouldn't put it past EA to do this haha

@PredatorRules said:

@BassMan: I saw someone on reddit with 1080Ti and i7 8800K which also complain about the drops...

IDK what they've done but it's random I guess.

All I do know is that when my cores go up to 100% it gets choked and the frame drops start

I would say it's probably a bad update.

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#16 Edited by Yams1980 (3011 posts) -

The only EA game i play often is Sims 4. Just god awful cpu optimization in the game.

The framerate is all over the place, i'll be getting over 100fps, then the game will chug badly and dip into 20fps range. Even when the game is paused. Its actually worse since the newest Get Famous update/expansion. Makes me wonder if updating their python scripting engine has put the cpu into even worse conditions... for a game that only uses 2 threads, it doesn't have room to spare for poorly routed gaming code.

Thats how bad EA is developing games, half the time these guys haven't a clue what they are doing. It doesn't surprise me that a a game with variable conditions like multiplayer in Battlefield causes crazy framerate drops, and not on the gpu end either. If a game isn't streamlined enough, it just makes the gpu sit around waiting for the frames to get sent to it.

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#17 Posted by PredatorRules (12281 posts) -

@lucidique: All other games run just fine no drops, hard to believe It's coming from my side when lots of other people report on the same issue.

Are you on singleplayer? because it's running 60fps all time on ultra over there.

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#18 Edited by PredatorRules (12281 posts) -

@Yams1980: Bad coding, that's what my friend said about it too.

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#19 Posted by DoroG1995 (2310 posts) -
@ezekiel43 said:
@BassMan said:

BF1 runs great for me just like all my BF games...

BF1 and BFV are digital copies. :)

BF2 doesn't run for you at all. EA shut it down and then shut down the fanmade version. My favorite game in the series can't be played anymore.

People still play it on Gameranger.

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#20 Posted by lucidique (542 posts) -

@PredatorRules said:

@lucidique: All other games run just fine no drops, hard to believe It's coming from my side when lots of other people report on the same issue.

Are you on singleplayer? because it's running 60fps all time on ultra over there.

I was running fine in both modes.

I'm not saying it's just you. I believe you a 100% when you say it may be affecting many users.

However if the game is running fine for a lot of users, it means the ones affected must have a common issue that is not the game, else everybody would be having these issues.

If the problem is not hardware, since you can play many other games just fine, it has to be software in nature.

I've had issues with certain games fixed by manually updating directx dependant redistributables. Assuming you are running a recent version of Windows, this can be done by manually selecting each redistributable under add/remove programs in the control panel.

When selecting an item, you can either uninstall or attempt a repair. That did the trick for me many times.

For reference purposes, I popped Battlefield 1 open yesterday on my current rig and the game appears to still play fine.

I am playing on :

Core i7 8700k / 32GB RAM / GTX 1070 8GB / NVMe storage.

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#21 Posted by R4gn4r0k (29473 posts) -
@PredatorRules said:

@lucidique: All other games run just fine no drops, hard to believe It's coming from my side when lots of other people report on the same issue.

Are you on singleplayer? because it's running 60fps all time on ultra over there.

Try out some smaller modes online (domination, frontlines) and see if it has the same issues as with bigger game modes (conquest, operations)

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#22 Posted by PredatorRules (12281 posts) -
@R4gn4r0k said:
@PredatorRules said:

@lucidique: All other games run just fine no drops, hard to believe It's coming from my side when lots of other people report on the same issue.

Are you on singleplayer? because it's running 60fps all time on ultra over there.

Try out some smaller modes online (domination, frontlines) and see if it has the same issues as with bigger game modes (conquest, operations)

Yeah smaller maps work better but then again it's BF, why would I buy BF to play on small maps? conquest and operations are the most fun to play

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#23 Posted by R4gn4r0k (29473 posts) -

@PredatorRules said:

Yeah smaller maps work better but then again it's BF, why would I buy BF to play on small maps? conquest and operations are the most fun to play

Not in BF1, I don't like conquest in BF 1 at all, it's a massive zerg rush :p

Operations and Frontlines are the two modes this game is made for :)

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#24 Edited by TryIt (12782 posts) -

@BassMan said:

BF1 runs great for me just like all my BF games...

BF1 and BFV are digital copies. :)

sweet mother of god dude..do you ever want something different from your game play?

never get bored with that?

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#25 Posted by BassMan (9419 posts) -

@tryit: I play lots of different games, but I never get bored of Battlefield. :)

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#26 Posted by TryIt (12782 posts) -

@BassMan said:

@tryit: I play lots of different games, but I never get bored of Battlefield. :)

f me...

I played 1942 back when it came out years ago, played a few other FPS during that time but eventually....jesus H!

ok fair enough I guess

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#27 Posted by lucidique (542 posts) -
@tryit said:
@BassMan said:

@tryit: I play lots of different games, but I never get bored of Battlefield. :)

f me...

I played 1942 back when it came out years ago, played a few other FPS during that time but eventually....jesus H!

ok fair enough I guess

For what it's worth, Dice was always able to introduce enough variety in gameplay mechanics, or additional systems to be tinkered with, with each new opus.

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#28 Edited by TryIt (12782 posts) -

@lucidique said:
@tryit said:
@BassMan said:

@tryit: I play lots of different games, but I never get bored of Battlefield. :)

f me...

I played 1942 back when it came out years ago, played a few other FPS during that time but eventually....jesus H!

ok fair enough I guess

For what it's worth, Dice was always able to introduce enough variety in gameplay mechanics, or additional systems to be tinkered with, with each new opus.

horseshit

by that I mean 'enough variety'

that part of your statement is crap. give an example that doesnt make me laugh

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#29 Posted by lucidique (542 posts) -

@tryit said:
@lucidique said:
@tryit said:
@BassMan said:

@tryit: I play lots of different games, but I never get bored of Battlefield. :)

f me...

I played 1942 back when it came out years ago, played a few other FPS during that time but eventually....jesus H!

ok fair enough I guess

For what it's worth, Dice was always able to introduce enough variety in gameplay mechanics, or additional systems to be tinkered with, with each new opus.

horseshit

by that I mean 'enough variety'

that part of your statement is crap. give an example that doesnt make me laugh

Knowing nothing about what you may consider to be enough variety, I won't waste my time humoring you, as it would be an exercise in futility.

Considering they have been going at it for close to two decades, I think my statement stands.

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#30 Edited by TryIt (12782 posts) -

@lucidique said:
@tryit said:
@lucidique said:
@tryit said:

f me...

I played 1942 back when it came out years ago, played a few other FPS during that time but eventually....jesus H!

ok fair enough I guess

For what it's worth, Dice was always able to introduce enough variety in gameplay mechanics, or additional systems to be tinkered with, with each new opus.

horseshit

by that I mean 'enough variety'

that part of your statement is crap. give an example that doesnt make me laugh

Knowing nothing about what you may consider to be enough variety, I won't waste my time humoring you, as it would be an exercise in futility.

Considering they have been going at it for close to two decades, I think my statement stands.

your unwillingness to even provide an example tells me everything I need to know, its horseshit.

your statement absolutely positively does NOT stand because they have been making the same game over and over again for a decade.

there is only so much you can do to a FPS only game, its just the physics of reality

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#31 Posted by 04dcarraher (23076 posts) -

Four threads isnt enough for all the newer BF1 expansions.

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#32 Posted by PredatorRules (12281 posts) -
@tryit said:
@BassMan said:

BF1 runs great for me just like all my BF games...

BF1 and BFV are digital copies. :)

sweet mother of god dude..do you ever want something different from your game play?

never get bored with that?

Some people buy the new Fifa every year, imagine playing the same game for years (any WoW veterans? lol)