I can officially say that WOW is a bad game

Never played it before today... i finally used those free for ten days things... but ive seen it before and i always thought that the game looked horrible. and today i can finally say that it is, heres why

-You have to pay for it

-free version isnt really a trial, just a demo

-really demanding graphics for no visuals

-too much useless space

-quest items are non-existent

-level up way too slow

-enemies are way too strong

haha really? Level up is to slow and enemies to strong? I dont see any of your points as valid. Try again.AutoPilotOn

-i played for 3 hours and i was a level 3... (too slow)

-all the enemies were 6+ (too stong)

they all are valid points

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]haha really? Level up is to slow and enemies to strong? I dont see any of your points as valid. Try again.SuperToshibaMan

-i played for 3 hours and i was a level 3... (too slow)

-all the enemies were 6+ (too stong)

they all are valid points

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[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]haha really? Level up is to slow and enemies to strong? I dont see any of your points as valid. Try again.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

-i played for 3 hours and i was a level 3... (too slow)

-all the enemies were 6+ (too stong)

they all are valid points

I dont know what game we was playing but it wasn't WoW or he wandered out of the starting areas. Even my GFs 11 year old brother made it to level 78 now in 3 months of casual playing.

Trust me I have started hundreds of different characters. They are all level 1,2,3,4 ect in the starting areas. Ussually it takes about 15 min or so to get to level 3.

WoW is a bad game due to the social repercussions when people find out you play......

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[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]haha really? Level up is to slow and enemies to strong? I dont see any of your points as valid. Try again.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

-i played for 3 hours and i was a level 3... (too slow)

-all the enemies were 6+ (too stong)

they all are valid points

it told me looke for fel moss... looked everywhere didnt find it went around to other cities, did one quest, got my ass kicked went back looking for fel moss, couldnt find it quit

Which was 3 of my points, (too much useless space, too strong enemies, too slow level up)

oh ya and the ghost idea... who ever though of that... he has to be the smartest guy on earth

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[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]haha really? Level up is to slow and enemies to strong? I dont see any of your points as valid. Try again.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

-i played for 3 hours and i was a level 3... (too slow)

-all the enemies were 6+ (too stong)

they all are valid points

-You have to pay for it - get a job or a better one

-free version isnt really a trial, just a demo - nice, you figured it out

-really demanding graphics for no visuals - really bad PC then

-too much useless space - you should know because you advanced to level 3 in 3 hours while playing the trial

-quest items are non-existent - because you reached level 3 in 3 hours, they don't give you hundreds of quest items for such feats

-level up way too slow - because it took you 3 hours to reach level 3

-enemies are way too strong - because it took you 3 hours to reach level 3

Sounds like you're not very good at the gameSpellingiscool

is there a difficulty setting??

and its kinda hard to be good at the game when your only doing 5-7 damage and they are doing a minimum of 10

If you think leveling is slow now, you would have lasted maybe 2 minutes in Vanilla WoW. If anything WoW is FAR too easy now.

Not know how to play the game doesn't make the game bad. Going to a forums to complain about how bad the game is because you can't play instead of learning how to play makes you a bad gamer though. AutoPilotOn

i know how to play... click click click click and use wasd... not that hard there dude

[QUOTE="Spellingiscool"]Sounds like you're not very good at the gameSuperToshibaMan

is there a difficulty setting??

and its kinda hard to be good at the game when your only doing 5-7 damage and they are doing a minimum of 10

If you think leveling is slow now, you would have lasted maybe 2 minutes in Vanilla WoW. If anything WoW is FAR too easy now.

jm92590

Really they cut down what you need to level for at least the first 70 levels so much it goes back quick now. Plus they took out alot of quests that had you traveling all over the world and they added new graveyards and flight paths to make travel easier. I just have to LOL at anyone who says its to hard now. Like I said my GFs 11 year old bro is almost lvl 80 on one character and lvl 70something on another and he just runs around playing casually.

I don't see how anyone can come out and say that a game is downright bad when it has seen the success that World of Warcraft has. It's not like we're referring to a poorly made game that scored 1.0/10 on metacritic or something.

I've played WOW for over a year, and in the first year, it was incredibly fun. I had a blast. I could not compare the fun factor of WOW to any other SP game or MMO because it was completely unique for me. Now, I could understand if you said that "WoW just isn't for me." That would sound more appropriate. All your arguments are weak or invalid. There are many pay to play MMO's out there.

Graphics aren't demanding at all. It's one of the most well-optimized games out there even with so much going on like big raids. The visuals hold up well and it seems that Blizzard has touched the game up ever so slightly over the past 3-4 years to keep the game up to date, sorta say. WoW's art style is the shining point, not realistic graphics you find in other games like Crysis. I wouldn't want WoW to look realistic like Crysis or Guild Wars 2. That's what makes WoW so unique. I happen to like Blizzard's art style with games. I wouldn't want it any other way.

Useless space? WoW has so many points of interests, cities, landmarks and npc's populating almost every part of the game.

Enemies are not too strong at all. If you're complaining now, wait till you hit raids in dungeons. You'll probably cry over Ventrillo at your guldies. Leveling up feels quite the same as other games such as Age of Conan, Rift, Warhammer Online, except for Guild Wars which isn't much of an MMO to begin with. I think I level much faster in WOW though, but that's because I know my way around the game enough to do so, ie quests, npcs, locations.

The bottom line is, all you did was play a trial... and you didn't even play it up to 7 days time. So then you come up with this miraculous conclusion that the game is bad, based on no experience and merits. You sir, are the equivalent of a troll. I must say it. At least play the game until the trial time runs out then give a proper assessment of World of Warcraft. I no longer play the game myself, but I wouldn't go around bashing a game without knowing full well what it's truly about.

My comments aren't meant to imply you're an a-hole, but please be well-informed about a game before you call it bad. And if you're going to call a game bad, at least be prepared to back it up with valid arguments.

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]Not know how to play the game doesn't make the game bad. Going to a forums to complain about how bad the game is because you can't play instead of learning how to play makes you a bad gamer though. SuperToshibaMan

i know how to play... click click click click and use wasd... not that hard there dude

I won't even say anything else. Your making this to easy and I dont want to be mean. Have a good day sir.

Never played it before today... i finally used those free for ten days things... but ive seen it before and i always thought that the game looked horrible. and today i can finally say that it is, heres why

-You have to pay for it

-free version isnt really a trial, just a demo

-really demanding graphics for no visuals

-too much useless space

-quest items are non-existent

-level up way too slow

-enemies are way too strong

SuperToshibaMan

So you can judge a WHOLE MMO by playing for 10 days?

That alone makes your whole post INVALID.

A troll is in our mist...

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Never played it before today... i finally used those free for ten days things... but ive seen it before and i always thought that the game looked horrible. and today i can finally say that it is, heres why

-You have to pay for it

-free version isnt really a trial, just a demo

-really demanding graphics for no visuals

-too much useless space

-quest items are non-existent

-level up way too slow

-enemies are way too strong

FelipeInside

So you can judge a WHOLE MMO by playing for 10 days?

That alone makes your whole post INVALID.

you can judge a game by the first 10 minutes...

but ill try to lower the difficulty and then try it!

What I'm reading is that you got confused on a quest, wandered into an area where you weren't supposed to be (i.e. you left the starting zone), got killed because you wandered, and rage quit.

There is no way that you were facing level 6 enemies in the starting zone. The max level they get to is level 5 and you should be 5 or 6 by the time you finish all the quests in the starter area.

I can understand you being new and now knowing exactly what to do, but they really have made it so easy theses days that its hard to excuse your problems. They highlight the areas now on the map where you quest items drop, the items you need either sparkle on the ground, or the enemies are highlighted if they are the ones you are supposed to kill. If you still somehow get confused, there are lots of websites out there which will describe and show maps for every single quest in the game.

The rest of your reasons are just silly (i mean graphically demanding? seriously?). Should give it another try because you aren't going to find an easier casual-friendly mainstream MMO out there.

What I'm reading is that you got confused on a quest, wandered into an area where you weren't supposed to be (i.e. you left the starting zone), got killed because you wandered, and rage quit.

There is no way that you were facing level 6 enemies in the starting zone. The max level they get to is level 5 and you should be 5 or 6 by the time you finish all the quests in the starter area.

I can understand you being new and now knowing exactly what to do, but they really have made it so easy theses days that its hard to excuse your problems. They highlight the areas now on the map where you quest items drop, the items you need either sparkle on the ground, or the enemies are highlighted if they are the ones you are supposed to kill. If you still somehow get confused, there are lots of websites out there which will describe and show maps for every single quest in the game.

The rest of your reasons are just silly (i mean graphically demanding? seriously?). Should give it another try because you aren't going to find an easier casual-friendly mainstream MMO out there.

mkaliaz

ya i figured out the whole map thing and shows you the area of where the moss is supposed to be but i couldnt find any... thats why i started walking around trying to skip it but all the enemies are way too hard and they are too fast so you cant run away

You know WoW isn't for everyone. Some people dont like it or MMORPGs at all. There is no difficultly setting its a MMORPG. The closest thign to choosing how hard the game is it just what raids you do or if you have more people help you on a quest . AutoPilotOn

Thats true, maybe MMO isnt for him. I certainly wouldn't recommend someone play an MMO unless you are sure about it and can play it in moderation. My suggestion though is that if he does want to play an MMO, its really not going to get any easier than WoW (especially for leveling).

Once you understand the basics, it gets a lot easier. I played it back around the original launch about 6.5 years ago and did get a little overwhelmed myself with how much there was to understand (never touched an MMO before and hardly any RPG of any kind). So, I can relate to the frustration.

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Never played it before today... i finally used those free for ten days things... but ive seen it before and i always thought that the game looked horrible. and today i can finally say that it is, heres why

-You have to pay for it

-free version isnt really a trial, just a demo

-really demanding graphics for no visuals

-too much useless space

-quest items are non-existent

-level up way too slow

-enemies are way too strong

SuperToshibaMan

So you can judge a WHOLE MMO by playing for 10 days?

That alone makes your whole post INVALID.

you can judge a game by the first 10 minutes...

but ill try to lower the difficulty and then try it!

If you had trouble in the starting zones then obviously MMOs are not for you.... but judging a huge game like an MMO with 10 minutes gameplay makes your post invalid. You can say it's not your thing, or your talents aren't good enough even for the starter zones....but not judge the whole thing as BAD...

Never played it before today... i finally used those free for ten days things... but ive seen it before and i always thought that the game looked horrible. and today i can finally say that it is, heres why

-You have to pay for it

-free version isnt really a trial, just a demo

-really demanding graphics for no visuals

-too much useless space

-quest items are non-existent

-level up way too slow

-enemies are way too strong

SuperToshibaMan

Wow is the most accessable MMO ever created there is really no paid MMO that is truly this easy.

hahahahahaha

It only takes one hour to reach lvl 10.

This thread fails.

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Never played it before today... i finally used those free for ten days things... but ive seen it before and i always thought that the game looked horrible. and today i can finally say that it is, heres why

-You have to pay for it

-free version isnt really a trial, just a demo

-really demanding graphics for no visuals

-too much useless space

-quest items are non-existent

-level up way too slow

-enemies are way too strong

mirgamer

if you say this is easy...

tried again, found the moss, you have to stop COMPLETELY over the dead bodies before you can search them.... dumb

and now im in some spider cave and cant find a vile. i give up, cant find it... not a fun game, i shouldve played it before so i didnt waste 5 hours of downloading the game

people just play runescape, its the exact same thing except easier and free

Never played it before today... i finally used those free for ten days things... but ive seen it before and i always thought that the game looked horrible. and today i can finally say that it is, heres why

-You have to pay for it

and your point is? it gives more value per $15 than any other game

-free version isnt really a trial, just a demo

so you haven't experienced 99% of the content in wow?

-really demanding graphics for no visuals

set your graphics high and go to stormwind or deepholm or something. hell gilneas looks amazing

-too much useless space

there is no useless places in the 1-10 zones

-quest items are non-existent

lolwut

-level up way too slow

QQ it takes 50 hours plus or minus some to get to 85

-enemies are way too strong

only if you are fighting mobs 4 levels higher than you and you can't land a hit on them, and none of the starting zones will allow this to occur if you follow quest hubs

SuperToshibaMan

Y u mad tho?

It's a joke. It has to be.

haha really? Level up is to slow and enemies to strong? I dont see any of your points as valid. Try again.AutoPilotOn

Agreed...the game is rediculously simple. He would have hated Vanilla :). I remember being like level 12 and running into zones by mistake and getting MURDERED without the chance to flee. I stopped playing because the game became too simplistic.

[QUOTE="Vuurk"]Obvious troll. Stop feeding him please. =PSuperToshibaMan

indeed... im a troll now, i already uninstalled the whole game and deleted all files

the game was horrible,

5 hours and i was a level 5

you guys are smoking crack on saying its easy (unless you were with other people then it was pretty easy but you also dont always the xp)

just way too big, one area was like the size of oblivion (actually a good RPG)

You sir make no sense. The game sucks because its to big? With all the quest helpers and everything anymore its cakewalk. If you wanted it hard try playing when it first came out. You sir fail, its about as easy as a MMORPG gets. If anything it caters more to the inexpenced especially at the begining. You didn't know what you were doing that is for sure. You must not of read the quests or had a quest helper that littery shows you on the map where exactly to go.

Never played it before today... i finally used those free for ten days things... but ive seen it before and i always thought that the game looked horrible. and today i can finally say that it is, heres why

-You have to pay for it

-free version isnt really a trial, just a demo

-really demanding graphics for no visuals

-too much useless space

-quest items are non-existent

-level up way too slow

-enemies are way too strong

SuperToshibaMan

Everyone is entitled to opinions, but literally every single one of those points makes no sense at all...

1) You have to pay for any MMO, whether membership, microtransactions, or pay with clutter on your screen from advertisements paying for you...

2) Um, the trial is the full game, literally... You can do anything up to level 18 other than use the AH or trade with other players...

3) Demanding graphics? I can run this game on my freaking single core 1.1ghz netbook, with 1gb of ram and a GMA950 gpu... If that is demanding then I don't even know what Crysis is.

4) Too much useless space? WTF does this even mean? It is an MMO, it is supposed to be a "world"...

5) Quest items are non-existent? What does this even mean?

6) Level up too slow? DUDE... You can get from level 1 to 85 in like 2 or 3 days of playing time now... And even less if you are in a guild, have heirlooms, and are actually speeding through stuff...

7) Enemies are too strong? What did you like walk out of the starting zone at level 1 and fight a level 10? No crap a higher level enemy will kill you.

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]haha really? Level up is to slow and enemies to strong? I dont see any of your points as valid. Try again.Jetset314

Agreed...the game is rediculously simple. He would have hated Vanilla :). I remember being like level 12 and running into zones by mistake and getting MURDERED without the chance to flee. I stopped playing because the game became too simplistic.

you had the murdered part right... and simple yes, easy? nope

[QUOTE="Vuurk"]Obvious troll. Stop feeding him please. =PSuperToshibaMan

indeed... im a troll now, i already uninstalled the whole game and deleted all files

the game was horrible,

5 hours and i was a level 5

you guys are smoking crack on saying its easy (unless you were with other people then it was pretty easy but you also dont always the xp)

just way too big, one area was like the size of oblivion (actually a good RPG)

Honestly if it took you that long, you have issues... Level 1-5 is the BASE of starting areas that are like the size of a football field and designed to take 5 minutes and introduce the race to you...

Guys he's obviously trolling. Getting to level five should take a matter of minutes. I remember when my friend played WoW for the first time. He had never played an mmo before and was confused at first. The next day he was almost level twenty.

So there are 2 options here:

1: He's trolling.

2: He is genuinely slow and un-able to grasp the concept of the game.

If it's the second one we should all stop giving him a hard time, it's just mean.

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[QUOTE="Vuurk"]Obvious troll. Stop feeding him please. =PAutoPilotOn

indeed... im a troll now, i already uninstalled the whole game and deleted all files

the game was horrible,

5 hours and i was a level 5

you guys are smoking crack on saying its easy (unless you were with other people then it was pretty easy but you also dont always the xp)

just way too big, one area was like the size of oblivion (actually a good RPG)

You sir make no sense. The game sucks because its to big? With all the quest helpers and everything anymore its cakewalk. If you wanted it hard try playing when it first came out. You sir fail, its about as easy as a MMORPG gets. If anything it caters more to the inexpenced especially at the begining. You didn't know what you were doing that is for sure. You must not of read the quests or had a quest helper that littery shows you on the map where exactly to go.

-no the main reason why it sucked was cuz it was just way too hard, then when you died your a ghost and have to travel the long way back to your body, then when you got there you would die again and then have to travel all the way back

-and the quest helper didnt do anything excpet give me more quests and follow me through the cave of spiders with the non-existant vial

-and the trial is not the full game, you cant talk, you cant customize your caractor fully (i know no one cares about that but still) and other stuff i havent seen yet and never will haha

-and the graphics! thats what im saying they suck, but when i put them on ultra the comp lags and it still looks crappy! crysis it will lag a lil but look amazing on high! lol

[QUOTE="AutoPilotOn"]haha really? Level up is to slow and enemies to strong? I dont see any of your points as valid. Try again.SuperToshibaMan

-i played for 3 hours and i was a level 3... (too slow)

-all the enemies were 6+ (too stong)

they all are valid points

..Troll is troll.. You can get to level 3 in a matter of minutes.

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Guys he's obviously trolling. Getting to level five should take a matter of minutes. I remember when my friend played WoW for the first time. He had never played an mmo before and was confused at first. The next day he was almost level twenty.

So there are 2 options here:

1: He's trolling.

2: He is genuinely slow and un-able to grasp the concept of the game.

If it's the second one we should all stop giving him a hard time, it's just mean.

Vuurk

The more I read the more is has to be troll. Nothing else to see here.

L2P

Never played it before today... i finally used those free for ten days things... but ive seen it before and i always thought that the game looked horrible. and today i can finally say that it is, heres why

-You have to pay for it

-free version isnt really a trial, just a demo

-really demanding graphics for no visuals

-too much useless space

-quest items are non-existent

-level up way too slow

-enemies are way too strong

SuperToshibaMan