Greatest RTS of all time?

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#1 monco59
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Since C&C3 is coming up pretty soon, I thought we'd celebrate a little and reminisce. What do you consider in your opinion to be the best RTS of all time? I guess I would have to say the original C&C Tiberian Dawn.
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#2 BeErBOnG29
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Starcraft.
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#3 nic0008
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starcraft and warcraft series. 
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#4 A-S_FM
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definitely dawn of war

the resource model is such that there's no turtling, the entire game is based around the push-and-pull of resource battle, and the combat model is so intense and brutal (and infantry oriented), so there's lots of great killing going on

the way the technology tiers work is pretty awesome too, being totally overrun by infantry at t1 and looking like all is lost, only to just manage to get a t2 tank out and have that one unit drive back all the enemy infantry, i've never played an rts with such awesome intensity

in many rts games, you may spend over fifteen minutes building up a base, with dawn of war, after fifteen minutes, the fight is usually over

there are a lot of great rts games out there, but i'd put dawn of war at the top without a second thought
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#5 Doom_HellKnight
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Dawn of War and/or Company of Heroes. Homeworld for something different.
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#6 Sharvie
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Starcraft, i play it too this day so it must best something special.
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#7 gamelord2004
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Rise of Nations. My favorite

One of the best games nobody bought
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#8 kakarotxiv
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all of the above are so wrong. the BEST RTS is HOMEWORLD
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#9 Terrorantula
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I would have said TA until RA2 but now i say COH.

I played C&C3 but it seems more of the same and doesn't interest me, theres no evolution over the other games.

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#10 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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Starcraft = greatest rts for me.
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#11 jorbo76
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I really loved Rise of Nations.  Dunno if it's the best ever though.

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#12 Keric_basic
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Starcraft = greatest rts for me.the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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#13 g3Ty3LL0w
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I think Ground Control 2 is pretty sweet.
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#14 endtype
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Company of heroes is revolutionary, but I like C&C red alert 2 the best...this is biased though since I had many LAN games with my friends which is way better than single player or online multiplayer.
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#15 GeneralGeorge
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Greatest RTS ever = total annihilation
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#16 Slunk32
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Company of heros for sure.... but Warcraft 3 is a close second

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#17 GeneralGeorge
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WarCraft 3 is the last RTS i'd play. If you're looking for a real RTS game... go for StarCraft, Total Annihilation, Empire Earth 1, or Age of Empires 2. Unless you have a powerful rig, in which case get Supreme Commander.
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#18 bennett
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Starcraft Brood War.
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#19 Vorlin
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For me, it's a toss-up between AOE2 and SC:BW considering how much time I spent with both but I don't know if they're the "greatest" of all time. That's all based on personal opinion.
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#20 Swiftstrike5
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Warcraft
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#21 mrbojangles25
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Dune 2, since it started the genre

Command and Conquer, because it made the genre popular

Homeworld, because it brought so much new stuff to the genre...one of the greatest RTSs, if not greatest games, of all time.

Company of Heroes, because it brought together RTS elements with squad combat like in Silent Storm and other games of that nature

Starcraft/Warcraft series; I personally hate Starcraft and found Warcraft 3 mediocre, but you cannot deny their success.  They kept the RTS genre alive and popular over the years.

Right now, if I had to chose one, I would go for Homeworld.  While other games lacked in one or more departments, Homeworld was the whole package.  It had amazing (revolutionary) gameplay, awesome graphics, resource gathering, ship building, tactics, balance, and to top it all off, an engaging story to match the gameplay.

Thats my whole beef with the Warcraft games, and Starcraft.  They have amazing stories to them, told through cool narration and videos, but once you start a mission its totally boring.  "Bring this thing from site a to site b", or "wipe out the enemy base"

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#22 warstrekkid
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Absolutely Starcraft.  Absolutely.
Should've made this a poll, methinks.
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#23 ninersfan343
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starcraft
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#24 TheAussieCapt
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It would be pretty hard for me to decide between Starcraft and Total Annihilation. I won't count any of the newer RTS's like DoW or CoH, or even SupCom which is my current obsession, because we're considering 'greatest of all time' aren't we, and really it hasn't been long enough for these new titles to be considered in such a category.

If I had to choose between the two games named above, I would probably go for TA by the thinnest margin. But hey, we've each got our own choices here so all is good, all the games listed in this thread have been quality releases in some way or other.

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#25 ProudLarry
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Homeworld has the best single-player plot of any RTS, if not any game ever. So that's definitely close to the best, but the multiplayer wasn't to great. Im going to say Dawn of War with its expansion packs is the best overall though. StarCraft and Homeworld a close second and third.
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#26 Terrorantula
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It would be pretty hard for me to decide between Starcraft and Total Annihilation. I won't count any of the newer RTS's like DoW or CoH, or even SupCom which is my current obsession, because we're considering 'greatest of all time' aren't we, and really it hasn't been long enough for these new titles to be considered in such a category.

If I had to choose between the two games named above, I would probably go for TA by the thinnest margin. But hey, we've each got our own choices here so all is good, all the games listed in this thread have been quality releases in some way or other.

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Why does time its been out effect anything?

If a game launches and is obviously an amazing game then it would be considered. HL for example at time of launch was the best FPS out there by miles.

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#27 Frags-o-Plenty
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I'm going with C&C: Tiberian Dawn. Purely great for its time, and the only game that's made a lasting impression on me. The graphics are great, too--I mean, you can actually see peoples' legs move! How amazing is that? Okay, not so much today, but back then, it was impressive. Kane has been my hero since I first saw him there, too.
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#28 V4LENT1NE
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I have only played two, but they were Rome Total War and COH, both are fantastic, I played RTW so damn much.
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#29 flubagalub
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Rise of Nations is the first RTS I really got into, but then I got Rise of Legends and Company of Heroes, and they are my favourites now. But I don't really play enough to know what the best RTS of all time is.
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#30 hawksfan4life
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Rise of Nations. My favorite

One of the best games nobody bought
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agreed
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#31 madman683
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The first RTS game I've ever played, Star Craft. It revolutionizes the world of RTS Games. I just hope Blizzard will make a sequel for this game!!!

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#32 Subacious
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Starcraft

Supreme Commander is pretty awesome too
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#33 mrbojangles25
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Im sorry, but since we are somewhat on the topic, I just want to ask what is so "revolutionary" about Starcraft.  Personally, I didnt think it was so great, but I do acknowledge the fact that it a good game, and even more important, a respected and loved game.

But seriously, WHY is it so great?  The only thing I can think of is the "balance" of the different races.

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#34 ProudLarry
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The only thing I can think of is the "balance" of the different races.

mrbojangles25
This. In 1998 when it came out, almost every single RTS up until then just had mirror races with maybe 2 or 3 differences between them. Then StarCraft releases and it has 3 completely different races, that use totally different strategies, and have completely different units. It also had a very well developed plot, which also was a rarity then. Integrated Battle.Net support was also important because players didn't have to go searching for patches or some 3rd party matchmaking service; like M Player or something similar.
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#35 Paper_Knife
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well i really enjoyed C&C red alert. i was young, and it was easy + fun.
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#36 MicroM336
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Hard to say, my personal favorite is age of empires 2 with dawn of war/COH a close second.

I can see how starcraft is an awesome game and it deffinately seems balanced well but for some reason it's just never made it for me. So, anyway I guess my vote goes to AOEII.

EDIT: Oh, I completely forgot about homeworld (you can tell which game I played more) now I don't know what to say.
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#37 alijib
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A few days back it was still TA & StarCraft, but NOW its Supreme Commander ( Souped up TA ). :D
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#38 dinuattila
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For me it is Rise of Nations+expansion and Age of Empires 1,2 8)
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#39 THA-TODD-BEAST
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For me, Starcraft without a single question.
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#40 madman23
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It hasn't been mentioned I don't think, so I won't argue for its greatness, but I played the heck outta Age of Mythology.
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C&C
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#43 hamidious
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Warcraft 3 and its expansion.

I also love the RTS battles in Rome Total War.

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#44 BeyondItAll
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Total Annihilation, Supcom is better, but for it's time TA was a bigger deal...
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#45 _Devastator
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Brood War - Just needed higher resolution and higher unit score.
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#46 theonlybadger
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Medieval 2: Total War and Red Alert 2.
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#47 monco59
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Absolutely Starcraft. Absolutely.
Should've made this a poll, methinks.
warstrekkid
I thought about it, but decided there were so many choices I just't couldn't fit them all in to a single poll...
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#48 Sushbag88
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Since C&C3 is coming up pretty soon, I thought we'd celebrate a little and reminisce. What do you consider in your opinion to be the best RTS of all time?monco59

Starcraft. Anyone can say that, and thats not even a subjective statement.

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#49 alexlmt
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Star Craft:roll:
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#50 grandpap
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BTW, it's Tiberium Sun!!