Elder Scrolls Online E3 stage demo with Gamespot....got me back

Great stage demo. Haters can keep on hatin, I'm excited about this game again. They announced the PC will have its own controls and UI exclusive to it and as we have heard separate servers. Some great new gameplay footage here.

Sorry if it's already posted, the board is screwy lately with hiding threads....

 

Great stage demo. Haters can keep on hatin, I'm excited about this game again. They announced the PC will have its own controls and UI exclusive to it and as we have heard separate servers. Some great new gameplay footage here.

 

Sorry if it's already posted, the board is screwy lately with hiding threads....

vfibsux

told you so

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]

 

Great stage demo. Haters can keep on hatin, I'm excited about this game again. They announced the PC will have its own controls and UI exclusive to it and as we have heard separate servers. Some great new gameplay footage here.

 

Sorry if it's already posted, the board is screwy lately with hiding threads....

lawlessx

told you so

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]

 

Great stage demo. Haters can keep on hatin, I'm excited about this game again. They announced the PC will have its own controls and UI exclusive to it and as we have heard separate servers. Some great new gameplay footage here.

 

Sorry if it's already posted, the board is screwy lately with hiding threads....

vfibsux

told you so

if a game is being designed for the PC i would think it's pretty safe to assume the UI will also be designed for the mouse and keyboard.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]

 

Great stage demo. Haters can keep on hatin, I'm excited about this game again. They announced the PC will have its own controls and UI exclusive to it and as we have heard separate servers. Some great new gameplay footage here.

 

Sorry if it's already posted, the board is screwy lately with hiding threads....

lawlessx

told you so

I thought it was pretty obvious the game was going to have a PC UI for the PC version, and your quote in our chat couldnt have said it any better.

...game was announced for the PC first and has been in development for years

lawlessx

Will be interesting to see how this turns out.

Does this game have good exploration and gear finding? What I enjoy most out of Fantasy MMOs is exploring, immersion and finding gear (from quests or exploration), putting it on and seeing the difference on my character. GW2 had the exploration down pat, but the gear finding was lacking.FelipeInside

Gear finding, I believe it will be similar to typical mmos in this regard, exploraion, well it is an Elder Scrolls game, and I do think they might do a good job with exploration.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Does this game have good exploration and gear finding? What I enjoy most out of Fantasy MMOs is exploring, immersion and finding gear (from quests or exploration), putting it on and seeing the difference on my character. GW2 had the exploration down pat, but the gear finding was lacking.Maroxad

Gear finding, I believe it will be similar to typical mmos in this regard, exploraion, well it is an Elder Scrolls game, and I do think they might do a good job with exploration.

"alright guys lets go raid this dungeon and get some loo..wait a min..one of our members is wearing lvl 15 armor in a dungeon that is lvl 17"

*kicks member out of group*

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Does this game have good exploration and gear finding? What I enjoy most out of Fantasy MMOs is exploring, immersion and finding gear (from quests or exploration), putting it on and seeing the difference on my character. GW2 had the exploration down pat, but the gear finding was lacking.lawlessx

Gear finding, I believe it will be similar to typical mmos in this regard, exploraion, well it is an Elder Scrolls game, and I do think they might do a good job with exploration.

"alright guys lets go raid this dungeon and get some loo..wait a min..one of our members is wearing lvl 15 armor in a dungeon that is lvl 17"

*kicks member out of group*

I didnt know that you played WoW during the WotLK era. :P

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

Gear finding, I believe it will be similar to typical mmos in this regard, exploraion, well it is an Elder Scrolls game, and I do think they might do a good job with exploration.

Maroxad

"alright guys lets go raid this dungeon and get some loo..wait a min..one of our members is wearing lvl 15 armor in a dungeon that is lvl 17"

*kicks member out of group*

I didnt know that you played WoW during the WotLK era. :P

i didn't sir..i played tera online :(

I will buy as long as it had no sub fee.

I will buy as long as it had no sub fee.

HyperWarlock

then your not buying

[QUOTE="HyperWarlock"]

I will buy as long as it had no sub fee.

lawlessx

then your not buying

Oh, is there a sub fee? Oh well, no big loss.

suprised they would go that route, seeing as nearly all sub MMO's are going f2p because they can't sustain it.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="HyperWarlock"]

I will buy as long as it had no sub fee.

HyperWarlock

then your not buying

Oh, is there a sub fee? Oh well, no big loss.

suprised they would go that route, seeing as nearly all sub MMO's are going f2p because they can't sustain it.

what the heck? when did this turn into first person. This looks awesome now. I think it will be good, the horrible voice acting that bethesda games are known for should fit right into the MMO format lol. But couldn't you just make skyrim online for up to 4 people and have the same experience? like do we really need a MMO?

what the heck? when did this turn into first person. This looks awesome now. I think it will be good, the horrible voice acting that bethesda games are known for should fit right into the MMO format lol. But couldn't you just make skyrim online for up to 4 people and have the same experience? like do we really need a MMO?

longtimelurker0

what the heck? when did this turn into first person. This looks awesome now. I think it will be good, the horrible voice acting that bethesda games are known for should fit right into the MMO format lol. But couldn't you just make skyrim online for up to 4 people and have the same experience? like do we really need a MMO?

longtimelurker0

This MMO is not taking the place of any single player Bethsoft game, it is a completely different studio. So why not an MMO? And not everyone is into co-op stuff. I would like the next single player one to have co-op options though, that would be cool.

So many things go into making an MMO good. There's so many factors that need to be good about it or it'll collapse.

I was surprised when he said there's LUA modification for the interface. That's going to be a nice plus for the PC and MAC. The problem I have is with the combat. I'm not sure what it's going to be like, but if it's like Skyrim's, I can't imagine it having a high skill ceiling in PvP.

I think MMOs have become one of the hardest genres for developers to build a game around these days. The amount of stuff that has to go into the game, then making sure all that works and then keeping it all constantly updated and working. Plus they've got a constant stream of customers to keep happy based on what's in the game and making future decisions on the direction they want to take the game based on that. If they've got a large team of talent working on it then it could succeed. As you might have guessed I've played WoW over its lifespan and recently I was genuinely surprised when I read how much stuff is going into the next patch right after a content patch which already featured the highest quality raid I've seen. MMOs seem like they're staggering to work on.

Wow (no pun intended)....a real post from Unreal.......... a pig has spouted wings somewhere in the world.

Wow (no pun intended)....a real post from Unreal.......... a pig has spouted wings somewhere in the world.

vfibsux

Looks better than i expected.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"]

Wow (no pun intended)....a real post from Unreal.......... a pig has spouted wings somewhere in the world.

FelipeInside

ugh "megaserver technology" = one channels .... lame lame lame and not new win any formMBirdy88

[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]ugh "megaserver technology" = one channels .... lame lame lame and not new win any formFelipeInside

Oh....so there's no actual gameplay to convince me that this game isn't complete sh!t. It's just a PR interview.

[spoiler] But...but... it's a BETA....it's an alpha!!! They'll fix it! :cry: [/spoiler]

So many things go into making an MMO good. There's so many factors that need to be good about it or it'll collapse.

I was surprised when he said there's LUA modification for the interface. That's going to be a nice plus for the PC and MAC. The problem I have is with the combat. I'm not sure what it's going to be like, but if it's like Skyrim's, I can't imagine it having a high skill ceiling in PvP.

I think MMOs have become one of the hardest genres for developers to build a game around these days. The amount of stuff that has to go into the game, then making sure all that works and then keeping it all constantly updated and working. Plus they've got a constant stream of customers to keep happy based on what's in the game and making future decisions on the direction they want to take the game based on that. If they've got a large team of talent working on it then it could succeed. As you might have guessed I've played WoW over its lifespan and recently I was genuinely surprised when I read how much stuff is going into the next patch right after a content patch which already featured the highest quality raid I've seen. MMOs seem like they're staggering to work on.

-Unreal-

The combat seems to be a mix of GW2 and Skyrim from the looks of things, so dont expect a high skill cieling in either PvP or PvE.

Yeah, mmos are quite possibly the hardest genre to work on, not only program but also provide all the content and support for. I am sure there is a reason mmo genre has shattered so many devs.

Oh....so there's no actual gameplay to convince me that this game isn't complete sh!t. It's just a PR interview.

 

 

[spoiler] But...but... it's a BETA....it's an alpha!!! They'll fix it! :cry: [/spoiler]

Jebus213

I saw lots of gameplay..I don't know what you were watching.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]

Oh....so there's no actual gameplay to convince me that this game isn't complete sh!t. It's just a PR interview.

 

 

[spoiler] But...but... it's a BETA....it's an alpha!!! They'll fix it! :cry: [/spoiler]

HyperWarlock

I saw lots of gameplay..I don't know what you were watching.

I saw bits and pieces of a trailer. Not gameplay. Any actual gameplay that was in there lasted less then a minute...

I'm sorry but this looks like shit. If they could have made Skyrim mutiplayer coop or something that would have been mind blowing. This looks like the run of the mill with generic graphics.Travis_Odell

[QUOTE="Travis_Odell"]I'm sorry but this looks like shit. If they could have made Skyrim mutiplayer coop or something that would have been mind blowing. This looks like the run of the mill with generic graphics.vfibsux

Skyrim was moddable and had absolutely no restrictions on how to build your character.

This is unmoddable and has restrictions on how to build your character.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"][QUOTE="Travis_Odell"]I'm sorry but this looks like shit. If they could have made Skyrim mutiplayer coop or something that would have been mind blowing. This looks like the run of the mill with generic graphics.Maroxad

Skyrim was moddable and had absolutely no restrictions on how to build your character.

This is unmoddable and has restrictions on how to build your character.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="vfibsux"] Doesn't look much different than Skyrim to me. I think some of you just see what you want to see personally.vfibsux

Skyrim was moddable and had absolutely no restrictions on how to build your character.

This is unmoddable and has restrictions on how to build your character.

"This looks like the run of the mill with generic graphics." -He could have referred to either.

Either way, it doesnt look terribly much like skyrim either. While they did go for a similar aethestic, it seems like whenever I see ESO it feels like it is missing something that skyrim had when it comes to visuals and atmosphere.

Maybe cause i didn't play Skyrim/Oblivion much but the first and third person combat looks similar. And enough of "skyrim was moddable", this is an MMO.FelipeInside

I am just saying that the visuals seem to be lacking some kind of ingredient, which Skyrim and Oblivoin had. Everytime I look at ESO the world just looks dead and lifeless compared to the ones in single player TES games which didnt look anywhere near as dead.

As for modding, custom dungeons, player housing are 2 ways they could have some form of player customization in the game. We know that ESO will have a customizable UI though.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Maybe cause i didn't play Skyrim/Oblivion much but the first and third person combat looks similar. And enough of "skyrim was moddable", this is an MMO.Maroxad

I am just saying that the visuals seem to be lacking some kind of ingredient, which Skyrim and Oblivoin had. Everytime I look at ESO the world just looks dead and lifeless compared to the ones in single player TES games which didnt look anywhere near as dead.

As for modding, custom dungeons, player housing are 2 ways they could have some form of player customization in the game. We know that ESO will have a customizable UI though.

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]Maybe cause i didn't play Skyrim/Oblivion much but the first and third person combat looks similar. And enough of "skyrim was moddable", this is an MMO.FelipeInside

I am just saying that the visuals seem to be lacking some kind of ingredient, which Skyrim and Oblivoin had. Everytime I look at ESO the world just looks dead and lifeless compared to the ones in single player TES games which didnt look anywhere near as dead.

As for modding, custom dungeons, player housing are 2 ways they could have some form of player customization in the game. We know that ESO will have a customizable UI though.

From what I have seen MMO modding includes,

Custom dungeons and missions (City of Heroes, Neverwinter)
Player Created Arenas
Custom Interface
Custom Music

A good portion of these isnt truly modding in a sense, but all these are player created content and addons.

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Maroxad"]

I am just saying that the visuals seem to be lacking some kind of ingredient, which Skyrim and Oblivoin had. Everytime I look at ESO the world just looks dead and lifeless compared to the ones in single player TES games which didnt look anywhere near as dead.

As for modding, custom dungeons, player housing are 2 ways they could have some form of player customization in the game. We know that ESO will have a customizable UI though.

Maroxad

From what I have seen MMO modding includes,

Custom dungeons and missions (City of Heroes, Neverwinter)
Player Created Arenas
Custom Interface
Custom Music

A good portion of these isnt truly modding in a sense, but all these are player created content and addons.

It is late but, Kevin Van Ord was unimpressed by ESO

And they are all very limited compared to Skyrim/Oblivion modding. What I have seen looks plenty like the Elder scrolls world to me. Even the GS dude in this video said the game feels very much you are playing Skyrim and it was kinda weird to be in that world with other people. I think I will take the experience of someone who played it over someone who is talking about it. vfibsux

Well yes. it is limited compared to single player games like Skyrim. But it is still more than what ESO will have.

I cannot refute the other point though since I havent played it but that said, whenever I look at it it looks a bit I dunno cartoony, too clean...

Just compare these 2,

Definatly impressed. looks not just good graphics wise but fun. steam workshop! 

It is late but, Kevin Van Ord was unimpressed by ESO

[QUOTE="vfibsux"] And they are all very limited compared to Skyrim/Oblivion modding. What I have seen looks plenty like the Elder scrolls world to me. Even the GS dude in this video said the game feels very much you are playing Skyrim and it was kinda weird to be in that world with other people. I think I will take the experience of someone who played it over someone who is talking about it. Maroxad

Well yes. it is limited compared to single player games like Skyrim. But it is still more than what ESO will have.

I cannot refute the other point though since I havent played it but that said, whenever I look at it it looks a bit I dunno cartoony, too clean...

Just compare these 2,

[QUOTE="Maroxad"]

It is late but, Kevin Van Ord was unimpressed by ESO

[QUOTE="vfibsux"] And they are all very limited compared to Skyrim/Oblivion modding. What I have seen looks plenty like the Elder scrolls world to me. Even the GS dude in this video said the game feels very much you are playing Skyrim and it was kinda weird to be in that world with other people. I think I will take the experience of someone who played it over someone who is talking about it. vfibsux

Well yes. it is limited compared to single player games like Skyrim. But it is still more than what ESO will have.

I cannot refute the other point though since I havent played it but that said, whenever I look at it it looks a bit I dunno cartoony, too clean...

Just compare these 2,

^^ Is that all sarcasm?

Those two screenshots look like the same game to me.FelipeInside

The screenshot does look good but in that article Kevin described that though he was in Daggerfall, a lot of what he had to do was cookie-cutter MMO errands which colors me unimpressed.

I hoped it would be more Elder Scrolls than MMO but in essence I don't believe the free-form style of TES carries over in an online game where we all get to kill the emperor, though I see they are creating a sandbox world where we get to run caravans and build ships. Cool enough but meh, that's not what I want to do in an Elder Scrolls. And if it is going to be a washed out Elder Scrolls with standard MMO faire like the new Neverwinter Online and sandbox elements, it's not for me. I do hope for the TES series that it will stand out and be worth playing but I don't have expectations for it to succeed in my eyes. That's how I feel about the new MMO.

Edit: also, no mods.. :P