Are you all over-reacting to Ubisoft's new DRM? Yes, yes you are.

Here's an interesting read from YouGamers' review of Assassin's Creed II on the PC: http://www.yougamers.com/reviews/27485_assassins_creed_ii-page5/

The reviewer says the following: "Okay, so you may now expect me to start ripping apart the "horrendous" and "anti-consumer" DRM system that Ubisoft has devised and included with Assassin's Creed II, Silent Hunter 5 and all announced upcoming Ubi PC releases. I'm not going to do so and I actually applaud UbiSoft for going with the system."

Look, a lot of you are saying that its going to be cracked and that it has but the truth is that it HAS NOT be cracked and it seems unlikely that it will be anytime soon. Another quote: "Assuming UbiSoft has actually done their homework and this is really the case - key parts of the game logic running on the server side - the system may be impossible to crack without completely reverse-engineering the server side code and doing it without any access to it. Good luck with that."

Will it be cracked? I have no doubt that it will be but its not going to be today or tomorrow. Ubisoft's DRM WORKED. The only people playing are the people who payed for the game.

Also, please stop saying the pirates are heroes. They are the ones causing this mess anyway. In any case, please feel feel to insult me now and call me a Ubisoft tool! =D

Ubisoft's DRM WORKED. The only people playing are the people who payed for the game.spiderman120988

[QUOTE="spiderman120988"]Ubisoft's DRM WORKED. The only people playing are the people who payed for the game.CellAnimation

Yeah I know. Ubi loyalists will say only 5% were affected as if it is alright that Ubisoft goes up to one in five and slaps their face after taking $60.

I wonder how many people actually bought the game though.... Personally I don't think their games will sell as well compared to if they had no drm.

The only UBI game I've ever enjoyed was the original Far Cry, the rest are crap.denter21

They didn't even develop that, only published it.

I wonder how many people actually bought the game though.... Personally I don't think their games will sell as well compared to if they had no drm.

the_mitch28

If there is a God or karma they will flop but so many people just don't care that they are being slapped around.

To OP: You're entitled and allowed to you're own opinion but so are other people

Ubi loyalists will say only 5% were affected as if it is alright that Ubisoft goes up to one in five and slaps their face after taking $60.

PublicNuisance

*One in twenty. Couldn't help it :oops:

[QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

Ubi loyalists will say only 5% were affected as if it is alright that Ubisoft goes up to one in five and slaps their face after taking $60.

True_Sounds

*One in twenty. Couldn't help it :oops:

I stand corrected. Still sucks to be that one person knowing you paid $60 to get screwed.

Hey even if this system did work. Im not buying it because it's unreasonable. I understand having to verify you're playing a legit copy when you start the gamebut this having to be online 24/7? No thanks. So it works? Yes. Me buying? No

I agree that it's a good system that ubi implemented to keep the pirates at bay. Now if they would only make it less annoying to people who purchased the game then it won't be so bad.

I didn't buy this game just because of the DRM, so at least I'll live with the knowledge that they definitely lost at least 1 sale. I get enough of Big Brother from my government, thank you very much.

As Jeff Gerstmann said on the Giant Bombcast, if this is where they are going to draw the line then they should just stop putting out games on the PC altogether, and I'm inclined to agree. They really aren't doing their company image or the PC gaming community any favors.StopThePresses

[QUOTE="StopThePresses"]As Jeff Gerstmann said on the Giant Bombcast, if this is where they are going to draw the line then they should just stop putting out games on the PC altogether, and I'm inclined to agree. They really aren't doing their company image or the PC gaming community any favors.DaRockWilder

Ubisoft is so quick to quote "losses" caused by piracy. How much did they spend on this drm? and how long will it last for before its cracked into redundancy.

They then pass the costs to actual customers who have to shell out $60 for a 5 months old game. How much is the console version of assassins creed now? That price plus dlc (they are essentially forcing dlc purchases aswell) wont cost $60 and lets not forget we cant even trade in their games on pc to get some money back.

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest, the only people that are complaining are the ones that won't be able to pirate the games, me i already bought Assassin's Creed II and i haven't had a single problem with it.DaRockWilder

Um also how come their hasn't been any flak fired EA's way yet? They're doing the same thing with CnC4 and quite possibly future PC releases.

No, we're under reacting.

Um also how come their hasn't been any flak fired EA's way yet? They're doing the same thing with CnC4 and quite possibly future PC releases.

the_mitch28

Um also how come their hasn't been any flak fired EA's way yet? They're doing the same thing with CnC4 and quite possibly future PC releases.

the_mitch28

Ubisoft is so quick to quote "losses" caused by piracy. How much did they spend on this drm?

MondeEdlu

Not much I assume, it's based on Massgate. Implementing it in other games compensates the costs.

Um also how come their hasn't been any flak fired EA's way yet? They're doing the same thing with CnC4 and quite possibly future PC releases.

the_mitch28

EA announced in August 2009 that CnC will require permanent connection and they gave very valid reasons for this. The recent Ubi controversy caught them in the crossfire, because some sites (and forum users...) conveniently forgot or ignored this and claim that EA is imitating Ubisoft.

Moral of the story............support the good games that DON'T have a DRM setup.

I don't know why companies like EA or Ubisoft release DRM. Even if they make the most powerful DRM ever, pirates will always find a way for crack it and put the game on torrent sites. The DRM is supposed to stop pirates but that doesn't work so why continue doing that? The loyal consumers are the ones who must endure the DRM meanwhile pirates and people that download from torrents are quite happy playing a game that they didn't pay a penny for use it and don't have DRM. Miroku32

Only issue I have with it is that you need internet connection to play the game, there are those in the world who does not have a stable network connection due to their supplier and as such will potentially have issues with the games.Treflis

I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest, the only people that are complaining are the ones that won't be able to pirate the games, me i already bought Assassin's Creed II and i haven't had a single problem with it.DaRockWilder

I can't stand people like you. I haven't pirated a PC game in my life. Heck if we go by our collection here on Gamespot I own 292 PC games to your 72. I just have gotten tired of DRM and being told how I can play a game that I paid for. A line has to be drawn, this is mine.

I will also say that Ubisoft lost just about the entire military player base (folks in the military play ALOT of games in their downtime, for some obvious reasons - I should know; 2 separate tours of duty w/ 2 brances. Military internet connections have always been subject to OPSEC protocols - and in certain situations ALL outside network activity is blocked (except for certain sites like the Army webmail site, and Navy mail servers [2 I have experience with]). Not to mention the folks forward deployed who don't have the luxury of paying for their own internet access and have to rely on the provided satellite access in their camp. Anyway - I have talked enough on this DRM stuff, just kinda sick of the whole thing. I won't buy the games that have it - I don't care if other folks do or don't. To each their own.carlosjuero

I don't recall games being allowed on a government/DoD network ever, downtime or not. On most deployed sites I've been to in the past, consoles are the norm. They're either on a dedicated (non-government) LAN, or single player/splitscreen. On a government server? Nope. They better not be. That's grounds for getting kicked out or even going to jail.

Will it be cracked? I have no doubt that it will be but its not going to be today or tomorrow. Ubisoft's DRM WORKED. spiderman120988

I refused to appeased to this aggression to us loyal customer we all vow to stand against this madness!

the only people that are complaining are the ones that won't be able to pirate the gameDaRockWilder

[QUOTE="DaRockWilder"]I don't see anything wrong with it to be honest, the only people that are complaining are the ones that won't be able to pirate the games, me i already bought Assassin's Creed II and i haven't had a single problem with it.PublicNuisance

I can't stand people like you. I haven't pirated a PC game in my life. Heck if we go by our collection here on Gamespot I own 292 PC games to your 72. I just have gotten tired of DRM and being told how I can play a game that I paid for. A line has to be drawn, this is mine.

I'm against pretty much any form of DRM so I'm only reacting normally. Not buying that crap EA is putting out either (they did announce this service first btw).

[QUOTE="DaRockWilder"]the only people that are complaining are the ones that won't be able to pirate the gamesuperclocked

Um also how come their hasn't been any flak fired EA's way yet? They're doing the same thing with CnC4 and quite possibly future PC releases.

the_mitch28

The DRM is a community-wide concern. I'd say you're undereacting.

Here's an interesting read from YouGamers' review of Assassin's Creed II on the PC: http://www.yougamers.com/reviews/27485_assassins_creed_ii-page5/

The reviewer says the following: "Okay, so you may now expect me to start ripping apart the "horrendous" and "anti-consumer" DRM system that Ubisoft has devised and included with Assassin's Creed II, Silent Hunter 5 and all announced upcoming Ubi PC releases. I'm not going to do so and I actually applaud UbiSoft for going with the system."

Look, a lot of you are saying that its going to be cracked and that it has but the truth is that it HAS NOT be cracked and it seems unlikely that it will be anytime soon. Another quote: "Assuming UbiSoft has actually done their homework and this is really the case - key parts of the game logic running on the server side - the system may be impossible to crack without completely reverse-engineering the server side code and doing it without any access to it. Good luck with that."

Will it be cracked? I have no doubt that it will be but its not going to be today or tomorrow. Ubisoft's DRM WORKED. The only people playing are the people who payed for the game.

Also, please stop saying the pirates are heroes. They are the ones causing this mess anyway. In any case, please feel feel to insult me now and call me a Ubisoft tool! =D

spiderman120988

you are kind of missing the point here though, whether it is cracked or not doesnt make much difference, the fact is people who DO buy the game have to contend with this system, the very people who deserve to play the game WITHOUT problems... the pirates are not heroes, and asyou said they are the ones causing this problem, and they sure arent the ones who can solve it, but that deosnt give Ubisoft the right to give legitimate customers problems just so that some idiot who probably wouldnt buy the game anyway cant download it, at least not without expecting some sort of backlash, which brings me back to the original point you made that we are overreacting... we are not, we have done nothing wrong, so why should we be treated like second class citizens?

My personal reaction to alll this is that I'm simply not going to buy any games that have this system... i'm not going to pirate the games, i'm just going to leave them completely. I'm not going to pay for a game that is going to treat me like a pirate when i am not a pirate. the connection issue may not affect the majority of customers who have a stable connection, and at the moment, I'm on a university connection which is stable, but in a few weeks i go home and i know that my connection at home does occasionally cut off for unkown reasons. if not buying the game because of this is overreacting... well... how else can we react without overreacting?

there is then the fact that IF this system is cracked, and proves ultimately worthless, then what will they move to next? if they keep having to take more and more drastic measures to keep pirates from playing their games, it will just get out of control, and what is especially wrong with this system is that a load of other PC games are out at the moment that use very little, or no DRM and get along fine... if the game is good, people who want to buy it WILL buy it, people who don't want to buy it will pirate it, but they werent going to buy it anyway...

either way, this system is a failure and a disgrace, if im overreacting then so be it, but ubisoft arent getting any money from me.

(and just for the record - im not posting this as a hate message to the OP... just putting my opinion across)

I'll buy the game if it's good enough. I'll even put up with the online DRM. The moment something goes wrong, I'll be on the warpath and possible not buy another game again or even move on to consoles.

Just the same, my anger is still directed at the pirates. If I ever encounter one, I'd rat them out in a heartbeat or maybe slash the tires of their cars or something.

Will it be cracked? I have no doubt that it will be but its not going to be today or tomorrow. Ubisoft's DRM WORKED. The only people playing are the people who payed for the game.

spiderman120988

You posted this March 19th. Today is March 20th, and the game has been cracked.

You win, good sir.