would we survive a supernova if the sun had one?

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#1 halo9424
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would we live through it?
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#2 MM555
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No, and if the initial explosion didn't destroy Earth, not having the sun would lead to us freezing to death...or worse
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#3 Crunchman
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We could just push the Earth into another galaxy. Or we could transfer our entire population and leave the old people.
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#4 Ezgam3r
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HAHAHA....Hell no!
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#5 Canuck3000
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Well. Not in this era no. We'd all die.
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#6 deactivated-59d151f079814
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The sun would have to be 10 times more massive then it is now, that lone would kill us.. A super nova can kill us light years away...
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No, and if the initial explosion didn't destroy Earth, not having the sun would lead to us freezing to death...or worseMM555

The initial explosion would kill earth and probably the whole solar system.

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#8 TERMINAT0R1
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Nope.
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#9 SpootyHead
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Umm... no. Now I'm not a science expert or anything of the sort, but I kinda thought that the only way earth could substain life is if it was in this particular orbit... now, imagine our life support system blowing up...
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#10 DivergeUnify
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We'd get owned.
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#11 kodex1717
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The Sun can't have a Nova, lurk moar.
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[QUOTE="MM555"]No, and if the initial explosion didn't destroy Earth, not having the sun would lead to us freezing to death...or worseplague32390

The initial explosion would kill earth and probably the whole solar system.

Probably? Its certainty, if the star was large enough to go super nova there would be nothing left in our solar system.. Not a single planet would survive.

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#13 reservoir_doggy
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Cockroaches would survive. Thats about it
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#14 plague32390
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[QUOTE="plague32390"]

[QUOTE="MM555"]No, and if the initial explosion didn't destroy Earth, not having the sun would lead to us freezing to death...or worsesSubZerOo

The initial explosion would kill earth and probably the whole solar system.

Probably? Its certainty, if the star was large enough to go super nova there would be nothing left in our solar system.. Not a single planet would survive.

Yeah. If something did survive though it would just get sucked into the black hole that came after it. So everything is f'ed anyway.

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#15 gameeer1
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Hell no...The inner planets would be completely obliterated, and possibly the outer planets too.
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[QUOTE="MM555"]No, and if the initial explosion didn't destroy Earth, not having the sun would lead to us freezing to death...or worseplague32390

The initial explosion would kill earth and probably the whole solar system. Neptuen and Pluto MIGHT survive but then they would just get sucked into the black hole that came after it

The Sun is (to our current knowlege) too small to supernova or turn into a black hole anyways.
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#17 B05T0N
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Only if it's a Champagne Supernova. (anyone who gets the reference wins cookies :))
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#18 Messer_Partei
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supernovas are what cause black holes. light doesn't escape black holes. so, no
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We'd die but it'd be nice and quick
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#20 OblivionXII
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It can turn into a red giant and still swallow the Earth up though.
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#21 gameeer1
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[QUOTE="plague32390"]

[QUOTE="MM555"]No, and if the initial explosion didn't destroy Earth, not having the sun would lead to us freezing to death...or worseEzgam3r

The initial explosion would kill earth and probably the whole solar system. Neptuen and Pluto MIGHT survive but then they would just get sucked into the black hole that came after it

The Sun is (to our current knowlege) too small to supernova or turn into a black hole anyways.

That would mean it would leave behind a 'Neutron star', right?

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Cockroaches would survive. Thats about itreservoir_doggy

........Your kidding right? Planet earth would be blown into dust.. A Super Nova dozens of light years away could destory our entire atmosphere thus causing mass extinction..

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[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="plague32390"]

[QUOTE="MM555"]No, and if the initial explosion didn't destroy Earth, not having the sun would lead to us freezing to death...or worsegameeer1

The initial explosion would kill earth and probably the whole solar system. Neptuen and Pluto MIGHT survive but then they would just get sucked into the black hole that came after it

The Sun is (to our current knowlege) too small to supernova or turn into a black hole anyways.

That would mean it would leave behind a 'Neutron star', right?

No it would leave behind a white dwarf.. Neutron Stars are left behind by massive stars that are just small enough to not beocme a black hole.

They can also change into other things as well.. Like a Magnitar.. A Neutron star with magnetic force 100 billion times of that earth.. So powerful if you got close enough it would warp your flesh from the magnetic forces.. These are extremely rare luckily, if one say were 10 light years away from us, it most likely would kill us sooner or later from gamma ray burts.

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#24 Severed_Hand
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Only if it's a Champagne Supernova. (anyone who gets the reference wins cookies :))B05T0N

Oasis?

no, we would not survive... on earth that is....

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[QUOTE="B05T0N"]Only if it's a Champagne Supernova. (anyone who gets the reference wins cookies :))Severed_Hand

Oasis?

no, we would not survive... on earth that is....

We wouldn't survive on any planet in the solar system, or any planet for that matter in close proximity of say 20 light years?

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Is this serious?
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#27 deactivated-59d151f079814
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supernovas are what cause black holes. light doesn't escape black holes. so, noMesser_Partei

Not all super novas leave behind Blackholes.. And we could have a black hole near us and still be safe, in the sense we owuldn't be sucked in nor severely effected by its gravity.. Though it would have to be a good distnace loonger because most stellar black holes are around 20 to 30 times the mass of the sun.

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#28 Neoyamaneko
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I saw a science video saying that the inner planets are going to be the first things to go when the Sun goes Red Giant in about 5 BILLION years. I don't think the human race will survive that long anyway.
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[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="plague32390"]

[QUOTE="MM555"]No, and if the initial explosion didn't destroy Earth, not having the sun would lead to us freezing to death...or worsegameeer1

The initial explosion would kill earth and probably the whole solar system. Neptuen and Pluto MIGHT survive but then they would just get sucked into the black hole that came after it

The Sun is (to our current knowlege) too small to supernova or turn into a black hole anyways.

That would mean it would leave behind a 'Neutron star', right?

No, it would become a white dwarf. It would be pretty interesting to see the whole prosses in action. Too bad we can't live billions of years so then we'll be able to see it all go down.
It can turn into a red giant and still swallow the Earth up though.OblivionXII
No, it wouldn't swallow up Earth. It should only swallow Mercury and Venus but Earth will end up looking like Mercury at the end of the day...

The good news is, because of the expansion, Europa and Titan could get hot enough to support life! But the lifeforms (if any) wouldn't have too much time to evolve before the Sun went into its next phase...

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[QUOTE="gameeer1"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="plague32390"]

[QUOTE="MM555"]No, and if the initial explosion didn't destroy Earth, not having the sun would lead to us freezing to death...or worseEzgam3r

The initial explosion would kill earth and probably the whole solar system. Neptuen and Pluto MIGHT survive but then they would just get sucked into the black hole that came after it

The Sun is (to our current knowlege) too small to supernova or turn into a black hole anyways.

That would mean it would leave behind a 'Neutron star', right?

No, it would become a white dwarf. It would be pretty interesting to see the whole prosses in action. Too bad we can't live billions of years so then we'll be able to see it all go down.
It can turn into a red giant and still swallow the Earth up though.OblivionXII
No, it wouldn't swallow up Earth. It should only swallow Mercury and Venus but Earth will end up looking like Mercury at the end of the day...

The good news is, because of the expansion, Europa and Titan could get hot enough to support life! But the lifeforms (if any) wouldn't have too much time to evolve before the Sun went into its next phase...

Luckily our star is relatively small star, if it were as large to cause a super nova we would have never gotten so far as a race.. The reason being is larger stars live much much shorter lives.

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[QUOTE="B05T0N"]Only if it's a Champagne Supernova. (anyone who gets the reference wins cookies :))Severed_Hand

Oasis?

no, we would not survive... on earth that is....


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#32 Ezgam3r
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[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="gameeer1"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="plague32390"]

[QUOTE="MM555"]No, and if the initial explosion didn't destroy Earth, not having the sun would lead to us freezing to death...or worsesSubZerOo

The initial explosion would kill earth and probably the whole solar system. Neptuen and Pluto MIGHT survive but then they would just get sucked into the black hole that came after it

The Sun is (to our current knowlege) too small to supernova or turn into a black hole anyways.

That would mean it would leave behind a 'Neutron star', right?

No, it would become a white dwarf. It would be pretty interesting to see the whole prosses in action. Too bad we can't live billions of years so then we'll be able to see it all go down.
It can turn into a red giant and still swallow the Earth up though.OblivionXII
No, it wouldn't swallow up Earth. It should only swallow Mercury and Venus but Earth will end up looking like Mercury at the end of the day...

The good news is, because of the expansion, Europa and Titan could get hot enough to support life! But the lifeforms (if any) wouldn't have too much time to evolve before the Sun went into its next phase...

Luckily our star is relatively small star, if it were as large to cause a super nova we would have never gotten so far as a race.. The reason being is larger stars live much much shorter lives.

So true. And we're even luckier since we have more then enough time to develop better technologies so we could leave our solar system before any of the Sun's last phases start. That is if we don't kill each other or some unforeseen event goes down like a major asteroid coming at us or a gamma ray burst or something.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="gameeer1"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="plague32390"]

[QUOTE="MM555"]No, and if the initial explosion didn't destroy Earth, not having the sun would lead to us freezing to death...or worseEzgam3r

The initial explosion would kill earth and probably the whole solar system. Neptuen and Pluto MIGHT survive but then they would just get sucked into the black hole that came after it

The Sun is (to our current knowlege) too small to supernova or turn into a black hole anyways.

That would mean it would leave behind a 'Neutron star', right?

No, it would become a white dwarf. It would be pretty interesting to see the whole prosses in action. Too bad we can't live billions of years so then we'll be able to see it all go down.
It can turn into a red giant and still swallow the Earth up though.OblivionXII
No, it wouldn't swallow up Earth. It should only swallow Mercury and Venus but Earth will end up looking like Mercury at the end of the day...

The good news is, because of the expansion, Europa and Titan could get hot enough to support life! But the lifeforms (if any) wouldn't have too much time to evolve before the Sun went into its next phase...

Luckily our star is relatively small star, if it were as large to cause a super nova we would have never gotten so far as a race.. The reason being is larger stars live much much shorter lives.

So true. And we're even luckier since we have more then enough time to develop better technologies so we could leave our solar system before any of the Sun's last phases start. That is if we don't kill each other or some unforeseen event goes down like a major asteroid coming at us or a gamma ray burst or something.

My personal favorite space related dooms day event is a rogue black hole smashing into our solar system.. Sense we can not see a black hole and a black hole gives off nothing when its not feeding, one could be 10 years away and we wouldn't notice it.

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#34 branketra
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I really, really doubt it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye0dJhSH_LU

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#35 branketra
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[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="plague32390"]

[QUOTE="MM555"]No, and if the initial explosion didn't destroy Earth, not having the sun would lead to us freezing to death...or worsegameeer1

The initial explosion would kill earth and probably the whole solar system. Neptuen and Pluto MIGHT survive but then they would just get sucked into the black hole that came after it

The Sun is (to our current knowlege) too small to supernova or turn into a black hole anyways.

That would mean it would leave behind a 'Neutron star', right?

No, I think it's supposed to turn into white dwarf then a black drawf.
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#37 Blazin_Ice
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We would die before the supernova, Earth would be consumed in the sun's Red Giant stage, where the sun grows so large it consumes the first three planets of the solar system.
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[QUOTE="Severed_Hand"]

[QUOTE="B05T0N"]Only if it's a Champagne Supernova. (anyone who gets the reference wins cookies :))B05T0N

Oasis?

no, we would not survive... on earth that is....


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Extra credit:

The phrase is also used in astrology. I could give a half assed poor explanation but I think wiki covers it better ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champagne_Supernova_%28astronomy%29

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Only if it's a Champagne Supernova. (anyone who gets the reference wins cookies :))B05T0N

oasis,now give me my cookie

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[QUOTE="Severed_Hand"]

[QUOTE="B05T0N"]Only if it's a Champagne Supernova. (anyone who gets the reference wins cookies :))sSubZerOo

Oasis?

no, we would not survive... on earth that is....

We wouldn't survive on any planet in the solar system, or any planet for that matter in close proximity of say 20 light years?

I didn't specify a planet in this solar system or 20 light years away. :P

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I wouldn't survive a supernova because of the impact.
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#42 PannicAtack
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No...

I state what doubtless every other poster in this thread has already stated.

If the sun had a supernova, it would wipe out pretty much all of the inner planets, maybe more. And if somehow it didn't, the Earth would turn into a giant ice ball.

>_>

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#43 FlaminDeath
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Short anser: No

Long answer: Hell no

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#44 SilentFireX
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Nope lol.
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#45 1005
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Two words would summarise planet Earths situation if the sun went supernova...

Game Over!

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#46 spam-Robot
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We just need enough greenhouse gasses to make the Earth into a star. If we could accumulute roughly 10 trillion billion (confusing?) amounts of todays greenhouse gasses wihin the next 3 billion years (lets assume humanity mutates into beings that no longer need oxygen for survival, and are immortal via the "god" console cheat) Then the earth would be able to consume the sun, thus ending any supernovas that would occur! Problem Solved.
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#47 buxboy
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Die making love.
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#48 Morphic
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You know my science teacher told us this once. I dunno if it's true exactly, but it's interesting if it is. If the sun exploded, we wouldn't know for 15 minutes cause thats how long light takes to get here. So it could ofe xploded 5 minutes ago and you wouldn't even know it.
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No, and if the initial explosion didn't destroy Earth, not having the sun would lead to us freezing to death...or worseMM555

What he said.

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#50 Bill900
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let me explain what would happen using math:

Earth and everything on it = screwed