Why is Community College frowned apon?

Seriously, why the hell is it? I'm sick and tired of it being called the retarted school or the "woops I should have paid attention in highschool" school.

I'm going to be a Senior next year and for sure know I won't get accepted into a University(that I want). So iv'e decided to go enroll in a CC this summer and right after my senior year to get some credits(if thats how it works).

Iv'e heard that it's much easier and cheaper to transfer from a CC to a University than going straight to a University from Highschool.(My cousin got out of a CC in 8~12 months and got into a university)

Correct me im wrong here....:|

Quick college question to, is going to a state college and transfering to a University easier or hard than doing that with a CC.

Why wouldn't you get accepted into regular uni/college?

Why wouldn't you get accepted into regular uni/college?

SgtKevali

I go to a JUCO right now because it's the only place I can go for free. I don't see why you should be ashamed of it or anything. There are smaller classes and an easier environment to get help from a teacher.

I got inducted into Phi Theta Kappa tonight, which is a two-year college honors society. I don't mind attending a JUCO, especially since I don't have to pay.

It depends on your career.

When I ran my IT business, obviously I met a lot of other IT people. The people who went to university for however many years weren't much better off than someone who had just gone and got his MCSE, and in fact many were worse off because of student loans.

PLANNING out your career is more important than where you went to school. Figure out what you want to do and what you need to do it, and go get JUST THAT. Even lawyers can pass the BAR exam without college.

However, if you plan to be a doctor or something, there's no way around college.

Where I come from it definitely wasn't frowned upon, so I can't quite relate. Although whoever called it retarded probably is.

As for transferring, it really depends on how well you did. It might be better to transfer from a state school, but probably to a very small extent. But you should definitely at least apply, I don't see why you wouldn't try.

It's easier and cheaper to transfer. Also, it won't show up on your diploma that you were in a CC. And there's nothing wrong with one.auron_16

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Why wouldn't you get accepted into regular uni/college?

MrLions

That's why people look down on it. It's often for people who slack off. Not always, but sometimes.

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Why wouldn't you get accepted into regular uni/college?

SgtKevali

That's why people look down on it. It's often for people who slack off. Not always, but sometimes.

It's going to be a long, hard life if you let someone else's idea of what success is dictate your own success.guynamedbilly

Wow, well said

I don't understand either.

Its a helluva lot cheaper then going all 4 years in some big university. I was real close to an associates degree from Clackamas Community College. And then they went and dropped my degree program.

Some day i hope I can transfer.

Because they don't have the "big name" reputation, and because there's a higher probability that you will receive a less-than-exemplary education than at an established institution. I agree that it's fairly ridiculous, since community colleges can very often furnish one with an excellent education, especially when it comes to specialized fields, but the contempt IS understandable. People just tend to go with what they know, and it takes a long time for an academic institution to build up a reputation.

I'm planing on going back to a community college because its alot cheaper and I will get the same credit when I transfer back to my university. I don't know who frowns upon it. If you can get the same transferable credit for it, its a hell of alot cheaper.

Going to some big fancy college won't make you any better at Modern Warfare 2.

Remember that.

Because if you went there then you messed up somehow in your grades. Thats not something to be proud of.

THIS is exactly what I would like to know, my brother has been giving all kinds of lecture about how commnunity college isn't good, since that where I'm going in the fall. I'd rather start slower anyways, that way I can get a feel for it and eventually transfer into an actual college

I went to one for my first two years of college before transferring to a university. It got most of my gen eds out of the way and I picked up an associates degree for my troubles. Oh, and it was free via scholarship money since you can take an entire semester at a CC for the cost of one class at a university.

I'm at CC right now, and I just got accepted to UCLA with a Regents scholarship. CC is a great way to go if you want to save some money and it can definitely help you get into the school of your choice depending on where you want to go. That said, I do kind of wish I had had the freshman and sophomore experience at UC, and there are a few other things that I feel like I missed out on, but it's definitely nothing to feel ashamed of or anything. My advice though, if you do go to a CC, try to pick out a major as soon as possible and take the courses you need to be ready for transfer. I settled on a major pretty late, and it's made things a bit difficult.

Because if you went there then you messed up somehow in your grades. Thats not something to be proud of.

_CaptainHappy_

I graduated high school with a 4.65 :/

Seriously, why the hell is it? I'm sick and tired of it being called the retarted school or the "woops I should have paid attention in highschool" school.

I'm going to be a Senior next year and for sure know I won't get accepted into a University(that I want). So iv'e decided to go enroll in a CC this summer and right after my senior year to get some credits(if thats how it works).

Iv'e heard that it's much easier and cheaper to transfer from a CC to a University than going straight to a University from Highschool.(My cousin got out of a CC in 8~12 months and got into a university)

Correct me im wrong here....:|

Quick college question to, is going to a state college and transfering to a University easier or hard than doing that with a CC.

MrLions

CC is fine, as long as you transfer to a university to finish your studies.

But as Chris Rock said, "it's called Community College because ANYONE in the community can get in."

And as I've said before, there is absolutely no inherent value in a high school or a college education. These days, a high school diploma doesn't mean jack ****, since ANYONE can get one. A bachelor's degree from a decent university is only slightly less worthless, since most people have no problem doing that **** either.

With community colleges, you're getting an education which (even if not subpar) is seen as being subpar because it's so easy for people to get degrees from community colleges.

This probably shouldn't matter to you. Check to make sure, but the credits earned at your community college ought to transfer over to a university later. You can finish your education at a university later. But people look down on community colleges because they are about as far as you can get from the elite schools. They're full of people who are poor or unlikely to succeed in their studies, because they make it easy for that to be the case by making it easy for anyone to get admitted.

where the hell are you were they frown upon it? Its smarter then going to a university and paying almost triple what you would pay at a community college. The only time its even safe to go to a 4 year university right after high school is when you get a scholarship. Or if your mommy and daddy are paying for it.

Because they don't have the "big name" reputation, and because there's a higher probability that you will receive a less-than-exemplary education than at an established institution. I agree that it's fairly ridiculous, since community colleges can very often furnish one with an excellent education, especially when it comes to specialized fields, but the contempt IS understandable. People just tend to go with what they know, and it takes a long time for an academic institution to build up a reputation.

pianist

It's about the scarcity of valuables, really.

Community college is easier to get into, therefore it's seen as (more or less, to varying degrees) worthless (by the people who don't have to go to community college).

Is the education at community colleges "less-than-exemplary"? I wouldn't know. But if that's the case, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. Certainly not any more than finding out that high schools in poor primarily black districts offer a less-exemplary education than high schools in wealthy predominantly white districts.

Yeah, community colleges are absolutely frowned upon, because they're seen as educations for people who were too stupid and poor to get a "real" education. But then again, so what? As long as going to a community college helps you to finish your education at a university (while saving you lots of money), then what's the problem?

It shows that you're not in the same league as the guys who were able to go straight to university. Everyone gets placed on a relative scale, and if you went to CC then you're at the bottom. The college itself might be just fine.F1_2004

From what I can tell, that's not true at all. If you get good grades at CC and then your four year university, you don't have any less of a chance of getting into graduate/law/med/etc. school than someone who went right out of high school. From that point it doesn't matter that you went to CC in terms of getting a job because all they'll care about is that higher degree.

I am going to CC right now trying to get into one of the best nursing programs in Oregon. Only 16 people are admitted out of 300 applicants not everyone can get in. The CC here is really good

One can acquire an excellent education from a community college. But as Geezer mentioned, anyone can get in. That means ANYONE. I've spent the past two years at a community college, and there are quite a few people that certainly didn't graduate from high school, and it shows. That said, it can be a good financial move.

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]It shows that you're not in the same league as the guys who were able to go straight to university. Everyone gets placed on a relative scale, and if you went to CC then you're at the bottom. The college itself might be just fine.GTALoco

From what I can tell, that's not true at all. If you get good grades at CC and then your four year university, you don't have any less of a chance of getting into graduate/law/med/etc. school than someone who went right out of high school. From that point it doesn't matter that you went to CC in terms of getting a job because all they'll care about is that higher degree.

My friend with a 3.8 GPA is doing the community college thing just on the principle of

A) You save money.

B) The core/required classes for the first two years will be much smaller than any university. You get more 1:1 time with your teacher (which in many universities is possible by appointment only).

C) There's no reason to go to a University yet unless you're jump-starting yourself into a career plan already (like Engineering).

There's no shame in going to community college. Most students these days go to a University for all the wrong reasons anyways.

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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]It shows that you're not in the same league as the guys who were able to go straight to university. Everyone gets placed on a relative scale, and if you went to CC then you're at the bottom. The college itself might be just fine.F1_2004

From what I can tell, that's not true at all. If you get good grades at CC and then your four year university, you don't have any less of a chance of getting into graduate/law/med/etc. school than someone who went right out of high school. From that point it doesn't matter that you went to CC in terms of getting a job because all they'll care about is that higher degree.

There are other reasons to go to CC. Like I said, I graduated highschool with a 4.65, went to CC, got into UCLA, will probably get into Berkeley (finding out tomorrow, although I already committed to UCLA). When you transfer to a UC, they don't even look at your highschool grades. So, yeah, as long as you have the grades, it doesn't matter.

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]It shows that you're not in the same league as the guys who were able to go straight to university. Everyone gets placed on a relative scale, and if you went to CC then you're at the bottom. The college itself might be just fine.GTALoco

From what I can tell, that's not true at all. If you get good grades at CC and then your four year university, you don't have any less of a chance of getting into graduate/law/med/etc. school than someone who went right out of high school. From that point it doesn't matter that you went to CC in terms of getting a job because all they'll care about is that higher degree.

C) There's no reason to go to a University yet unless you're jump-starting yourself into a career plan already (like Engineering).

KHAndAnime

*Whistles* :roll: .....Guess im not jump starting is that a bad thing? :cry:

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C) There's no reason to go to a University yet unless you're jump-starting yourself into a career plan already (like Engineering).

MrLions

*Whistles* :roll: .....Guess im not jump starting is that a bad thing? :cry:

I don't really see what that has to do anything. If your CC offers the major preparation courses that you need to take for the major, then it's not really going to be a setback at all. What's you'll have to take is going to depend on which school you go to, but I assume there will be some calculus/physics sequences in there, but if you're motivated you could even finish at CC early. I've heard of a few engineering majors who transferred in one year rather than two. That might not be something that would be easy to do at a four year. That said, engineering majors are usually really competitive, so make sure you keep your GPA up.

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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]It shows that you're not in the same league as the guys who were able to go straight to university. Everyone gets placed on a relative scale, and if you went to CC then you're at the bottom. The college itself might be just fine.F1_2004

From what I can tell, that's not true at all. If you get good grades at CC and then your four year university, you don't have any less of a chance of getting into graduate/law/med/etc. school than someone who went right out of high school. From that point it doesn't matter that you went to CC in terms of getting a job because all they'll care about is that higher degree.