Why Do People Hate Justin Bieber?

Instead of listening to the predictably crappy music that is Justin Bieber, people should listen to underground hip-hop that has an actual message to it and speaks out against the establishment.

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"And if you go platinum it has nothing to do with luck! It just means that a million people are stupid as fvck!"
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Instead of listening to the predictably crappy music that is Justin Bieber, people should listen to underground hip-hop that has an actual message to it and speaks out against the establishment.

JLCrogue

yeah man that's what I'm talkin about I bet nobody who listens to that stuff is gay!

haha, you guys are hilarious. how can someone get so upset and concerned about someone who likes something they don't like? :\

PinkiePirate

It's not so much about the fact that I don't like it, it's more or less the fact that it's objectively bad.

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haha, you guys are hilarious. how can someone get so upset and concerned about someone who likes something they don't like? :\

TheFatPerson

It's not so much about the fact that I don't like it, it's more or less the fact that it's objectively bad.

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[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"]

haha, you guys are hilarious. how can someone get so upset and concerned about someone who likes something they don't like? :\

PinkiePirate

It's not so much about the fact that I don't like it, it's more or less the fact that it's objectively bad.

Of course there's music that's objectively bad, if you compare it to other music artists that are more creative, display more ingenuity in their music, and are overall more talented. The fact that formulaic, banal music exists simply to attract the lowest common denominator and make money is not subjective. Anyone can see that.

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"][QUOTE="TheFatPerson"]

It's not so much about the fact that I don't like it, it's more or less the fact that it's objectively bad.

TheFatPerson

Of course there's music that's objectively bad, if you compare it to other music artists that are more creative, display more ingenuity in their music, and are overall more talented. The fact that formulaic, banal music exists simply to attract the lowest common denominator and make money is not subjective. Anyone can see that.

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"][QUOTE="TheFatPerson"]

It's not so much about the fact that I don't like it, it's more or less the fact that it's objectively bad.

TheFatPerson

Of course there's music that's objectively bad, if you compare it to other music artists that are more creative, display more ingenuity in their music, and are overall more talented. The fact that formulaic, banal music exists simply to attract the lowest common denominator and make money is not subjective. Anyone can see that.

I couldn't agree with you more, most of the garbage on the radio is objectively bad and doesn't have any real substance to it. At least that's what mainstream hip-hop and R&B are like.

[QUOTE="JLCrogue"]

Instead of listening to the predictably crappy music that is Justin Bieber, people should listen to underground hip-hop that has an actual message to it and speaks out against the establishment.

WolfattheDoor34

yeah man that's what I'm talkin about I bet nobody who listens to that stuff is gay!

I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic... anyway, I hope you're serious, because gays tend to listen to lady gaga and other crap. Some of my favorite rappers have some offending lyrics to gays.

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[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"] it's still music and it's still subjective. there is no such thing as "objectively bad."PinkiePirate

Of course there's music that's objectively bad, if you compare it to other music artists that are more creative, display more ingenuity in their music, and are overall more talented. The fact that formulaic, banal music exists simply to attract the lowest common denominator and make money is not subjective. Anyone can see that.

You're half right. Art certainly doesn't need others approval. I personally don't listen to rap and hip-hop, but I still acknowledge it as an art form, and a good form of expression. I don't like Michael Jackson and U2's music, but I do acknowledge their work as art, and I can agree that they are talented artists.

Justin Bieber; however isn't art. It's generic, mass-marketed, brainless dribble that simply exists to make a quick buck from gullible, ignorant people who wouldn't know what good music was if an iPod full of it was shoved up their ass.

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[QUOTE="JLCrogue"]

Instead of listening to the predictably crappy music that is Justin Bieber, people should listen to underground hip-hop that has an actual message to it and speaks out against the establishment.

JLCrogue

yeah man that's what I'm talkin about I bet nobody who listens to that stuff is gay!

I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic... anyway, I hope you're serious, because gays tend to listen to lady gaga and other crap. Some of my favorite rappers have some offending lyrics to gays.

haha gays are so gay

just look at them, all gay and stuff, loving crap music, can you even believe how gay they are? lol THE GAYS

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[QUOTE="WolfattheDoor34"]

yeah man that's what I'm talkin about I bet nobody who listens to that stuff is gay!

WolfattheDoor34

I can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic... anyway, I hope you're serious, because gays tend to listen to lady gaga and other crap. Some of my favorite rappers have some offending lyrics to gays.

haha gays are so gay

just look at them, all gay and stuff, loving crap music, can you even believe how gay they are? lol THE GAYS

:lol:

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"][QUOTE="TheFatPerson"]

Of course there's music that's objectively bad, if you compare it to other music artists that are more creative, display more ingenuity in their music, and are overall more talented. The fact that formulaic, banal music exists simply to attract the lowest common denominator and make money is not subjective. Anyone can see that.

TheFatPerson

You're half right. Art certainly doesn't need others approval. I personally don't listen to rap and hip-hop, but I still acknowledge it as an art form, and a good form of expression. I don't like Michael Jackson and U2's music, but I do acknowledge their work as art, and I can agree that they are talented artists.

Justin Bieber; however isn't art. It's generic, mass-marketed, brainless dribble that simply exists to make a quick buck from gullible, ignorant people who wouldn't know what good music was if an iPod full of it was shoved up their ass.

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[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"] art can be anything it wants to be and doesn't need the approval of others to be enjoyed. PinkiePirate

You're half right. Art certainly doesn't need others approval. I personally don't listen to rap and hip-hop, but I still acknowledge it as an art form, and a good form of expression. I don't like Michael Jackson and U2's music, but I do acknowledge their work as art, and I can agree that they are talented artists.

Justin Bieber; however isn't art. It's generic, mass-marketed, brainless dribble that simply exists to make a quick buck from gullible, ignorant people who wouldn't know what good music was if an iPod full of it was shoved up their ass.

Money and popularity is totally relevant. That's why record companies are so successful and that's why pop stars like Justin Bieber are so recognized.

You can like Justin Bieber if you want. But you're really giving him more credit than he deserves. To claim that he is talented and his music exemplifies art is utterly laughable to the highest degree.

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"][QUOTE="TheFatPerson"]

You're half right. Art certainly doesn't need others approval. I personally don't listen to rap and hip-hop, but I still acknowledge it as an art form, and a good form of expression. I don't like Michael Jackson and U2's music, but I do acknowledge their work as art, and I can agree that they are talented artists.

Justin Bieber; however isn't art. It's generic, mass-marketed, brainless dribble that simply exists to make a quick buck from gullible, ignorant people who wouldn't know what good music was if an iPod full of it was shoved up their ass.

TheFatPerson

Money and popularity is totally relevant. That's why record companies are so successful and that's why pop stars like Justin Bieber are so recognized.

You can like Justin Bieber if you want. But you're really giving him more credit than he deserves. To claim that he is talented and his music exemplifies art is utterly laughable to the highest degree.

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[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"] all music is art. money and popularity are irrelevant.PinkiePirate

Money and popularity is totally relevant. That's why record companies are so successful and that's why pop stars like Justin Bieber are so recognized.

You can like Justin Bieber if you want. But you're really giving him more credit than he deserves. To claim that he is talented and his music exemplifies art is utterly laughable to the highest degree.

And here come the ad hominem attacks!

This debate is officially over. :)

[QUOTE="TheFatPerson"]

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"] all music is art. money and popularity are irrelevant.PinkiePirate

Money and popularity is totally relevant. That's why record companies are so successful and that's why pop stars like Justin Bieber are so recognized.

You can like Justin Bieber if you want. But you're really giving him more credit than he deserves. To claim that he is talented and his music exemplifies art is utterly laughable to the highest degree.

I can sing better, at least I don't have one of those annoyingly high pitch voices.

[QUOTE="PinkiePirate"][QUOTE="TheFatPerson"]

Money and popularity is totally relevant. That's why record companies are so successful and that's why pop stars like Justin Bieber are so recognized.

You can like Justin Bieber if you want. But you're really giving him more credit than he deserves. To claim that he is talented and his music exemplifies art is utterly laughable to the highest degree.

TheFatPerson

And here come the ad hominem attacks!

This debate is officially over. :)

it's still music and it's still subjective. there is no such thing as "objectively bad."PinkiePirate

Of course there's music that's objectively bad, if you compare it to other music artists that are more creative, display more ingenuity in their music, and are overall more talented. The fact that formulaic, banal music exists simply to attract the lowest common denominator and make money is not subjective. Anyone can see that.

Money and popularity is totally relevant.TheFatPerson

[QUOTE="TheFatPerson"]Money and popularity is totally relevant.Nibroc420

His hometown is close to mine, so the local news feel that they need to report on everything about him. Can't escape.

He's douchey.

For awhile it was just his status as an incredibly popular teen superstar. Now days? It's probably more of a joke than anything, he doesn't seem nearly as popular as before (which was bound to happen over time).

Probably because his superfans can be annoying.

He's not talented and is very feminine.

Because they're jelly that an 18 year old boy has more money than they'll accumulate in their next fifty life cycles.

There are no valid answers in this thread from those that dislike him.

Fact is, they hate him because he's their age but he's rich and he's getting the girls these keyboard warriors drool for in school. The kid is exremely talented, he can sing and he can also play instruments (damn good too). The main thing with Bieber haters is jealousy, plain and simple.

I don't care about him, one way or the other.

That's because I am a grown man with responsibilities and priorities, and I don't have enough time in the day or emotion left in me after work to sit down and think about how much I hate a teenaged boy for being a popular teenaged boy.

Seriously, if you're over like, 16, and you "hate" Justin Beiber, you need to step back evaluate what you're doing with your spare time, and why you have so much of it.

I don' t hate him as I really don' t care enough about him to express any "strong" feeling whatsoever. If anything he' s annoying because he' s an arrogant douchy as most teenagers like him who happen to rise in fame really fast. Those ones that manage popularity and money in a balanced and humble way (they' re very few though) I can respect them for showing maturity and strong character and don' t surrender to temptations.

Why Do People Hate Justin Bieber?

PSP107

Why are you asking rhetorical questions?

because justin beiber sucks?

There are no valid answers in this thread from those that dislike him.

Fact is, they hate him because he's their age but he's rich and he's getting the girls these keyboard warriors drool for in school. The kid is exremely talented, he can sing and he can also play instruments (damn good too). The main thing with Bieber haters is jealousy, plain and simple.