Why do all you people hate religions??

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2aW2N46vf4Q

It's slightly biased, but after watching it I was sorta iffy about religions.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Names! :Pmarkop2003

Deity_Slapper. . . . . . . .

because you have to stand against something nowadays:roll:

A lot of Religion haters came from religious families and want to "rebel"

[QUOTE="NumCha"]

Lol well if everyone the bible condemned

was an athiest then there would be about 5 christians left

Theokhoth

That makes no sense at all.

i think it means that the bible has too many rules and if everyone that are currently breaking one of those rules

e.g. by sellping man with man

or by wearing clothing of two different material

then there would only be 5 people who are completely incncoennt well that what i think it means

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2aW2N46vf4Q

It's slightly biased, but after watching it I was sorta iffy about religions.

Murj

"This video is a small excerpt from ZEITGEIST - The Movie"

Oh, God, come on.

[QUOTE="NumCha"]

Lol well if everyone the bible condemned

was an athiest then there would be about 5 christians left

Theokhoth

That makes no sense at all.

I think he may be attempting to mock how many things the Bible condemns. I could easily be wrong, though. :?

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Deity_Slapper. . . . . . . .

Godly_Warrior

Why? Were you not. . .Conservative enough?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="NumCha"]

Lol well if everyone the bible condemned

was an athiest then there would be about 5 christians left

NumCha

That makes no sense at all.

i think it means that the bible has too many rules and if everyone that are currently breaking one of those rules

e.g. by sellping man with man

or by wearing clothing of two different material

then there would only be 5 people who are completely incncoennt well that what i think it means

Well, that's just completely off.

There would be NO completely innocent people. At all. Anywhere. Ever.

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Deity_Slapper. . . . . . . .

Godly_Warrior

[QUOTE="NumCha"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

That makes no sense at all.

Theokhoth

i think it means that the bible has too many rules and if everyone that are currently breaking one of those rules

e.g. by sellping man with man

or by wearing clothing of two different material

then there would only be 5 people who are completely incncoennt well that what i think it means

Well, that's just completely off.

There would be NO completely innocent people. at all. Anywhere. Ever.

There would be NO completely innocent people. At all. Anywhere. Ever.

Theokhoth

Well, technically speaking, that is in a nutshell the entire concept of original sin.

A lot of Religion haters came from religious families

Ace_WondersX

You know, based on my experience, that's actually true. The loudest ones are from strictly religious families.

Your post is great.. Except insofar as it represents the views of almost no one..Funky_Llama

Dude. Did you even see that "religious people scare me" thread?

[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]

A lot of Religion haters came from religious families

Theokhoth

You know, based on my experience, that's actually true. The loudest ones are from strictly religious families.

[QUOTE="Godly_Warrior"][QUOTE="markop2003"] *Counter attacks with Godly_warrior* We should have made them 2 fight it out in thier own religon thread :PTheokhoth

Why? Were you not. . .Conservative enough?

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Your post is great.. Except insofar as it represents the views of almost no one..Theokhoth

Dude. Did you even see that "religious people scare me" thread?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]

A lot of Religion haters came from religious families

Funky_Llama

You know, based on my experience, that's actually true. The loudest ones are from strictly religious families.

Well, you're not that loud, but that wasn't the argument I was making. :P

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Godly_Warrior"] Maybe I'm actually just Deity_Slapper in disguise. Anyhow in other news I have been booted out of the CWU.Godly_Warrior

Why? Were you not. . .Conservative enough?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]Your post is great.. Except insofar as it represents the views of almost no one..Funky_Llama

Dude. Did you even see that "religious people scare me" thread?

Today. It's still on the front page.

It ruins productivity and the human race thats why.lucky326

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

You know, based on my experience, that's actually true. The loudest ones are from strictly religious families.

Theokhoth

Well, you're not that loud, but that wasn't the argument I was making. :P

It ruins productivity and the human race thats why.lucky326

It ruins productivity and the human race thats why.lucky326

The human race has existed about 4 million years. Since culture started existing about 10-20 thousand years ago, and since religion has been around as long as culture (is even an integral part of it), and since humanity seems to be doing fine, I'd say that statement is inaccurate.

I came from an extrememly christian family, although i dont hate christians i laugh at most of the thing in the bible and find it ofdd that anyone would actually pay any attention to itNumCha

A large portion of the New Testament, which forms the basis of the Christian faith, is filled with life lessons that are applicable regardless of whether or not one is a Christian. I think one of the big problem is that the holy roller types tend to only expound about the verses that drive away non-believers, which leads to them believing that that's all there is in the Bible.

It ruins productivity and the human race thats why.lucky326

On average, religious people in America tend to be much more generous than non-religious people. The idea that every religious person is like the preachers you find on a street corner is patently false.

I'm agnostic but my parents weren't strict Christians by far. What does that mean?

And Theokhoth... You are a chicken!:P

[QUOTE="lucky326"]It ruins productivity and the human race thats why.Theokhoth

The human race has existed about 4 million years. Since culture started existing about 10-20 thousand years ago, and since religion has been around as long as culture (is even an integral part of it), and since humanity seems to be doing fine, I'd say that statement is inaccurate.

It ruins productivity and the human race thats why.lucky326

And Theokhoth... You are a chicken!:P

Teenaged

Damn straight I'm a chicken. So you'd better back the **** off or I'ma gon' call in all my buds, and we'll be ALL up in yo' **** like peas on a freakin' tabletop, capiche?!:x

*Reference

It ruins productivity and the human race thats why.lucky326

On average, religious people in America tend to be much more generous than non-religious people. The idea that every religious person is like the preachers you find on a street corner is patently false.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="lucky326"]It ruins productivity and the human race thats why.NumCha

The human race has existed about 4 million years. Since culture started existing about 10-20 thousand years ago, and since religion has been around as long as culture (is even an integral part of it), and since humanity seems to be doing fine, I'd say that statement is inaccurate.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="lucky326"]It ruins productivity and the human race thats why.NumCha

The human race has existed about 4 million years. Since culture started existing about 10-20 thousand years ago, and since religion has been around as long as culture (is even an integral part of it), and since humanity seems to be doing fine, I'd say that statement is inaccurate.

Abortion has nothing to do with science and embryonic stem cell research is obsolete. You were saying?

Scientific advancements should never, ever be made at the expense of human life. That's not religion; that's simple humanity.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

And Theokhoth... You are a chicken!:P

Theokhoth

Damn straight I'm a chicken. So you'd better back the **** off or I'ma gon' call in all my buds, and we'll be ALL up in yo' **** like peas on a freakin' tabletop, capiche?!:x

*Reference

[QUOTE="lucky326"]It ruins productivity and the human race thats why.NumCha

On average, religious people in America tend to be much more generous than non-religious people. The idea that every religious person is like the preachers you find on a street corner is patently false.

theres no proof in thatNumCha

Yes there is.

[QUOTE="NumCha"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

The human race has existed about 4 million years. Since culture started existing about 10-20 thousand years ago, and since religion has been around as long as culture (is even an integral part of it), and since humanity seems to be doing fine, I'd say that statement is inaccurate.

Theokhoth

Abortion has nothing to do with science and embryonic stem cell research is obsolete. You were saying?

Scientific advancements should never, ever be made at the expense of human life. That's not religion; that's simple humanity.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]

And Theokhoth... You are a chicken!:P

Teenaged

Damn straight I'm a chicken. So you'd better back the **** off or I'ma gon' call in all my buds, and we'll be ALL up in yo' **** like peas on a freakin' tabletop, capiche?!:x

*Reference

The Legend of Zelda. :P

[QUOTE="NumCha"]I came from an extrememly christian family, although i dont hate christians i laugh at most of the thing in the bible and find it ofdd that anyone would actually pay any attention to itGabuEx

A large portion of the New Testament, which forms the basis of the Christian faith, is filled with life lessons that are applicable regardless of whether or not one is a Christian. I think one of the big problem is that the holy roller types tend to only expound about the verses that drive away non-believers, which leads to them believing that that's all there is in the Bible.

It ruins productivity and the human race thats why.lucky326

On average, religious people in America tend to be much more generous than non-religious people. The idea that every religious person is like the preachers you find on a street corner is patently false.

I hate how so many people think every religious person is like a preacher.
So I agree with you thats false that they are all preacheres.

I've never had a religious person try to convert me.
I have had many non religious people tell me to not be a Catholic anymore, and they always think the world will end cause all the religious people always have wars.

Well if there was only non religious people on this earth for the past 20,000 years, then no one would have said it was wrong to kill anyone or rob, so the humans would have died out along time ago due to people killing each other more then they do now.

Firstly, while I say I'm an athiest, I'm probably more agnostic because I just don't know, but I severely doubt the existance of a god.

Secondly "hate" is a pretty strong word. Resentment is probably a better word.

And why? Because, if I wrote a book and told you I was the son of god would you believe me? So why should you believe a 2000 year old book where people had almost literally no understanding of the way the world really works (i.e. things science have since explained). Sure, the Bible has a few moral stories and ways to help people, but as soon as you start attributing every good thing in your life to an imaginary being you stop giving yourself, humanity, credit--and then, when something bad happens you say "we brought this on ourselves. We strayed away from the light. God is displeased with us," like it's OUR fault, and not as equally of a cosmic coincidence as the good things you just attributed to you imaginary saviour.

Also, I think religion is a dumb idea. If you know ancient Roman history and Greek history and how their religions change, and how the Catholic Church has changed to "fit the times," well that's not religion. That's a fan club. Islam is the only thing that kinda fits under what I'd call religion, but I find it, even it's most lax groups, to still be pretty extreme, compared to some of the liberal ideals I hold (note some, not all, or even many).

And then we have the fundamentalists who take everything literally.

And people who will "pray for me."

People who think they'll be going somewhere better when they die.

Religion is a sad attempt to make life better than it really is, to give humanity and life some meaning other than "just because."

NumCha, I work at a church and I have found the members of my parish to be incredibly generous.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="NumCha"] yes however alot of scientific research is crippled and could go soo much further if it wasnt for thpose pesky poreotesting christians always complaining that no one except for god has the right to take a human life, ie abortion, stem cell researchFunky_Llama

Abortion has nothing to do with science and embryonic stem cell research is obsolete. You were saying?

Scientific advancements should never, ever be made at the expense of human life. That's not religion; that's simple humanity.

That won't matter much to the people science kills, now will it?

[QUOTE="Teenaged"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Damn straight I'm a chicken. So you'd better back the **** off or I'ma gon' call in all my buds, and we'll be ALL up in yo' **** like peas on a freakin' tabletop, capiche?!:x

*Reference

Theokhoth

The Legend of Zelda. :P

What??? Anyway I'll stop this fight because there will be too much blood and we will stain the people in this thread.

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="NumCha"]

A large portion of the New Testament, which forms the basis of the Christian faith, is filled with life lessons that are applicable regardless of whether or not one is a Christian. I think one of the big problem is that the holy roller types tend to only expound about the verses that drive away non-believers, which leads to them believing that that's all there is in the Bible.

[QUOTE="lucky326"]It ruins productivity and the human race thats why.joshrocks2245

On average, religious people in America tend to be much more generous than non-religious people. The idea that every religious person is like the preachers you find on a street corner is patently false.

I hate how so many people think every religious person is like a preacher.
So I agree with you thats false that they are all preacheres.

I've never had a religious person try to convert me.
I have had many non religious people tell me to not be a Catholic anymore, and they always think the world will end cause all the religious people always have wars.

Well if there was only non religious people on this earth for the past 20,000 years, then no one would have said it was wrong to kill anyone or rob, so the humans would have died out along time ago due to people killing each other more then they do now.

That is soo wrong religion isnt the only thing telling us not to kil,l and rob

what about before religion people still lived then and were bale to produce and then "find" religion

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Teenaged"] :| :| :? :? :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:Teenaged

The Legend of Zelda. :P

What??? Anyway I'll stop this fight because there will be too much blood and we will stain the people in this thread.

You know how in Zelda games, the chickens will beat the living hell out of you if you attack one enough times?

Im going to have to ask for proof or you can GTHO. Thanks.6matt6

Here.