What would happen if 2 super massive black holes collide?

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#1 DeX2010
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I am very interested in this. We know that Galaxy's can colide - Our galaxy(The Milky Way) is actually going to collide with the andromeda galaxy in about 3 billion years, but as this happens the supermassive black holes in galaxies will also collide and here is where things get interesting.

The gravitational forces involved in the collision would be huge, but what would actually happen?

*Waits for Xaos to click on thread*

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*shrugs*

Maybe create a new universe? Completely destroy ours? Make a loud fart noise?

No idea.

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#3 markop2003
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They'd combine of course. A black hole is just a lot of mass crushed together so there's no reason it wouldn't act like any other mass.
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The last time that happened, Anderson Silva was created.

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Sounds like a ****storm to me.

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#6 Cataclism
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I saw a documentary on this once. Apparently either our solar system will be sucked by the black holes, be thrown off into the space between galaxies where there's nothing, or, I guess, stay on the new combined galaxy. Provided it doesn't run into another star system. There are galaxies out there that were a result of galaxies coliding.

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#8 coolbeans90
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They'd combine of course. A black hole is just a lot of mass crushed together so there's no reason it wouldn't act like any other mass.markop2003

^^ My impression as well.

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#9 DeX2010
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I saw a documentary on this once. Apparently either our solar system will be sucked by the black holes, be thrown off into the space between galaxies where there's nothing, or, I guess, stay on the new combined galaxy. Provided it doesn't run into another star system. There are galaxies out there that were a result of galaxies coliding.

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Yes but what would happen to the black holes? :)
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#10 LieutenantFeist
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They would simply form a bigger black hole.

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#11 194197844077667059316682358889
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Curse the glitch in the "new, improved" Gamespot that disallows me making this a linky: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=black+hole+collision+simulation
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#12 ferrari2001
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Curse the glitch in the "new, improved" Gamespot that disallows me making this a linky: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=black+hole+collision+simulationxaos
well then I guess that's thread. Good work team. (by team I mean xaos)
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Curse the glitch in the "new, improved" Gamespot that disallows me making this a linky: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=black+hole+collision+simulationxaos

Just use [ url] tags without spaces:

[ url = (insert link here) ] text here [ /url ]

[ url ] link here [ /url ]

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#14 194197844077667059316682358889
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Just use [ url] tags without spaces:

[ url = (insert link here) ] text here [ /url ]

[ url ] link here [ /url ]

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I'm using the HTML editor, which is currently busted. It automatically and unavoidably adds an attribute to links, which then editor then says is not allowed. Catch 22 :( And the WYSIWYG editor is just an atrocity. But thank you!
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They would make....an even bigger black hole?
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#16 coolbeans90
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Just use [ url] tags without spaces:

[ url = (insert link here) ] text here [ /url ]

[ url ] link here [ /url ]

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Past differences aside, you officially my hero.

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#17 -TheSecondSign-
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Probably just form into a single even bigger black hole.

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I have to say, I was underwhelmed by that link. I was expecting something a little more...sexy.
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Elvis would come back to life and become the new ruler of the universe. Honestly, I have no idea. :)
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#20 Sunfyre7896
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black hole 1

OR THIS

Black hole 2

OR THIS

Black hole 3

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#21 Hakarie
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They'd combine of course. A black hole is just a lot of mass crushed together so there's no reason it wouldn't act like any other mass.markop2003

How about no? Seriously did you read that out of the back of a Lucky Charms box?

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Well its already happened and the result is the galaxy Andromeda which was thought to have been created when two galaxies collided and their blackholes fused. However the chances of the Milky Way and Andromada colliding in 3-5 billion years are actually unknown as their is no way to tell if we will collide or just miss each other. It's too far into the future to predict and by then there will probably be no Earth.
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#23 Optical_Order
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[QUOTE="markop2003"]They'd combine of course. A black hole is just a lot of mass crushed together so there's no reason it wouldn't act like any other mass.Hakarie

How about no? Seriously did you read that out of the back of a Lucky Charms box?

:lol: What kind of lucky charm boxes have you been reading...? Mine don't talk about black holes. :(

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[QUOTE="markop2003"]They'd combine of course. A black hole is just a lot of mass crushed together so there's no reason it wouldn't act like any other mass.Hakarie

How about no? Seriously did you read that out of the back of a Lucky Charms box?

The angular momentum aspect that would tend to prevent collisions is relatively subtle, and absent that, markop's description is pretty much what would happen.
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Ultra massive black hole.
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#26 BuryMe
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They combine and beome a bigger black hole

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#27 Morphic
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They would try to stick the other in their big holes until the one with the best sucking and biggest hole wins.

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#28 DeX2010
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Curse the glitch in the "new, improved" Gamespot that disallows me making this a linky: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=black+hole+collision+simulationxaos
There are different simulations though. Some show one black hole being jettisoned out of the galaxy by the gravitational force, some show them merging. I have used google but there are differing opinions and I'm not sure which one to believe. Google is a confusing friend.
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[QUOTE="markop2003"]They'd combine of course. A black hole is just a lot of mass crushed together so there's no reason it wouldn't act like any other mass.Hakarie

How about no? Seriously did you read that out of the back of a Lucky Charms box?

How about yes? Black holes can swallow other black holes, they usually grow in size once complete (the time frame on that could be millions, to hundreds of millions of years)
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Ask Powerman5000.

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I am very interested in this. We know that Galaxy's can colide - Our galaxy(The Milky Way) is actually going to collide with the andromeda galaxy in about 3 billion years, but as this happens the supermassive black holes in galaxies will also collide and here is where things get interesting.

The gravitational forces involved in the collision would be huge, but what would actually happen?

*Waits for Xaos to click on thread*

DeX2010
They won't collide they'll spin arond eachother. altering time in the area, meaning they won't collide, because time is stuck. There is no time there.
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Pretty sure they spin around until they collide, debris flies around and then a new galaxy is formed. I watched the whole space season on Discovery Science 2 or 3 times (some episodes even more times). All galaxies have a super massive black hole in the center that holds everything in a huge orbit around it. Watch more discovery science, really.
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#33 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="DeX2010"]

I am very interested in this. We know that Galaxy's can colide - Our galaxy(The Milky Way) is actually going to collide with the andromeda galaxy in about 3 billion years, but as this happens the supermassive black holes in galaxies will also collide and here is where things get interesting.

The gravitational forces involved in the collision would be huge, but what would actually happen?

*Waits for Xaos to click on thread*

parkurtommo
They won't collide they'll spin arond eachother. altering time in the area, meaning they won't collide, because time is stuck. There is no time there.

Not exactly, time slows down the closer you get to the event horizon, it doesn't stop. So yes, they would collide. Time may stop once you have passed into the event horizon, but we do not know for sure
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#34 chaoscougar1
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Pretty sure they spin around until they collide, debris flies around and then a new galaxy is formed. I watched the whole space season on Discovery Science 2 or 3 times (some episodes even more times). All galaxies have a super massive black hole in the center that holds everything in a huge orbit around it. Watch more discovery science, really.iskeethunters
It's whats at the centre of the Milky Way ^.^
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#35 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="DeX2010"]

I am very interested in this. We know that Galaxy's can colide - Our galaxy(The Milky Way) is actually going to collide with the andromeda galaxy in about 3 billion years, but as this happens the supermassive black holes in galaxies will also collide and here is where things get interesting.

The gravitational forces involved in the collision would be huge, but what would actually happen?

*Waits for Xaos to click on thread*

chaoscougar1
They won't collide they'll spin arond eachother. altering time in the area, meaning they won't collide, because time is stuck. There is no time there.

Not exactly, time slows down the closer you get to the event horizon, it doesn't stop. So yes, they would collide. Time may stop once you have passed into the event horizon, but we do not know for sure

Well we won't be able to see it happening because we'll be dead before it does :) :P
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#36 iskeethunters
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[QUOTE="iskeethunters"]Pretty sure they spin around until they collide, debris flies around and then a new galaxy is formed. I watched the whole space season on Discovery Science 2 or 3 times (some episodes even more times). All galaxies have a super massive black hole in the center that holds everything in a huge orbit around it. Watch more discovery science, really.chaoscougar1
It's whats at the centre of the Milky Way ^.^

The Milky Way is a galaxy so... yes. That's what I was saying. Just sayin'.
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Microwaves would probably shoot out at the poles as that mass gets compressed.
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#38 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="iskeethunters"]Pretty sure they spin around until they collide, debris flies around and then a new galaxy is formed. I watched the whole space season on Discovery Science 2 or 3 times (some episodes even more times). All galaxies have a super massive black hole in the center that holds everything in a huge orbit around it. Watch more discovery science, really.iskeethunters
It's whats at the centre of the Milky Way ^.^

The Milky Way is a galaxy so... yes. That's what I was saying. Just sayin'.

hmmm That was awfully redundant of me, my bad
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"] They won't collide they'll spin arond eachother. altering time in the area, meaning they won't collide, because time is stuck. There is no time there.

Not exactly, time slows down the closer you get to the event horizon, it doesn't stop. So yes, they would collide. Time may stop once you have passed into the event horizon, but we do not know for sure

Well we won't be able to see it happening because we'll be dead before it does :) :P

What do you mean we would be dead?
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Not exactly, time slows down the closer you get to the event horizon, it doesn't stop. So yes, they would collide. Time may stop once you have passed into the event horizon, but we do not know for sure

Well we won't be able to see it happening because we'll be dead before it does :) :P

What do you mean we would be dead?

It will take a long time to collide lol.
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"] Well we won't be able to see it happening because we'll be dead before it does :) :P

What do you mean we would be dead?

It will take a long time to collide lol.

Yeah, the universe is 13.75 billion years old. If we looked around I am sure we could find at least one colliding at the present time (well the present time to us, it probably happened a couple of billion years ago)
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A big ol mess! all over the ceilings too.
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#43 Dogswithguns
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What the hell is black-hole anyways?!.. sounds like if anything goes in there will be disappear.
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] What do you mean we would be dead?

It will take a long time to collide lol.

Yeah, the universe is 13.75 billion years old. If we looked around I am sure we could find at least one colliding at the present time (well the present time to us, it probably happened a couple of billion years ago)

But we can't see it happening, because time slows down, almost to the point of pausing time, so it's impossible to see the collision.
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They would combine like Voltron and create...Super mega ultra black hole. Its like SS4 except darker and cooler.
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#46 MushroomWig
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Nothing apart from form a bigger black hole. Apparently black hole NEVER die, which is quite scary. Considering the amount of stars in our galaxy alone, there will be a time where black holes will be everywhere.
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Nothing apart from form a bigger black hole. Apparently black hole NEVER die, which is quite scary. Considering the amount of stars in our galaxy alone, there will be a time where black holes will be everywhere.MushroomWig
Actually, small black holes can evaporate due to Hawking radiation :^_^:
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I believe a dance off is customary.
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I believe a dance off is customary.jimmyjammer69
So You Think You Can Dance with the Collapsed Stars?
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]I believe a dance off is customary.xaos
So You Think You Can Dance with the Collapsed Stars?

They had Ellen Degeneres on there, does that count?