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@jun_aka_pekto: I think you missed what I was saying....:(
Actually no. I got called away before I can finish my last post. You're talking about a certain someone in this subforum. I know who it is. But, there was another who was in the opposite extreme who probably got banned.
I think my dad was on to something when he got me a hooker when I was younger and got that mystery out of the way.
As a result, I tended to treat women as "friends" and not like I'm looking for a relationship. Sometimes the friendship matured to a relationship. Sometimes it did not. Now that I'm thinking back, most of my "successes" with women resulted when I started out being friends with them. Starting out as girlfriend/boyfriend never worked at all.
Edit:
Even now after all these years, I still treat my wife as a friend. There's not much sentimental/romantic BS except during a few days of the year.
I don't think Elliot Rogers, the alleged perpetrator of this shooting spree, was evil. I think he was bitter and misguided. In a society where a man's worth is determined by how favorable he is to the opposite sex - and as part of a social species - it's understandable that he became unnervingly frustrated at his inability to connect with women. Also, when you consider how avoidant and condescending women are to men who don't fit the "ideal" man (i.e. tall, masculine and socially aggressive), it's even more understanding why a shorter and socially subtle man like Elliot snapped.
Personally, I blame feminism. If women weren't so elated by our culture, it wouldn't be so ridiculously difficult for "non-ideal" men to connect with them. Imagine having women run away from you because you're a bit quiet and are considered weird. Now, imagine if everyone agreed with such womens' sentiment toward you, blaming you and calling you a loser because of such womens' over-the-top reaction.
Keep in mind that I'm not justifying Elliot's actions, because I think he went too far. I'm merely explaining the reason for them.
It would be very interesting to share your experiences for a day or two. Looking through my own experiences (American Midwestern rural [and later urban] culture with a college education and white collar career) I see no wide-ranging basis for the viewpoints you've expressed here. Can you honestly say that all (or even most) women in your life fit the generalizations you've stated? What kind of experiences have led you to feel/think this way?
Also, when you consider how avoidant and condescending women are to men who don't fit the "ideal" man (i.e. tall, masculine and socially aggressive), it's even more understanding why a shorter and socially subtle man like Elliot snapped.
This is just about the biggest amount of shit I have read here in a LONG time. Congrats m8
Women having this inflated sense of self-worth because of the value society places in their sexual utility and subsequently all or most of them thinking that they're too good for the "non-ideal" guy (i.e. short, not extremely masculine, etc). If it wasn't for this, he would have had been able to connect with women. Sadly, men who aren't considered ideal are labeled as creeps, weirdos, or losers.
This is bullshit. Reality is the opposite of this.
With the advent of birth control, women have been far more liberal with their sexuality. That "non-ideal" shit only exists for marriage or a long term boyfriend, and it's fairly subjective and necessary. Woman are also taking a longer time to get into a stable relationship, and spend a good part of their early adult life experimenting.
Back when there was no birth control, they would look for the "ideal man", because that would be their ONLY man. In essence, if you didn't have good genes, there was a good chance you wouldn't get laid.
I don't think Elliot Rogers, the alleged perpetrator of this shooting spree, was evil. I think he was bitter and misguided. In a society where a man's worth is determined by how favorable he is to the opposite sex - and as part of a social species - it's understandable that he became unnervingly frustrated at his inability to connect with women. Also, when you consider how avoidant and condescending women are to men who don't fit the "ideal" man (i.e. tall, masculine and socially aggressive), it's even more understanding why a shorter and socially subtle man like Elliot snapped.
Personally, I blame feminism. If women weren't so elated by our culture, it wouldn't be so ridiculously difficult for "non-ideal" men to connect with them. Imagine having women run away from you because you're a bit quiet and are considered weird. Now, imagine if everyone agreed with such womens' sentiment toward you, blaming you and calling you a loser because of such womens' over-the-top reaction.
Keep in mind that I'm not justifying Elliot's actions, because I think he went too far. I'm merely explaining the reason for them.
It would be very interesting to share your experiences for a day or two. Looking through my own experiences (American Midwestern rural [and later urban] culture with a college education and white collar career) I see no wide-ranging basis for the viewpoints you've expressed here. Can you honestly say that all (or even most) women in your life fit the generalizations you've stated? What kind of experiences have led you to feel/think this way?
I am the following:
Maybe you're thinking that my lack of a college degree and subsequent lack of a high wage, white collar job is the source of my problems with women, but even by women in my class, I am avoided and "othered."
Women having this inflated sense of self-worth because of the value society places in their sexual utility and subsequently all or most of them thinking that they're too good for the "non-ideal" guy (i.e. short, not extremely masculine, etc). If it wasn't for this, he would have had been able to connect with women. Sadly, men who aren't considered ideal are labeled as creeps, weirdos, or losers.
This is bullshit. Reality is the opposite of this.
With the advent of birth control, women have been far more liberal with their sexuality. That "non-ideal" shit only exists for marriage or a long term boyfriend, and it's fairly subjective and necessary. Woman are also taking a longer time to get into a stable relationship, and spend a good part of their early adult life experimenting.
Back when there was no birth control, they would look for the "ideal man", because that would be their ONLY man. In essence, if you didn't have good genes, there was a good chance you wouldn't get laid.
It should also be noted that Rodgers was not particularly physically unattractive.
If his personality turned girls off, that was entirely his own fault. And when he makes posts on forums about how there needs to be an "incel revolution" and he wants to make women fear him, all the while calling himself a "perfect gentleman," then yeah, that's a creep.
Women having this inflated sense of self-worth because of the value society places in their sexual utility and subsequently all or most of them thinking that they're too good for the "non-ideal" guy (i.e. short, not extremely masculine, etc). If it wasn't for this, he would have had been able to connect with women. Sadly, men who aren't considered ideal are labeled as creeps, weirdos, or losers.
This is bullshit. Reality is the opposite of this.
With the advent of birth control, women have been far more liberal with their sexuality. That "non-ideal" shit only exists for marriage or a long term boyfriend, and it's fairly subjective and necessary. Woman are also taking a longer time to get into a stable relationship, and spend a good part of their early adult life experimenting.
Back when there was no birth control, they would look for the "ideal man", because that would be their ONLY man. In essence, if you didn't have good genes, there was a good chance you wouldn't get laid.
so women are fucking uglier dudes now just because condoms exist?
A culture that revolves around narcicism and the cult for the individual. We are creating self-entitled psychopaths at an alarming rate and encouraging them.
anyways, i don't know if this character if mentally disturbed or just a fucking pussy
the guy is rich and attractive, and probably has mad connections (his dad was an assistant director in the hunger games), but still goes around crying "oh, woe is me, im so ugly, yada yada"
I bet the reason he never was with a girl is because he never tried.......hm idk, talking to them?
Women having this inflated sense of self-worth because of the value society places in their sexual utility and subsequently all or most of them thinking that they're too good for the "non-ideal" guy (i.e. short, not extremely masculine, etc). If it wasn't for this, he would have had been able to connect with women. Sadly, men who aren't considered ideal are labeled as creeps, weirdos, or losers.
This is bullshit. Reality is the opposite of this.
With the advent of birth control, women have been far more liberal with their sexuality. That "non-ideal" shit only exists for marriage or a long term boyfriend, and it's fairly subjective and necessary. Woman are also taking a longer time to get into a stable relationship, and spend a good part of their early adult life experimenting.
Back when there was no birth control, they would look for the "ideal man", because that would be their ONLY man. In essence, if you didn't have good genes, there was a good chance you wouldn't get laid.
It should also be noted that Rodgers was not particularly physically unattractive.
If his personality turned girls off, that was entirely his own fault. And when he makes posts on forums about how there needs to be an "incel revolution" and he wants to make women fear him, all the while calling himself a "perfect gentleman," then yeah, that's a creep.
He was also a high functioning autistic who just didn't have the intuition to effectively communicate, and he blamed his own lack of understanding on other people.
Why do these threads seem to turn into a pity party for BRHD? You are the only one to blame for your social failings and successes. No one else.
Why do these threads seem to turn into a pity party for BRHD? You are the only one to blame for your social failings and successes. No one else.
what's brhd?
Personally, I blame feminism. If women weren't so elated by our culture, it wouldn't be so ridiculously difficult for "non-ideal" men to connect with them. Imagine having women run away from you because you're a bit quiet and are considered weird. Now, imagine if everyone agreed with such womens' sentiment toward you, blaming you and calling you a loser because of such womens' over-the-top reaction.
Maybe the problem isn't women, maybe the problem is guys like you. Its a two way road. Women face the same kind of rejection that men face. You think there aren't women out there getting rejected at every turn by guys because they think they're weird?
This line of thought is such a crock of shit. Blame the woman for not wanting to date a socially awkward weird creeper.
There's someone for everyone out there. Start looking in the right places and you'll find someone who shares you're common interests and mannerisms. Seems like all you've done your entire life is bark up the wrong tree.
Personally, I blame feminism. If women weren't so elated by our culture, it wouldn't be so ridiculously difficult for "non-ideal" men to connect with them. Imagine having women run away from you because you're a bit quiet and are considered weird. Now, imagine if everyone agreed with such womens' sentiment toward you, blaming you and calling you a loser because of such womens' over-the-top reaction.
There's someone for everyone out there.
Keep telling yourself that.
Why is it that every time something like this happens EVERYTHING is blamed EXCEPT for mental illness?
Why do these threads seem to turn into a pity party for BRHD? You are the only one to blame for your social failings and successes. No one else.
Word. BRDH has braids and wonders why he's looked at like a gang banging hoodlum
Cut the braids, man
Why do these threads seem to turn into a pity party for BRHD? You are the only one to blame for your social failings and successes. No one else.
Word. BRDH has braids and wonders why he's looked at like a gang banging hoodlum
Cut the braids, man
Braids have nothing to do with it. I've been getting these reactions since before I had braids; I've had braids for only a year or so.
I think my dad was on to something when he got me a hooker when I was younger and got that mystery out of the way.
best dad ever
i mean, assuming he wasn't cheap about it
Personally, I blame feminism. If women weren't so elated by our culture, it wouldn't be so ridiculously difficult for "non-ideal" men to connect with them. Imagine having women run away from you because you're a bit quiet and are considered weird. Now, imagine if everyone agreed with such womens' sentiment toward you, blaming you and calling you a loser because of such womens' over-the-top reaction.
There's someone for everyone out there.
Keep telling yourself that.
There's no shortage of strange folk on both sides of the aisle.
Why do these threads seem to turn into a pity party for BRHD? You are the only one to blame for your social failings and successes. No one else.
Word. BRDH has braids and wonders why he's looked at like a gang banging hoodlum
Cut the braids, man
Braids have nothing to do with it. I've been getting these reactions since before I had braids; I've had braids for only a year or so.
It's not completely your fault. Women do have high expectations, and a list of criteria most do not fill. You also have a weird personality, I think you know that, so that further hinders your success with women.
This kid was a douche, he actually would have matured into a very good looking man if he had waited till late 20's. His personality was very self-righteous, it's obvious why no women would put up with that. Escorts would have been the best solution for him.
Why do these threads seem to turn into a pity party for BRHD? You are the only one to blame for your social failings and successes. No one else.
Word. BRDH has braids and wonders why he's looked at like a gang banging hoodlum
Cut the braids, man
Braids have nothing to do with it. I've been getting these reactions since before I had braids; I've had braids for only a year or so.
It's not completely your fault. Women do have high expectations, and a list of criteria most do not fill. You also have a weird personality, I think you know that, so that further hinders your success with women.
What makes me weird, in your opinion? Also, am I weird in a bad way?
Has anyone read the guy's manifesto? It's craaaaaaazy.
Sex is by far the most evil concept in existence. The fact that life itself exists through sex just proves that life is flawed. The act of sex gives human beings a tremendous amount of pleasure. Pleasure they don’t deserve. No one deserves to experience so much pleasure, especially since some humans get to experience it while some are denied it. When a man has sex with a beautiful woman, he probably feels like he is in heaven. But the world is not supposed to be heaven. For some humans to actually be able to feel such heights of heavenly pleasure is selfish and hedonistic.
The ultimate evil behind sexuality is the human female. They are the main instigators of sex. They control which men get it and which men don’t. Women are flawed creatures, and my mistreatment at their hands has made me realize this sad truth. There is something very twisted and wrong with the way their brains are wired. They think like beasts, and in truth, they are beasts. Women are incapable of having morals or thinking rationally. They are completely controlled by their depraved emotions and vile sexual impulses. Because of this, the men who do get to experience the pleasures of sex and the privilege of breeding are the men who women are sexually attracted to... the stupid, degenerate, obnoxious men. I have observed this all my life. The most beautiful of women choose to mate with the most brutal of men, instead of magnificent gentlemen like myself.
Women should not have the right to choose who to mate and breed with. That decision should be made for them by rational men of intelligence. If women continue to have rights, they will only hinder the advancement of the human race by breeding with degenerate men and creating stupid, degenerate offspring. This will cause humanity to become even more depraved with each generation. Women have more power in human society than they deserve, all because of sex. There is no creature more evil and depraved than the human female.
Women are like a plague. They don’t deserve to have any rights. Their wickedness must be contained in order prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy. Women are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such.
It's like, let me dust off my fedora.
And then he starts talking about how his ideal society would be him as the ultimate ruler and put women into concentration camps.
I don't think Elliot Rogers, the alleged perpetrator of this shooting spree, was evil. I think he was bitter and misguided. In a society where a man's worth is determined by how favorable he is to the opposite sex - and as part of a social species - it's understandable that he became unnervingly frustrated at his inability to connect with women. Also, when you consider how avoidant and condescending women are to men who don't fit the "ideal" man (i.e. tall, masculine and socially aggressive), it's even more understanding why a shorter and socially subtle man like Elliot snapped.
Personally, I blame feminism. If women weren't so elated by our culture, it wouldn't be so ridiculously difficult for "non-ideal" men to connect with them. Imagine having women run away from you because you're a bit quiet and are considered weird. Now, imagine if everyone agreed with such womens' sentiment toward you, blaming you and calling you a loser because of such womens' over-the-top reaction.
Keep in mind that I'm not justifying Elliot's actions, because I think he went too far. I'm merely explaining the reason for them.
It would be very interesting to share your experiences for a day or two. Looking through my own experiences (American Midwestern rural [and later urban] culture with a college education and white collar career) I see no wide-ranging basis for the viewpoints you've expressed here. Can you honestly say that all (or even most) women in your life fit the generalizations you've stated? What kind of experiences have led you to feel/think this way?
I am the following:
Maybe you're thinking that my lack of a college degree and subsequent lack of a high wage, white collar job is the source of my problems with women, but even by women in my class, I am avoided and "othered."
I'm actually not looking for a source of your problems with women as, in my experience, even someone with absolutely zero fortune in relationships would have exposure to better people through other means - friends, family, etc. So, basically, I'm looking more for why you seem to have a different exposure through your friends, family, and other acquaintances - for why the other women in your life haven't given you a more positive sense of themselves.
I didn't articulate that very well, for which I apologize, but I hope you catch my drift.
For what it's worth, a significant number of my friends and acquaintances aren't your typical alpha male (I work in IT for heaven's sake :P Also, I tend to meet and befriend people from widely varying backgrounds for some reason. ). I'm wondering if you'd be well served to broaden your exposure - meet some new friends in different settings, perhaps.
Has anyone read the guy's manifesto? It's craaaaaaazy.
Sex is by far the most evil concept in existence. The fact that life itself exists through sex just proves that life is flawed. The act of sex gives human beings a tremendous amount of pleasure. Pleasure they don’t deserve. No one deserves to experience so much pleasure, especially since some humans get to experience it while some are denied it. When a man has sex with a beautiful woman, he probably feels like he is in heaven. But the world is not supposed to be heaven. For some humans to actually be able to feel such heights of heavenly pleasure is selfish and hedonistic.
The ultimate evil behind sexuality is the human female. They are the main instigators of sex. They control which men get it and which men don’t. Women are flawed creatures, and my mistreatment at their hands has made me realize this sad truth. There is something very twisted and wrong with the way their brains are wired. They think like beasts, and in truth, they are beasts. Women are incapable of having morals or thinking rationally. They are completely controlled by their depraved emotions and vile sexual impulses. Because of this, the men who do get to experience the pleasures of sex and the privilege of breeding are the men who women are sexually attracted to... the stupid, degenerate, obnoxious men. I have observed this all my life. The most beautiful of women choose to mate with the most brutal of men, instead of magnificent gentlemen like myself.
Women should not have the right to choose who to mate and breed with. That decision should be made for them by rational men of intelligence. If women continue to have rights, they will only hinder the advancement of the human race by breeding with degenerate men and creating stupid, degenerate offspring. This will cause humanity to become even more depraved with each generation. Women have more power in human society than they deserve, all because of sex. There is no creature more evil and depraved than the human female.
Women are like a plague. They don’t deserve to have any rights. Their wickedness must be contained in order prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy. Women are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such.
It's like, let me dust off my fedora.
And then he starts talking about how his ideal society would be him as the ultimate ruler and put women into concentration camps.
I can't lie. That is an amazing read. I agree with everything he said.
@BluRayHiDef: Then you're crazy. I mean, do you agree with the very next thing he wrote?
In fully realizing these truths about the world, I have created the ultimate and perfect ideology of how a fair and pure world would work. In an ideal world, sexuality would not exist. It must be outlawed. In a world without sex, humanity will be pure and civilized. Men will grow up healthily, without having to worry about such a barbaric act. All men will grow up fair and equal, because no man will be able to experience the pleasures of sex while others are denied it. The human race will evolve to an entirely new level of civilization, completely devoid of all the impurity and degeneracy that exists today.
In order to completely abolish sex, women themselves would have to be abolished. All women must be quarantined like the plague they are, so that they can be used in a manner that actually benefits a civilized society. In order carry this out, there must exist a new and powerful type of government, under the control of one divine ruler, such as myself. The ruler that establishes this new order would have complete control over every aspect of society, in order to direct it towards a good and pure place. At the disposal of this government, there needs to be a highly trained army of fanatically loyal troops, in order to enforce such revolutionary laws.
The first strike against women will be to quarantine all of them in concentration camps. At these camps, the vast majority of the female population will be deliberately starved to death. That would be an efficient and fitting way to kill them all off. I would take great pleasure and satisfaction in condemning every single woman on earth to starve to death. I would have an enormous tower built just for myself, where I can oversee the entire concentration camp and gleefully watch them all die. If I can’t have them, no one will, I’d imagine thinking to myself as I oversee this. Women represent everything that is unfair with this world, and in order to make the world a fair place, they must all be eradicated.
Why is it that every time something like this happens EVERYTHING is blamed EXCEPT for mental illness?
This makes sense.The killer is still not at complete fault,you don't know what your doing when you are mentally ill.
Has anyone read the guy's manifesto? It's craaaaaaazy.
Sex is by far the most evil concept in existence. The fact that life itself exists through sex just proves that life is flawed. The act of sex gives human beings a tremendous amount of pleasure. Pleasure they don’t deserve. No one deserves to experience so much pleasure, especially since some humans get to experience it while some are denied it. When a man has sex with a beautiful woman, he probably feels like he is in heaven. But the world is not supposed to be heaven. For some humans to actually be able to feel such heights of heavenly pleasure is selfish and hedonistic.
The ultimate evil behind sexuality is the human female. They are the main instigators of sex. They control which men get it and which men don’t. Women are flawed creatures, and my mistreatment at their hands has made me realize this sad truth. There is something very twisted and wrong with the way their brains are wired. They think like beasts, and in truth, they are beasts. Women are incapable of having morals or thinking rationally. They are completely controlled by their depraved emotions and vile sexual impulses. Because of this, the men who do get to experience the pleasures of sex and the privilege of breeding are the men who women are sexually attracted to... the stupid, degenerate, obnoxious men. I have observed this all my life. The most beautiful of women choose to mate with the most brutal of men, instead of magnificent gentlemen like myself.
Women should not have the right to choose who to mate and breed with. That decision should be made for them by rational men of intelligence. If women continue to have rights, they will only hinder the advancement of the human race by breeding with degenerate men and creating stupid, degenerate offspring. This will cause humanity to become even more depraved with each generation. Women have more power in human society than they deserve, all because of sex. There is no creature more evil and depraved than the human female.
Women are like a plague. They don’t deserve to have any rights. Their wickedness must be contained in order prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy. Women are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such.
It's like, let me dust off my fedora.
And then he starts talking about how his ideal society would be him as the ultimate ruler and put women into concentration camps.
I can't lie. That is an amazing read. I agree with everything he said.
Time to pull the plug on this. And for those whose viewpoints about women lean toward the misogynistic, you might want to keep it to yourselves.
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