The United States vs The United Kingdom

A lot of people, particularly Americans, say that the U.S. is the greatest country on Earth. Do you agree or disagree with this statement? I believe that The United States is overrated, and that The United Kingdom is a better country. The following are my reasons:

• College education is less expensive in the U.K. and is highly subsidized, unlike in the United States where tuition prices can exceed $40,000 per year, and where most colleges are privatized. Why should something so necessary be private and expensive, and subsequently unattainable or impractically attainable for most people?
• Medical Coverage is highly subsidized in the U.K. In fact, as far as I know, EVERY U.K. Citizen has medical coverage. On the other hand, in the U.S., unless a person has medical coverage, they can wind up paying tens of thousands of dollars on medical bills. What a shame. You might be thinking "But what about Medicaid and Medicare?" As far as I know, the public health insurance companies under these two systems can deny coverage for certain medical needs (certain surgeries because they're too expensive or are considered cosmetic), whereas in the U.K. this is less likely or not likely to happen.
• The United States' debt is a wopping $15 trillion dollars, which is 102% of its GDP, while that of the U.K. is £1,278.2 billion, which is 85% of its GDP.
• The U.K. doesn't have a host of its millitary personnel stationed in other countries indefinitely and doesn't have a habit of sticking its nose in the business of other countries.
• The U.S.'s gun laws are too lax. Every citizen should not have the right to a firearm; it simply leads to too many gun-assaults and homicides. Furthermore, the U.S.'s police force uses guns, which is why there are always cases in which police use excessive (fatal) force against suspects when they do not have to. On the other hand, in the U.K., gun laws are more strict and most police officers do not use guns (yet they are very effective at their job).
• Skins

Anyhow, what are your thoughts? Discuss. By the way, I'm an American citizen.

The greatest country is Lebanon,we made the Tabboolleh,and Frame_Dragger likes Tabboolleh =DFMAB_GTO

Broth are great places to live but I'm of course gonna go with the US.

While I think that our healthcare and education system is superior, I do think we lack the opportunities career wise which are far more readily available in the U.S.

Also we don't have mountain dew. Not the proper stuff anyway. Hmpff.

UK because I don't want to get shot.

If I can choose wherever I want to live, I'd go for Canada.

While I think that our healthcare and education system is superior, I do think we lack the opportunities career wise which are far more readily available in the U.S.

Also we don't have mountain dew. Not the proper stuff anyway. Hmpff.

tomo90

That stuff is delicious! :D

UK because I don't want to get shot.

If I can choose whereever I want to live, I'd go for Canada.

GamerwillzPS

Thanks for the heads-up. I'm going to edit the OP to include U.K.'s ban on guns and the fact that most of its police force doesn''t use guns, unlike here in the U.S..

While I think that our healthcare and education system is superior, I do think we lack the opportunities career wise which are far more readily available in the U.S.

Also we don't have mountain dew. Not the proper stuff anyway. Hmpff.

tomo90

The US is only overrated if it can't get out of the hole it's dug for itself.BranKetra

It won't.

• The U.K. doesn't have a habit of sticking its nose in the business of other countries.

BluRayHiDef

Bwhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaahahahahahhaha.:lol::lol::lol:

Ok.

You brits don't have poptarts either.

Pirate700

And they call themselves "civilized".

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]The US is only overrated if it can't get out of the hole it's dug for itself.Optical_Order

It won't.

[QUOTE="Optical_Order"]

[QUOTE="BranKetra"]The US is only overrated if it can't get out of the hole it's dug for itself.BranKetra

It won't.

Cheers :P

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

• The U.K. doesn't have a habit of sticking its nose in the business of other countries.

Storm_Marine

Bwhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaahahahahahhaha.:lol::lol::lol:

Ok.

I'm talking about modern U.K..

• The U.K. doesn't have a host of its millitary personnel stationed in other countries indefinitely and doesn't have a habit of sticking its nose in the business of other countries.
• The U.S.'s gun laws are too lax. Every citizen should not have the right to a firearm; it simply leads to too many gun-assaults and homicides. Furthermore, the U.S.'s police force uses guns, which is why there are always cases in which police use excessive (fatal) force against suspects when they do not have to. On the other hand, in the U.K., gun laws are more strict and most police officers do not use guns (yet they are very effective at their job).

BluRayHiDef

I lol'd.

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

• The U.K. doesn't have a habit of sticking its nose in the business of other countries.

BluRayHiDef

Bwhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaahahahahahhaha.:lol::lol::lol:

Ok.

I'm talking about modern U.K..

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

• The U.K. doesn't have a habit of sticking its nose in the business of other countries.

BluRayHiDef

Bwhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaahahahahahhaha.:lol::lol::lol:

Ok.

I'm talking about modern U.K..

:lol::lol:

Ok ok, if you say so.:lol:

So BR, are you willing to pay an increase in your payroll taxes to help subsidize medical and college needs? We are talking a 30% increase at least.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

• The U.K. doesn't have a habit of sticking its nose in the business of other countries.

BluRayHiDef

Bwhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaahahahahahhaha.:lol::lol::lol:

Ok.

I'm talking about modern U.K..

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Bwhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaahahahahahhaha.:lol::lol::lol:

Ok.

Storm_Marine

I'm talking about modern U.K..

:lol::lol:

Ok ok, if you say so.:lol:

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Bwhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaahahahahahhaha.:lol::lol::lol:

Ok.

Pirate700

I'm talking about modern U.K..

I'm aware that the U.K. has military personnel stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and perhaps a few other countries, but I doubt it's as many as the United States. Furthermore, those in Iraq and Afghanistan are in those two countries because the U.S. duped the U.K. into providing assistance, so it's the U.S.'s fault. Furthermore, what recent wars has the U.K. started recently?

I'm from the UK but whilst England is alright I'd much rather live in the States. =P

Actors from th UK are better looking. (mostly)

His whole list is complete crap so I'm assuming he just doesn't know anything about the UK.

Pirate700

You don't need to assume.

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

I'm talking about modern U.K..

BluRayHiDef

I'm aware that the U.K. has military personnel stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and perhaps a few other countries, but I doubt it's as many as the United States. Furthermore, those in Iraq and Afghanistan are in those two countries because the U.S. duped the U.K. into providing assistance, so it's the U.S.'s fault. Furthermore, what recent wars has the U.K. started recently?

So BR, are you willing to pay an increase in your payroll taxes to help subsidize medical and college needs? We are talking a 30% increase at least.

WhiteKnight77

I would imagine that the cost of living is low enough such that the high tax rate does not affect one's ability to live life confortably, unlike here in the States where people are struggling to get by.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

I'm talking about modern U.K..

BluRayHiDef

I'm aware that the U.K. has military personnel stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and perhaps a few other countries, but I doubt it's as many as the United States. Furthermore, those in Iraq and Afghanistan are in those two countries because the U.S. duped the U.K. into providing assistance, so it's the U.S.'s fault. Furthermore, what recent wars has the U.K. started recently?

Well, actually there are UK military bases around Europe - Italy, France, etc and somewhere else in the world. There are some in the US, and I've seen some Royal Air Force fighter jets flying in the US airspace.

His whole list is complete crap so I'm assuming he just doesn't know anything about the UK.

Pirate700

My entire list is crap? Really? So the parts about U.K.'s college system and medical coverage system are lies?

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]I can't tell if you're being serous or not...

GamerwillzPS

I'm aware that the U.K. has military personnel stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and perhaps a few other countries, but I doubt it's as many as the United States. Furthermore, those in Iraq and Afghanistan are in those two countries because the U.S. duped the U.K. into providing assistance, so it's the U.S.'s fault. Furthermore, what recent wars has the U.K. started recently?

Well, actually there are UK military bases around Europe - Italy, France, etc and somewhere else in the world. There are some in the US, and I've seen some Royal Air Force fighter jets flying in the US airspace.

Okay. I'll admit that I'm wrong about this matter. However, my points about U.K's medical coverage and college system are true and are the most important.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

His whole list is complete crap so I'm assuming he just doesn't know anything about the UK.

Stevo_the_gamer

You don't need to assume.

[QUOTE="GamerwillzPS"]

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

I'm aware that the U.K. has military personnel stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and perhaps a few other countries, but I doubt it's as many as the United States. Furthermore, those in Iraq and Afghanistan are in those two countries because the U.S. duped the U.K. into providing assistance, so it's the U.S.'s fault. Furthermore, what recent wars has the U.K. started recently?

BluRayHiDef

Well, actually there are UK military bases around Europe - Italy, France, etc and somewhere else in the world. There are some in the US, and I've seen some Royal Air Force fighter jets flying in the US airspace.

Okay. I'll admit that I'm wrong about this matter. However, my points about U.K's medical coverage and college system are true and are the most important.

Having bases in friendly countries I don't really think counts. We're not in Italy against the Italians wishes. Plus there are foreign armed services stationed in the UK too.

[QUOTE="tomo90"]

While I think that our healthcare and education system is superior, I do think we lack the opportunities career wise which are far more readily available in the U.S.

Also we don't have mountain dew. Not the proper stuff anyway. Hmpff.

Pirate700

So BR, are you willing to pay an increase in your payroll taxes to help subsidize medical and college needs? We are talking a 30% increase at least.

WhiteKnight77

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

• College education is less expensive in the U.K. and is highly subsidized, unlike in the United States where tuition prices can exceed $40,000 per year, and where most colleges are privatized. Why should something so necessary be private and expensive, and subsequently unattainable or impractically attainable for most people?

toast_burner

Didn't you hear? they trippled tuition fees. it's now £9000 ($14000) a year

That's still considerably cheaper than the tuition fees here in the U.S..

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[QUOTE="tomo90"]

While I think that our healthcare and education system is superior, I do think we lack the opportunities career wise which are far more readily available in the U.S.

Also we don't have mountain dew. Not the proper stuff anyway. Hmpff.

Hexagon_777

US because they don't block piratebayNerubianWeaver

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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

• College education is less expensive in the U.K. and is highly subsidized, unlike in the United States where tuition prices can exceed $40,000 per year, and where most colleges are privatized. Why should something so necessary be private and expensive, and subsequently unattainable or impractically attainable for most people?

BluRayHiDef

Didn't you hear? they trippled tuition fees. it's now £9000 ($14000) a year

That's still considerably cheaper than the tuition fees here in the U.S..

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

So BR, are you willing to pay an increase in your payroll taxes to help subsidize medical and college needs? We are talking a 30% increase at least.

BluRayHiDef

I would imagine that the cost of living is low enough such that the high tax rate does not affect one's ability to live life confortably, unlike here in the States where people are struggling to get by.

Gas in the UK runs about $9 gallon. That would be more than double what we pay in the US. It might even be more now compared to what it was when I was over there.

[QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"]US because they don't block piratebayHexagon_777

How about Sweden? I hear that they have a kick-ass education system and quality of life.

Both have crappy food (the British have THE WORST food, of course)... So, I'm going with the country that gave us Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Venom, Iron Maiden and all that good stuff.