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#1  Edited By LexLas
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Well this case is only going to get bigger on the media. She is 24, and her student was 13. I have to say she's nuts. Why would she want to have a relationship with a 13 year old boy ? And the students parents were ok with this ? They knew about the relationship, and they had no problem ? What ! At one point he got her pregnant. Wowee !

I would be furious as a parent. I think there is obviously something wrong with her.

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#2 Master_Live
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In January, Vera said she discovered the boy had gotten her pregnant. When the couple told the boy’s family, according to the teacher, they were ecstatic and supportive.

His parents had known about the relationship since October, Vera told police, when they came to the school for an open house. Afterward, she was invited back to their home and introduced to the family as the boy’s girlfriend, documents say. They were “accepting of the relationship,” Vera told police, and she was welcomed to family gatherings thereafter.

Things began to deteriorate in February, when an unannounced visit and questioning from Child Protective Services about the relationship spooked her. Vera denied the relationship and the pregnancy at the time, documents say, then chose to abort the baby. She did, however, hand over her cellphone and gave police permission to search it.

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#3  Edited By Master_Live
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Regarding her, grrrrrrrrrrr, meow!

We know how this thread will go so lets get to the part where we say that if the roles were reversed there would be an even bigger outrage. The kid couldn't (legally) consent so throw her in jail.

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#5 LexLas
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@InEMplease said:

Those are some terrible, terrible parents, and she's clearly a psycho. Strap them to a rocket and send them to the moon where they came from!

Exactly, i just don't get how parents are ok with this ? They might get some sort of punishment too the court says because they did not report it. She does look young for a teacher, physically i mean.

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#6 Sweetbackhair
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2 things that blow my mind about this article.

1. She was ok with having sex with a 13 year old as if this was normal and he got her pregnant.

2. The parents are ok with this and was supportive about the whole situation. What the hell is wrong with them?!

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Niiice

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#8 Master_Live
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Nah, the thing that gets me is that apparently she was going to actually have the baby of this 8th grader with the support of the boy's parents and only decided to abort the child after being questioned by Child Protective Services. That's fucked up.

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#9  Edited By Renevent42
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All I can say is at 13 I would have been totally fine with it.

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#10 horgen  Moderator
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I don't know what I find most messed up about this.

The kids parents being supportive of this... She found it okay to sleep with a 13 year... And have his baby... Only to abort it after child protective services show up.

It's like winning a lottery I guess. You have one with no problems being with someone who is 10+ years younger, a minor, and his parents accept and supports it.

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#12 thehig1
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@InEMplease: what's the twist ?

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#13  Edited By Master_Live
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@Renevent42 said:

All I can say is at 13 I would have been totally fine with it.

Me too.

Spanish teacher.

I'm just talking about myself specifically so don't get your jimmies up OT.

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#14 Renevent42
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The aborted baby is now a ghost.

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#15 angeldeb82
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This reminds me of the Rod Stewart song "Maggie May", in which a boy has relations with a woman who is older than him while he is missing school, as the lyrics describe.

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#16  Edited By sayyy-gaa
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She must go to jail. Law is the law. What kind of parents are ok with it. Furthermore, these things ALWAYS end badly. You have a relationship with one of your students and you think you can keep it a secret? His classmates, the faculty, etc. will always blow the whistle.

And the kid was in the eighth grade. You were gonna keep it a secret in a public high school for 4 years. Put her in jail.

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All kinds of f'd up that makes me question every single detail of this story. No, I'm not doubting the story itself but rather the logic of everyone's decisions.

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#19  Edited By tremssurre
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@Master_Live said:

Regarding her, grrrrrrrrrrr, meow!

We know how this thread will go so lets get to the part where we say that if the roles were reversed there would be an even bigger outrage. The kid couldn't (legally) consent so throw her in jail.

yes, no doubt

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All i can contribute to this, is this stern dissaproving look.

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@Renevent42 said:

All I can say is at 13 I would have been totally fine with it.

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#22 indzman
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This Incident reminds me of below ADAM SANDLER movie :P

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#24 PSP107
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@drunk_pi: "No, I'm not doubting the story itself"

Nah, you should doubt this story. I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't the 13 year old who got her pregnant.

@LexLas:

That side by side pic is the same person?

Anyway, $100,000 bond? Who bailed her out?

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All I'm gonna say is, I have done similar stuff like this when I was 13 and I'm gonna leave it just like that.

Want my answer to this thread, I support this. (Don't bother quoting me on this)

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#26 Kruiz_Bathory
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@Master_Live: quieres que te enseñe algo? Imagine the teacher saying that to you.

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#27 AFBrat77
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Good for him.

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#28 Master_Live
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@Kruiz_Bathory said:

@Master_Live: quieres que te enseñe algo? Imagine the teacher saying that to you.

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#29 Kruiz_Bathory
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@Master_Live: that's what happens everyday in third wolrd countries. Lol I love that gif.

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@thehig1 said:

Niiice

I understood that reference. I almost choked on my snack.

Anyway... It baffles me why the parents would support this. It's setting a bad precedent for their kid. What's he going to do when the teacher goes to jail?

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@metalman0616 said:
@thehig1 said:

Niiice

I understood that reference. I almost choked on my snack.

Anyway... It baffles me why the parents would support this. It's setting a bad precedent for their kid. What's he going to do when the teacher goes to jail?

he will experience blue balls much earlier in life than most.

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@thehig1 said:

@InEMplease: what's the twist ?

The teacher is Bruce Willis in a wig played by Mel Gibson.

Damm, thats a shalliman twist :D

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To my knowledge, I have met gay people who claimed to have sex while he was 4th grade. So, it is not that strange. I don't see why people are so judging. It is their business. It has nothing to do with us.

The only issue here is just legal consequences. They should be careful with this because the legal system isn't free enough to tolerate young intimate relationships. Until the law becomes less strict, they need to make sure they don't break any law.

A lot of laws were oppressive. The laws were once pit against gay people in the name of "morality". A law is still a law, but, don't act like the law is justice when you "feel" someone is disgusting. Aside from abortion, which should be considered, they are not hurting anyone else. Using a law book as basis of your moral value is not much different than following a bible.

So your logic is that the only problem here is that it's against the law? The teacher-student relationship doesn't bother you? Or the adult-child relationship? The parents consenting is ok with you as well?

And your last sentence? First of all I am a proponent of using the Holy Bible as a moral compass. Matter of fact it IS my moral compass. Putting that to the side however, how else are civilized people in a free country with varying beliefs going to come to a consensus regarding some basic morals if not by the law? Coin flips?

Far more issues here than just legal consequences.

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#33 GenosectKing
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As the cops in South Park would say: "Nice"

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#34 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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If this was a guy having sex with a 13 yo girl, you guys would be calling for the hangman's noose.

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Man, why didn't cool shit like this ever happen when I was in school.

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Man, why didn't cool shit like this ever happen when I was in school.

Back in my days, if you actually met the right teacher, you can go to pretty dark places but shit like that was rare to come by, I was one lucky kid back then.

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#37 ReadingRainbow4
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@davillain- said:
@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Man, why didn't cool shit like this ever happen when I was in school.

Back in my days, if you actually met the right teacher, you can go to pretty dark places but shit like that was rare to come by, I was one lucky kid back then.

I guess so, none of my teachers were exactly hot anyway.

I had student aids check me out, but it never went anywhere. :0

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#39  Edited By raugutcon
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@Master_Live said:
@Kruiz_Bathory said:

@Master_Live: quieres que te enseñe algo? Imagine the teacher saying that to you.

Imagine the teacher no, imagine THAT teechur saying that to you ----> hell yes ! Enseñame lo que quieras mamacita.

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#40 Master_Live
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@magicalclick said:

@sayyy-gaa: No. There is nothing morally wrong with that. The so-called violation of morality is purely artificial based on a person's own "feeling" typically brainwashed by society, law books, religious books, and etc..

The only morally wrong is abortion. Because they killed a life due to negligence. It is like cooking a baby in a car unattended.

I say this because a lot of things are not morally wrong at all. It is just the society intolerant to things they find disgusting. And there were tons of oppressions acted to those "freaks" back in the days, which now becomes normal or even a trend.

A lot of those oppressive "morality" are now called bigotry in our time. Our current acceptable oppressive "modality" will eventually becomes bigotry as well.

Morally should NEVER be based on majority rule. That's oppressive against the minority.

Yes, there are laws we follow to maintain order. And we need to follow the laws and improve the laws as society grows. But, they do not define morality.

So where do you personally draw the line age wise?

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#41 LexLas
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Man, why didn't cool shit like this ever happen when I was in school.

Maybe cause you had a normal class, and they were interested in their own aged classmates ? I mean who's interested in the teacher, when there are hot girls in the class. I keep thinking they must have had the ugliest classmates girls ever, lol ..

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#43 Master_Live
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@magicalclick said:

@Master_Live: For law? Or for morality?

For your own morality.

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13 year old me is perfectly fine with this. I think I hit puberty around 12, saw my first porn around then so I got a really bad sense of what sex was...so yeah, I approve! :D

Funny because if you go to the link provided to her facebook, there is a really young looking guy in some of the photos with what looks to be a very poor attempt at a mustache and goatee; I'm wondering if that is the kid. Some guys mature very very young physically so it would not be unrealistic, but not surprising, for the kid to maybe look a bit older than he is.

Only screwed up thing here is the parents' reaction lol.

Seriously though, provided it was consensual, I don't think cases like this are as damaging as people might think. I mean yeah kids are still growing, especially mentally, but sex is just sex and provided it's not rape or some sort of mind game where the older person coerces them, not a big deal imo.

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#46  Edited By LexLas
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@mrbojangles25 said:

13 year old me is perfectly fine with this. I think I hit puberty around 12, saw my first porn around then so I got a really bad sense of what sex was...so yeah, I approve! :D

Funny because if you go to the link provided to her facebook, there is a really young looking guy in some of the photos with what looks to be a very poor attempt at a mustache and goatee; I'm wondering if that is the kid. Some guys mature very very young physically so it would not be unrealistic, but not surprising, for the kid to maybe look a bit older than he is.

Only screwed up thing here is the parents' reaction lol.

Seriously though, provided it was consensual, I don't think cases like this are as damaging as people might think. I mean yeah kids are still growing, especially mentally, but sex is just sex and provided it's not rape or some sort of mind game where the older person coerces them, not a big deal imo.

Sex is just sex until there are consequences, and there there were consequences. Part of being an adult, it knowing where to draw the line. I have myself passed on it several time due to consequences. Consequences are everything to an adult, which she was. Especially being a teacher, the responsibility is enormous.

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@thehig1 said:

Niiice

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice!!!!

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#48  Edited By Master_Live
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@magicalclick said:

@Master_Live:

Morality only.

The relationship and sexual activity all depends are the people who directly affected. If they are happy without abuse and without favoritism, it is not my call. There is no line from my end. Age is but a number.

Killing the fetus is wrong. That violates morality because of the killing.

So earlier you said you have met people that have claimed they had sex while they where in 4th grade. Is this acceptable to you? In 4th grade I was about 10 years old.

I guess what I'm trying to understand is how do you define when a kid is actually being abused? And what do you mean by " without favoritism"? Would you be ok if your 10 year old son/daughter had sex with a 35 year old if your kid claimed he/she was "happy"?

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#49  Edited By deeliman
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@magicalclick said:

@Master_Live:

Morality only.

The relationship and sexual activity all depends are the people who directly affected. If they are happy without abuse and without favoritism, it is not my call. There is no line from my end. Age is but a number.

Killing the fetus is wrong. That violates morality because of the killing.

So, basically, this means you also approve of pedophilia? If you had a 4 year old daughter and someone had sex with her, would you be ok with it if she seemed to enjoy herself? I can't fathom how someone could hold such a reprehensible opinion.