Syria conflict: 'Chemical attacks kill hundreds'

 

Chemical weapons attacks have killed hundreds on the outskirts of Damascus, Syrian opposition activists say.

Rockets with toxic agents were launched at the suburbs of the Ghouta region early on Wednesday as part of a major bombardment on rebel forces, they say.

The Syrian army says the accusations have been fabricated to cover up rebel losses.

The main opposition alliance said that more than 1,000 people were killed by the attacks.

Activist networks also reported death tolls in the hundreds, but these could not be independently confirmed.

 

BBC News

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23777201

Here we go.

[QUOTE="BBC News"]

 

Chemical weapons attacks have killed hundreds on the outskirts of Damascus, Syrian opposition activists say.

Rockets with toxic agents were launched at the suburbs of the Ghouta region early on Wednesday as part of a major bombardment on rebel forces, they say.

The Syrian army says the accusations have been fabricated to cover up rebel losses.

The main opposition alliance said that more than 1,000 people were killed by the attacks.

Activist networks also reported death tolls in the hundreds, but these could not be independently confirmed.

 

clyde46

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23777201

Here we go.

amirite barry?

It's about 102,000 dead people already, right?Hiddai

It's about 102,000 dead people already, right?Hiddai

[QUOTE="Hiddai"]It's about 102,000 dead people already, right?BossPerson

Also the US better start helping the rebels before they fall apart. The "alliance" between the FSA and extremists is a time bomb.

who am I supposed to hate in this conflict?

who am I supposed to hate in this conflict?

lostrib

who am I supposed to hate in this conflict?

lostrib

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

who am I supposed to hate in this conflict?

BossPerson

i think i can do that.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

who am I supposed to hate in this conflict?

sherman-tank1

When I saw the news it seemed like a lot of the deaths were akin to something like suffocation. In that sense they could be right, CO2 is a chemical (lol).

Let's see how good ole Barry and Vlad work this out.

Also the US better start helping the rebels before they fall apart. The "alliance" between the FSA and extremists is a time bomb.

sherman-tank1

The US should stay the fvck out of it.

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

Also the US better start helping the rebels before they fall apart. The "alliance" between the FSA and extremists is a time bomb.

DrKillByDeath84

The US should stay the fvck out of it.

Also the US better start helping the rebels before they fall apart. The "alliance" between the FSA and extremists is a time bomb.

sherman-tank1

I don't want them to help the rebels. They are backed by Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood (if I've read correctly). They would be just as bad for the country.

This isn't a black and white case of good vs. evil. In my opinon both major factions suck. There are also dozens of smaller factions. It's a mess.

The US should stay out of it. Whoever wins that war the people are going ot lose. I would prefer the US to not bother trying to fix a part of the world which refuses to fix itself. We tried that, it doesn't work.

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

who am I supposed to hate in this conflict?

Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

Also the US better start helping the rebels before they fall apart. The "alliance" between the FSA and extremists is a time bomb.

Wasdie

I don't want them to help the rebels. They are backed by Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood (if I've read correctly). They would be just as bad for the country.

This isn't a black and white case of good vs. evil. In my opinon both major factions suck. There are also dozens of smaller factions. It's a mess.

The US should stay out of it. Whoever wins that war the people are going ot lose. I would prefer the US to not bother trying to fix a part of the world which refuses to fix itself. We tried that, it doesn't work.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]The only decent factions seem to be the Free Syrian Army and the Kurds. The extremists, the government, and Hezbollah have been commiting horrific acts.

sherman-tank1

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

Also the US better start helping the rebels before they fall apart. The "alliance" between the FSA and extremists is a time bomb.

sherman-tank1

I don't want them to help the rebels. They are backed by Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood (if I've read correctly). They would be just as bad for the country.

This isn't a black and white case of good vs. evil. In my opinon both major factions suck. There are also dozens of smaller factions. It's a mess.

The US should stay out of it. Whoever wins that war the people are going ot lose. I would prefer the US to not bother trying to fix a part of the world which refuses to fix itself. We tried that, it doesn't work.

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

I don't want them to help the rebels. They are backed by Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood (if I've read correctly). They would be just as bad for the country.

This isn't a black and white case of good vs. evil. In my opinon both major factions suck. There are also dozens of smaller factions. It's a mess.

The US should stay out of it. Whoever wins that war the people are going ot lose. I would prefer the US to not bother trying to fix a part of the world which refuses to fix itself. We tried that, it doesn't work.

BossPerson

honestly, IMO the US should help the rebels out, but only to a point where they can continue the fight without being able to win. this isn't humane obviously but since both sides of the conflict suck, it will keep them busy killing each other for a long time which i think is a good thing.

I find it hard to believe that America or Israel have absolutely zero idea of where Assad is living, hiding and that they lack the means to to take him out without any losses at all from their end. BossPerson

honestly, IMO the US should help the rebels out, but only to a point where they can continue the fight without being able to win. this isn't humane obviously but since both sides of the conflict suck, it will keep them busy killing each other for a long time which i think is a good thing.

VaguelyTagged

I find it hard to believe that America or Israel have absolutely zero idea of where Assad is living, hiding and that they lack the means to to take him out without any losses at all from their end. BossPerson

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]I find it hard to believe that America or Israel have absolutely zero idea of where Assad is living, hiding and that they lack the means to to take him out without any losses at all from their end. Engrish_Major

I find it hard to believe that America or Israel have absolutely zero idea of where Assad is living, hiding and that they lack the means to to take him out without any losses at all from their end. BossPerson

Why should America or Israel get involved? The world hates both of them enough as it is.

honestly, IMO the US should help the rebels out, but only to a point where they can continue the fight without being able to win. this isn't humane obviously but since both sides of the conflict suck, it will keep them busy killing each other for a long time which i think is a good thing.

VaguelyTagged

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]I find it hard to believe that America or Israel have absolutely zero idea of where Assad is living, hiding and that they lack the means to to take him out without any losses at all from their end. Wasdie

Why should America or Israel get involved? The world hates both of them enough as it is.

they know where Snowden is, they knew where Osama was in Tora Bora and as for that mafioso, the resources that they send to find international political figures dwarf the resources that they'd send after some organized crime bossBossPerson

They tried to get Osama in Tora Bora but the environment is absolute hell. I've talked to people who fought there, they said that you cannot possible get an organized force through there in any sort of a timely fashion. Add in tons of Taliban and Al Qaeda resistance and you are bascially fought to a stand still every 20 meters.

All of the tech in the world cannot make up for that hellish terrain. They were closing in on him but it's much easier for lightly armed men to move around in unorganized numbers than for the convientional army of the US to move through it. Those battles prompted a ton of changes within the US military. 

Today the US military would probably do much better in that terrain, but in the mid early and mid 2000s they didn't have the training, equipment, or experience to deal with that terrain. Today the US military is really scary. 10+ years of counter insurgency will do that to any fighting force.

those people are ****ed no matter what they do.

It is a sad, sad, sad situation :(  Only worsened by the fact that in order to help, you have to pick a side.

I don't know, maybe it is best that they do all kill eachother?  I don't really believe that, but hell maybe if all the idiots kill eachother, the peaceful people will come out from the shelter and lead.

Then again, I just read ElBaradei pretty much gave up on Egypt so even the wisest and most hopeful have their limit.

I find it hard to believe that America or Israel have absolutely zero idea of where Assad is living, hiding and that they lack the means to to take him out without any losses at all from their end. BossPerson

We need solid snake now more than ever.

[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"]

honestly, IMO the US should help the rebels out, but only to a point where they can continue the fight without being able to win. this isn't humane obviously but since both sides of the conflict suck, it will keep them busy killing each other for a long time which i think is a good thing.

BossPerson

it wont cost them anything considerable BossPerson

Also the US better start helping the rebels before they fall apart. The "alliance" between the FSA and extremists is a time bomb.

sherman-tank1

[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"]

honestly, IMO the US should help the rebels out, but only to a point where they can continue the fight without being able to win. this isn't humane obviously but since both sides of the conflict suck, it will keep them busy killing each other for a long time which i think is a good thing.

BossPerson

Obama is the worst chess player I have ever seen BossPerson

This is very, very true.

Bossperson,

I haven't been following this particular thing for the past few months. Is Russia still having a full hardon for Assad, and could that possibly have to do with the questionable reluctance on the part of the U.S. WRT military intervention?

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]Obama is the worst chess player I have ever seen coolbeans90

This is very, very true.

I got wayyy confused for a second thinking you meant the chemical weaponry killed 100,000, I was like 0_0

then i realized this is within the last 2 years, ha. but still. i believe they're saying around 1300 dead from this specific attack. 

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]Obama is the worst chess player I have ever seen KC_Hokie

This is very, very true.

who is playing Tic Tac Toe?

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

This is very, very true.

mrbojangles25

who is playing Tic Tac Toe?

Africa.