South Dakota becomes first state to let teachers carry guns in classrooms

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[QUOTE="mmwmwmmwmwmm"] If it is really that easy to disarm someone and take the weapon for yourself, then why didn't anyone do that to the Sandy Hook shooter?mmwmwmmwmwmm

Whoever said anything about disarming the teacher? You think students won't look in a teacher's desk while they're out of the room?

Possibly. There's not going to be much reason to, say, carry their gun with them as they use the bathroom.

If a kid steals a gun from a teacher and shoots people with it I want to be known as the guy who called it first.

Leejjohno

Arming students would end up being the next proposal.

It's South Dakota.  There's only like 2 schools and 3 teachers in the whole state.  And the guns are probably to fend off bears.sonicare

A lot of laughs in this thread. :lol: 

I'm pretty indifferent about this whole legal decision.  I do think it was too big of a reaction to such an irregular event.  However, if properly executed I don't think it would be a disaster; as in proper training maybe even a 6 month periodic course to inssure the rationality of the teachers who choose to be armed like somebody stated earlier. 

Of course you run the risk of teachers being irresponsible and having a kid retreive their gun, but you can eliminate that possiblity by having a safe or some real security to make sure the weapon is out of reach.  I don't know, perhaps a safety room on campus where the guns can be stored... lol, like I said I think this is a bit rash, but if that's the measure they want to take then that's fine just make sure it's imposed properly and isn't adding more harm than good.

This is South Dakota though, if this was being enforced in say Southern California, that would be an ugly sight to behold.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="mmwmwmmwmwmm"]Do you really think a teacher would leave a gun in his desk while he was outside of the room?thegerg

Possibly. There's not going to be much reason to, say, carry their gun with them as they use the bathroom.

You'd be more crazy to believe there is no chance of this happening.

[QUOTE="mmwmwmmwmwmm"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Whoever said anything about disarming the teacher? You think students won't look in a teacher's desk while they're out of the room?

worlock77

Possibly. There's not going to be much reason to, say, carry their gun with them as they use the bathroom.

Let the pistol whipping begin. 

It scares the S*** out of he how many people make decisions on politics based on emotions. There is hard evidence about the effects of gun control on crime rates, but I have yet to see any posted. People believe what they want to believe.... 

What if a teacher goes crazy?

That's fvcking stupid. Rich3232

that's rough, in my day, they just sent us to the corner when we misbehaved.

that's rough, in my day, they just sent us to the corner when we misbehaved.

mrbojangles25

South Dakota doesn't practice corporal punishment. They don't believe in that old addage "spare the rod and spoil the child"

But a gun.. That bridges the generation gap quite nicely.

It scares the S*** out of he how many people make decisions on politics based on emotions. There is hard evidence about the effects of gun control on crime rates, but I have yet to see any posted. People believe what they want to believe.... 

Jacobistheman

Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Minnesota,Utah and North Dakota consistantly show up as the safest states in the country. All of those states have pretty lax gun laws with the harshest probably be Minnesota because it requires a permit to have assault weapons. I think its odd how this is always glossed over when the discussion of gun control comes up. All of the attention seems to be directed towards how dangerous the south is with its gun laws....completely disregarding the safest areas of the control with incredibly lax gun laws.

cant wait for one of those teachers to blow their tops off with stress, then we will see what happeans.

Maybe a teacher might see kids playing guns and think its real so the teacher will shoot the kids

Yeah we have to prevent those 10 deaths with school shootings a year on average out of the 75 million students in school... We might as well have kids driven in tanks now too, just to prevent possible deaths from car accidents.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="mmwmwmmwmwmm"]Do you really think a teacher would leave a gun in his desk while he was outside of the room?mmwmwmmwmwmm

Possibly. There's not going to be much reason to, say, carry their gun with them as they use the bathroom.

Doubtful. Someone carrying a gun around on school grounds, no matter what their reason, is an unnecessary distraction, to say the least. Chances are any teacher who has a gun in school is going to keep it in a lockbox in their desk. Not a foolproof measure by any means.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="mmwmwmmwmwmm"] You have already given a reason: to keep students from stealing it from the teacher's desk while he's gone.thegerg

Doubtful. Someone carrying a gun around on school grounds, no matter what their reason, is an unnecessary distraction, to say the least. Chances are any teacher who has a gun in school is going to keep it in a lockbox in their desk. Not a foolproof measure by any means.

I base that assumption on logic. I know how easily children can get distracted and/or frightened.

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Needs moar guns!mmwmwmmwmwmm

Yeah, because teacher will never lose their minds....

Countdown to "teacher shooting student incident" in 10....9....

Seriously, this is not a good idea. If a school wants to hire armed security, I would be okay with that. A classroom can sometimes be a very tense place based on some subject material, and there can be volatile students. A bad situation in a small classroom isn't made better by the presence of a gun.

Countdown to "teacher shooting student incident" in 10....9....

Seriously, this is not a good idea. If a school wants to hire armed security, I would be okay with that. A classroom can sometimes be a very tense place based on some subject material, and there can be volatile students. A bad situation in a small classroom isn't made better by the presence of a gun.

jimkabrhel

I've been in arguments where a gun was present in the room. Amazingly, I've never been shot at.

Believe it or not, the presence of a firearm doesn't cause someone to grow horns and worship the devil.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Countdown to "teacher shooting student incident" in 10....9....

Seriously, this is not a good idea. If a school wants to hire armed security, I would be okay with that. A classroom can sometimes be a very tense place based on some subject material, and there can be volatile students. A bad situation in a small classroom isn't made better by the presence of a gun.

UnknownSniper65

I've been in arguments where a gun was present in the room. Amazingly, I've never been shot at.

Believe it or not, the presence of a firearm doesn't cause someone to grow horns and worship the devil.

No, of course it doesn't, but it does present an instrument in a confined area than can be dangerous. Most armed teacher would not ever use their weapon in such a fashion, but just as there are mass shootings, there will be incidents. 

Does the teacher have the weapon on his or her person, or is it kept in the room in a secure fashion? If it's kept in a secure fashion, how could it be used in a situation where there are second to decide? If it's not kept securely, how can students be kept from accessing it?

There are too many unknowns for this to be a useful solution.

As I said previously, it's better for schools to hire armed security guards who are trained not only with firearms but also dangerous situations, than to have teachers carry.

This just baffles me.

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Countdown to "teacher shooting student incident" in 10....9....

Seriously, this is not a good idea. If a school wants to hire armed security, I would be okay with that. A classroom can sometimes be a very tense place based on some subject material, and there can be volatile students. A bad situation in a small classroom isn't made better by the presence of a gun.

jimkabrhel

I've been in arguments where a gun was present in the room. Amazingly, I've never been shot at.

Believe it or not, the presence of a firearm doesn't cause someone to grow horns and worship the devil.

No, of course it doesn't, but it does present an instrument in a confined area than can be dangerous. Most armed teacher would not ever use their weapon in such a fashion, but just as there are mass shootings, there will be incidents. 

Does the teacher have the weapon on his or her person, or is it kept in the room in a secure fashion? If it's kept in a secure fashion, how could it be used in a situation where there are second to decide? If it's not kept securely, how can students be kept from accessing it?

There are too many unknowns for this to be a useful solution.

As I said previously, it's better for schools to hire armed security guards who are trained not only with firearms but also dangerous situations, than to have teachers carry.

It is unnecesary.. We are talking about 10 deaths a year in a pool of 75 million students in the United States. If this is freaking the people the fvck out how are you able to go outside when the flu this year alone has claimed thousands?  Yes these events are awful, but we have many other awful events that claim far more lives a year than school shootings.. 

 So the chances of you getting killed in a school shooting is something around .0000013%..