Should women in the United States be required to register for Selective Service, better known to some as the military draft?

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Poll Should women in the United States be required to register for Selective Service, better known to some as the military draft? (47 votes)

Yes, if men have to do it, then women should have to do it, since equality and all. 83%
No, keep it exclusive to men, like it has always been. 15%

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Not too long ago, the US military got rid of rules barring women from entering direct combat jobs. Prior to this decision, women were restricted to support jobs in the military that normally didn't involve direct contact with enemy forces during a traditional war. Since the ban was lifted, women have graduated from the US Army's elite Ranger School and several women have enlisted or commissioned into the previously-banned job positions.

Rep. Duncan Hunter, who was against the decision to allow women to fill those combat positions, filed an amendment to the annual defense authorization bill that would require women to register for the Selective Service. His goal was to start a discussion about women in those combat positions and he voted against his own amendment. Originally, women were excluded from Selective Service due to the fact that they were barred from several jobs that would be required in the event of a draft.

However, the amendment ended up getting a majority vote by a slim margin. In order to go ahead, it has to get a full house vote and make it through the Senate. If it is ultimately passed, it will result in women having to register in America for the first time in history, meaning if it was determined that we had to reinstate the draft for any reason, women would be subject to it as well.

Thoughts? Should women be required to register, since they are no longer prohibited from holding combat jobs? Or should we keep it male only, like it has been for the past few decades?

Obviously, some people think we should get rid of the Selective Service altogether, since it is highly unlikely we will ever draft again. However, until the Selective Service disappears, many may say that it is a fair question of whether or not women should register.

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#51 Still_Vicious
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I feel what would happen if women were put into the same combat roles would be that inevitably, a group would get captured, and then raped to an incredible degree, brutalized far worse than men. Then we'd probably she pressure to ban women from combat again.

Realistically, this will probably happen considering how backwards america's enemies are.

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#52 fenriz275
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If women are going to be allowed in combat roles then they should also have to register. You don't need any specific set of genitals to stop a bullet.

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#53 sayyy-gaa
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Women want the same pay as men. Women want consideration for male jobs. Women want to be in male locker rooms for interviewing. Women should be made to apply for selective service. This is the price of equality. Really don't see how anyone can argue differently.

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#55 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Of course they should be..

@Maroxad said:

Yes, but at the same time, no.

First and foremost, we should try to get rid of the draft. As militaries move more and more towards quality over quantity. And an army of unwilling troops is nowhere near as effective as a willing one.

http://warontherocks.com/2013/12/drafted-armies-are-self-killing-machines/

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2008/1010/p01s01-woeu.html

There is also the economic impact of pulling people out of the workforce.

But at the same time, no double standards around. If women want equality, they should have equal responsibility of that of men.

.. The only time a draft should be instated is when the US is running risk of being destroyed from direct military threat.. At that point, wgaf about the workforce when the choices are between existing and not existing.

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#56 rosinmonkekyx17
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Women are citizens of the United States

Since when did it become exclusive the men to defend the nation when the time comes?

IMO, the people who say women can't handle the military service are really stupid...They should be subject to the draft as they are citizens of the US just as men are

Equality and all

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#57 dave123321
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Appreciated and miss jointeds parody efforts

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#58 deactivated-5e90a3763ea91
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Perhaps my thinking is a bit old-fashioned, but I feel a little protective towards women and am of the belief that men are better physically designed to be fighters. I think it is part of the man's duty to take up arms before women, so if a draft is forced then I think men should be required to fight first, before women.

Anyone who is really passionate about joining the forces of their own will, regardless of gender, should though.

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#59 no-scope-AK47
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Not many women can throw a 200 lbs man over their shoulder and carry them. We all know men are stronger and faster. We all know men don't go on the rag and the logistics with that in the field. Yet politricks have taken over in the modern sissy military.

I am out of the military so let all the women get drafted.

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#60 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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@no-scope-AK47 said:

Not many women can throw a 200 lbs man over their shoulder and carry them. We all know men are stronger and faster. We all know men don't go on the rag and the logistics with that in the field. Yet politricks have taken over in the modern sissy military.

I am out of the military so let all the women get drafted.

So if a woman could carry a man then why shouldn't she be allowed to join the military?

The military doesn't assume that because you're a man you're capable, you have to go through training first. So why should it assume that because you're a woman that you aren't capable?

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#61 no-scope-AK47
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@toast_burner said:
@no-scope-AK47 said:

Not many women can throw a 200 lbs man over their shoulder and carry them. We all know men are stronger and faster. We all know men don't go on the rag and the logistics with that in the field. Yet politricks have taken over in the modern sissy military.

I am out of the military so let all the women get drafted.

So if a woman could carry a man then why shouldn't she be allowed to join the military?

The military doesn't assume that because you're a man you're capable, you have to go through training first. So why should it assume that because you're a woman that you aren't capable?

This is the problem^^^

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#62 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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@no-scope-AK47 said:
@toast_burner said:
@no-scope-AK47 said:

Not many women can throw a 200 lbs man over their shoulder and carry them. We all know men are stronger and faster. We all know men don't go on the rag and the logistics with that in the field. Yet politricks have taken over in the modern sissy military.

I am out of the military so let all the women get drafted.

So if a woman could carry a man then why shouldn't she be allowed to join the military?

The military doesn't assume that because you're a man you're capable, you have to go through training first. So why should it assume that because you're a woman that you aren't capable?

This is the problem^^^

So you don't have a counter argument. It's a pretty simple question, if a woman is exceptionally stronger than the average woman then why should she not be allowed to join?

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#63 no-scope-AK47
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@toast_burner said:
@no-scope-AK47 said:
@toast_burner said:
@no-scope-AK47 said:

Not many women can throw a 200 lbs man over their shoulder and carry them. We all know men are stronger and faster. We all know men don't go on the rag and the logistics with that in the field. Yet politricks have taken over in the modern sissy military.

I am out of the military so let all the women get drafted.

So if a woman could carry a man then why shouldn't she be allowed to join the military?

The military doesn't assume that because you're a man you're capable, you have to go through training first. So why should it assume that because you're a woman that you aren't capable?

This is the problem^^^

So you don't have a counter argument. It's a pretty simple question, if a woman is exceptionally stronger than the average woman then why should she not be allowed to join?

Yeah troll bait needs answers because common sense is not so common and the internet no longer works got you.

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#64 dragonfly110
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@Solaryellow said:

No one should be required.

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#65 sayyy-gaa
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@rosinmonkekyx17 said:

Women are citizens of the United States

Since when did it become exclusive the men to defend the nation when the time comes?

IMO, the people who say women can't handle the military service are really stupid...They should be subject to the draft as they are citizens of the US just as men are

Equality and all

Amen. This is the price of equality that women are fighting so hard for.

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#66 Renevent42
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Yes, if we are truly concerned about equality women should have to participate in any mandatory program men do.

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#67  Edited By Jacanuk
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@Solaryellow said:

No one should be required.

Nonsense.

The discipline and respect you learn in the military should be mandatory learning for young people.

Today's youth is way too self-centered and egotistic so if any generation needed the mandatory draft, it´s now. And that goes for both boys and girls.

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#68  Edited By bmanva
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@Jacanuk said:
@Solaryellow said:

No one should be required.

Nonsense.

The discipline and respect you learn in the military should be mandatory learning for young people.

Today's youth is way too self-centered and egotistic so if any generation needed the mandatory draft, it´s now. And that goes for both boys and girls.

That shouldn't be forced upon the individual though. Discipline and respect should come through as a conscienous choice, not something to be thrusted upon because it won't stick. You would only compromise the integrity and professionalism of the all volunteer military we have today by doing so.

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#69 mrbojangles25
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Well, I don't think there should be a draft/selective service, period. But if there has to be, then yes, women should be required.

You can always just not aim at your target and shoot so you don't kill anyone. Upwards of 15% (conservative statistic) of soldiers in WWII aimed over the enemy's heads, while in Vietnam 50,000 rounds were fired for every enemy killed. Seems like if people don't want to kill, they will just miss lol.

I totally support and have nothing but respect for our voluntary military, but drafts are just terrible.

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#70 Jacanuk
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@bmanva said:
@Jacanuk said:
@Solaryellow said:

No one should be required.

Nonsense.

The discipline and respect you learn in the military should be mandatory learning for young people.

Today's youth is way too self-centered and egotistic so if any generation needed the mandatory draft, it´s now. And that goes for both boys and girls.

That shouldn't be forced upon the individual though. Discipline and respect should come through as a conscienous choice, not something to be thrusted upon because it won't stick. You would only compromise the integrity and professionalism of the all volunteer military we have today by doing so.

Well, unfortunately parents today are not always able to install discipline and respect into the kids. Either by sheer lack of skill or by being complete morons who think the world has to revolve around their kids. And everyone has to treat them as princes and princesses.

And as to the professional military, well no one says that because you have a draft you can't have a serving military who is professional and where you still keep the level of admittance up. And by a draft you also get a chance to pick and choose the best, so we might even see a increase in talent and abilities of those who go on to serve in that way.

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#71  Edited By Solaryellow
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@Jacanuk said:

Nonsense.

The discipline and respect you learn in the military should be mandatory learning for young people.

Today's youth is way too self-centered and egotistic so if any generation needed the mandatory draft, it´s now. And that goes for both boys and girls.

People would take up arms to defend our way of life but that isn't what why most of our wars/conflicts have taken place. WWII and up have resulted from either lies, b.s. or meddling in the affairs of others. Who, in their right mind, would want to be forced into fighting the games of our politicians? Better yet, what kind of discipline and respect would one learn when they are forced to fight? As an example, the morale in Vietnam was terrible. Do you know why?

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#72 bmanva
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@Solaryellow said:
@Jacanuk said:

Nonsense.

The discipline and respect you learn in the military should be mandatory learning for young people.

Today's youth is way too self-centered and egotistic so if any generation needed the mandatory draft, it´s now. And that goes for both boys and girls.

People would take up arms to defend our way of life but that isn't what why most of our wars/conflicts have taken place. WWII and up have resulted from either lies, b.s. or meddling in the affairs of others. Who, in their right mind, would want to be forced into fighting the games of our politicians? Better yet, what kind of discipline and respect would one learn when they are forced to fight? As an example, the morale in Vietnam was terrible. Do you know why?

Actually most of the low morale issues weren't with the frontline troops but the rear echelon support teams. You learn discipline and respect right quick when bullets are flying.

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#73  Edited By bforrester420
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If women want equal pay, equal treatment, etc., they should similarly be required to the same as men. Can't have your cake and eat it too.