Should women in the United States be required to register for Selective Service, better known to some as the military draft?

No one should be required.

I think it's better to let people choose to be a soldier rather then force them to be.

I actually added the option to get rid of it altogether as the third option since I knew people would type what you posted, but for some reason it didn't pop up when I hit post and only the first two options came up. Not the first glitch I had posting a topic.

We should just not have it but until then yes.

Yes women should be required to register for selective services. Equal rights to all. For all of the people saying no one should be required to enroll in selective services? WHAT? Please explain this line of thinking.

People who are saying that it shouldn't exist can summarily be categorized as the spoiled hell-spawn of the modern age. These people are the very reason why the west is in decline.

@jointed: why tho

Yes, women and girls should also be required to register.

And the age at which registration is compulsory should be reduced too---perhaps to as low as 12.

Imminent war with Russia and China means that the US military will soon need all the man/woman/child-power that it can possibly wring out of the population.

Hell, if the kiddies in Ukraine can be made to crawl through smoke-filled tunnels and learn to disassemble and reassemble rifles, then I don't see why the kiddies in America can't be made to do the same. :-)

A country must be able to defend itself. It's actually very logical.

@jointed: how does this help in any way to defend ourselves

Just seems like a relic of a bygone era that is being used to prove a point

Tho I hope it passes and so the guys plan backfires

yes, and I also believe we should have a compulsory two years of service after high school

Can you tell me the last time the United States went to war when our country (GOVERNMENT actually) was minding its business and was suddenly attacked w/o provoking or interfering in the business of another nation? The last time the draft was used was because our government had to interfere in South East Asia and the Domino Effect propaganda was used. Remember Johnson making some b.s. speech how our boys should not be fighting because their boys should be fighting?

I remember many years ago when I was enraged knowing boys were fleeing to Europe and Canada in order to remove themselves from fighting in Vietnam. As I grew older and looked at the situation objectively, I couldn't be enraged any longer.

The West is in decline because of our leaders.

We have a great standing military. This is true. But we should always have the ability to recruit whoever(whoever=U.S. citizens) is needed to defend our nation when called. If a challenge against a formidable military force presents itself we must be ready.

I believe selective service registration should be a government mandate for every able bodied American.

It doesn't matter. A standing army won't be enough if oher countries engage in total war. The option must exist.

Here's a Bane quote from The Dark Knight Rises to illustrate the weakling attitude in today's kids:

"Peace has cost you your strength; Victory has defeated you"

lol

Oh it absolutely matters. Being drafted to fight a b.s. war caused by our government's interfering makes those fighting nothing more than disposable pawns to our "leaders." Fighting for our freedom and way of life is something many people would do. Fighting for an unjust war or conflict is not.

NONE of the wars fought by our military in my life time (and even farther back) were to preserve our way of life.

sure. require them to register

it is unlikely they'll ever actually be needed

agreed, I feel like you and I don't do that often enough.

The draft is a relic that needs to be ditched, plain and simple.

Besides, if I am a general I want my soldiers to be people who CHOSE to be there, rather than dealing with a bunch of people who don't want to be there. Less of a headache and you are going to get better performances out of people who want to be there.

I say yes, because we are all equal. But not many, Because if we had an all out war, which i hope we never do. We still need baby makers. I have many reasons why.

The United States is the largest armed camp in the world. And I'm not even talking about the military.

If someone somehow managed to invade our shores, every Jim-Bob, Jethro and Roy will be lining up to take shots at them.

Yes, as long as it's around, though I believe it shouldn't be a thing anymore.

@jointed you keep demonstrating that whenever you speak, you make foolish statements based on your own vague (at best) ideas of real-world issues. A quote from a Batman movie just helps strength that view.

We need a like/dislike system here on the forums

If they are registering to vote - of course.

@jointed: how old are you

I would like to think we have evolved our society enough to the point where we are not in need of a draft. I understand that if women want complete equality, they must accept the same amount of responsibilty as well. If a draft were ever needed, though, I think females in war would be far from a big issue, as I think that state of affairs would coincide with far greater abuses of life and liberty.

Drafts are an antiquated concept anyway, considering we have about a billion different ways to destroy our species far more quickly, other than army to army warfare.

No, we shouldn't have equality in that sense.

Bane was the villain of a fictional film

I'm pretty sure that my understanding of the world is greater than yours in every single way. And no, this shouldn't be taken as a typical case of internet hyperbole but rather as a declarative statement.

Now, as the above is obviously the case, I understand that you're prone to mixing "being foolish" with "not having the same opinion/stating facts".

In regards to the topic at hand, it's not controversial in any setting to have a draft system. Why isn't it controversial? Because it's OBVIOUSLY necessary. Even Sweden, a leftist haven, have a draft system. Pointing out the ridiculousness in wanting it gone is not foolishness...

And the fact that you have the gall to criticize my understanding of the world, whilst simultaneously sporting the flag of a pathetic traitor territory (know for it's disgusting leftist leanings) is quite remarkable. These catalonians even think that they would be allowed to join the EU if they split...jesus.

And lastly, a quote is a quote. It was aimed at the individuals in the thread and not as an explaination of a world issue. Extrapolating it's origins to somehow reflect how much I know about the world literally makes NO sense. But hey, if you're not up for a quote of light-hearted origin then here's another in regards to you personally.

“You may plainly perceive the traitor through his mask; he is well-known everywhere in his true colors; his rolling eyes and his honeyed tones impose only on those who do not know him.” - Molière, The Misanthrope

Live long enough and you see yourself become the villain

It's always darkest before the dawn and the dawn is coming

I hate snakes

Rosebud

You talking to me

@jointed: And Spain is a right-wing country that got rid of the draft years ago, which kinda makes your Sweden example moot. Speaking of right-wing, the dominant party in Catalonia for the last 3 decades is a conservative party, not that you bothered to check your facts.

You can keep on throwing about these half-assed defenses and personal attacks though, it honestly suits you, given the type of user you've proven to be.

And lastly, here :-*

No one should be afraid of the draft.

@ianhh6 said:

@jointed: And Spain is a right-wing country that got rid of the draft years ago, which kinda makes your Sweden example moot. Speaking of right-wing, the dominant party in Catalonia for the last 3 decades is a conservative party, not that you bothered to check your facts.

You can keep on throwing about these half-assed defenses and personal attacks though, it honestly suits you, given the type of user you've proven to be.

And lastly, here :-*

I believe that all who can achieve it and sustain it should be entitled to self-determination, so I support Catalonia's bid for independence.

Of course, I also support the attempts of the Donetsk People's Republic and the Lugansk People's Republic to win independence from the US puppet state of Ukraine. :-P

@Stesilaus: Personally I believe beyond the actual political and economic infrastructure necessary to be an independent state, a region should have its own distinct culture, but that's mostly because I don't get the claim for independence if there is no distinct nationality, which would be defined by a distinct culture. In such cases where there isn't a distinct culture legislative measures could likely be taken to please everyone.

In that sense I understand Scotland and Quebec, to name two well-known cases, but I wouldn't understand it if, say, North Dakota decided they want to be independent. Though of course then comes the question of at what point you consider cultural differences between regions "sufficient" for the claim of having their own nationality (having your own language helps :P)

ANYWAYS this is all quite off topic, sorry TC :3

The United States has an all volunteer military and does not want a draft. A draft would be used in an extreme emergency. Right now 75% of young Americans could not meet the re4quirments for military service. I hope we do not have to use a draft as we would be screwed. By the way women should never be drafted.

@jointed: So are Americans actually British traitors?

By golly, we agree on something.

Yes, women should be allowed to volunteer. Just look at how well the female kurds do it.

See how I said volunteer? I disagree with the drafting process.

Pretty much.

I echo the "no one should be required" sentiment... but if women want equality, and men are required, then so should women be required.

The second part of your answer is not something I expected from you.

actually as a liberal I feel compulsory service would be something that'd make everyone more conscientious with regard to who we elect in office, and the foreign policy and militaristic intervention they want carried out

@lamprey263: Fair enough. I spent four years in the Air Force and its opened my eyes a lot. I think our government needs to reign it in a bit. Our military-industrial complex is insane.

I say no women in the military to be honest.

But for some reason my opinion in unpopular

Yes, but at the same time, no.

First and foremost, we should try to get rid of the draft. As militaries move more and more towards quality over quantity. And an army of unwilling troops is nowhere near as effective as a willing one.

http://warontherocks.com/2013/12/drafted-armies-are-self-killing-machines/

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2008/1010/p01s01-woeu.html

There is also the economic impact of pulling people out of the workforce.

But at the same time, no double standards around. If women want equality, they should have equal responsibility of that of men.