NBA's 5 Greatest players all time?

1-Micheal Jordan

2-Kareem abdul jabar

3-Wilt Chamberlain

4-Bill Russel

5-Confuesd(: Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson

ur list?

1. Michael Jordan

2. Dr. Julius Erving

3. Kareem Abdul Jabar

4. Larry Bird

5. LeBron James

• Larry Bird
• Michael Jordan
• Magic Johnson
• Lebron James
• Julius Erving

Micheal Jordan
Jerry West
Kobe Bryant
Kareem Abdul Jabar
LeBron James

I win.

I win.

Head_of_games

i loved that movie oh the nostalgia thanks buddy

1.Wilt chamberlain

2.Michael jordan

3.dr.J

4.Bill russel

5.Larry bird

i put mj second becuz wilt got 100 points in one game mj's never done that

I win.

Head_of_games

nice movie(:

Jordan

Dr. J

Wilt

Kareem

Lebron

Hey do u guys know what is the name of the asian player? the tall guy? who playes in NBA

Hey do u guys know what is the name of the asian player? the tall guy? who playes in NBA

explasiv

Why is everybody putting Lebron before Kobe? I can understand that he may surpass him in the future, but right now Kobe's getting even better with age. Kobe has the titles to prove his ability and he's been carrying his team for a lot longer then Lebron and they have always been a contender. Kobe is better then Lebron right now and I can't see why anybody would disagree. I think after Lebron betters his consistency with the jump shot and doesn't choke during the post season then he can be considered better then Kobe.

Jordan

Kobe

Magic

Lebron

Pippin

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Hey do u guys know what is the name of the asian player? the tall guy? who playes in NBA

CrimzonTide

Jordan

Majic Johnson

Charles Barkley

wilt chamberlain

Larry Bird.

No kinda order.

How Wilt is not on a lot of peoples lists is amazing to me....especially putting Lebron and Kobe over Wilt...well anyway here are my five.

1. Wilt Chamberlain

2. Kareem Abdul Jabar

3. Micheal Jordan

4. Bill Russell

5. Moses Malone

Why is everybody putting Lebron before Kobe? I can understand that he may surpass him in the future, but right now Kobe's getting even better with age. Kobe has the titles to prove his ability and he's been carrying his team for a lot longer then Lebron and they have always been a contender. Kobe is better then Lebron right now and I can't see why anybody would disagree. I think after Lebron betters his consistency with the jump shot and doesn't choke during the post season then he can be considered better then Kobe.

bigblunt537

How Wilt is not on a lot of peoples lists is amazing to me....especially putting Lebron and Kobe over Wilt...well anyway here are my five.

1. Wilt Chamberlain

2. Kareem Abdul Jabar

3. Micheal Jordan

4. Bill Russell

5. Moses Malone

microsoft4life

same here hes better than everyone else he scored 100 points in one game

[QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

How Wilt is not on a lot of peoples lists is amazing to me....especially putting Lebron and Kobe over Wilt...well anyway here are my five.

1. Wilt Chamberlain

2. Kareem Abdul Jabar

3. Micheal Jordan

4. Bill Russell

5. Moses Malone

same here hes better than everyone else he scored 100 points in one game

[QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

How Wilt is not on a lot of peoples lists is amazing to me....especially putting Lebron and Kobe over Wilt...well anyway here are my five.

1. Wilt Chamberlain

2. Kareem Abdul Jabar

3. Micheal Jordan

4. Bill Russell

5. Moses Malone

same here hes better than everyone else he scored 100 points in one game

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[QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

How Wilt is not on a lot of peoples lists is amazing to me....especially putting Lebron and Kobe over Wilt...well anyway here are my five.

1. Wilt Chamberlain

2. Kareem Abdul Jabar

3. Micheal Jordan

4. Bill Russell

5. Moses Malone

jfcundiff

same here hes better than everyone else he scored 100 points in one game

For the record, I didnt put him number one because he scored 100 points in a game. Yes that adds to his legacy but he also played exceptional defense, is the only person to have a triple double double, and in his first season in the NBA he averaged 37 points and 27 rebounds which is ridiculous. If you would like I will list even more on why he is simply the greatest force the NBA has ever seen.

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="playstationboy7"]

same here hes better than everyone else he scored 100 points in one game

Strider_91

It was because of Wilt that we have offensive goaltending and the widening of the lane. Plus they changed the rules on shooting free throws because of him.

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="playstationboy7"]

same here hes better than everyone else he scored 100 points in one game

microsoft4life

For the record, I didnt put him number one because he scored 100 points in a game. Yes that adds to his legacy but he also played exceptional defense, is the only person to have a triple double double, and in his first season in the NBA he averaged 37 points and 27 rebounds which is ridiculous. If you would like I will list even more on why he is simply the greatest force the NBA has ever seen.

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Just because you score 100 points in a game does not mean you are the best. Defenses were not the same back then and nobody at that time besides Russell was on Wilt's level. He would not be putting up 100 point games nowadays against players now. jfcundiff

For the record, I didnt put him number one because he scored 100 points in a game. Yes that adds to his legacy but he also played exceptional defense, is the only person to have a triple double double, and in his first season in the NBA he averaged 37 points and 27 rebounds which is ridiculous. If you would like I will list even more on why he is simply the greatest force the NBA has ever seen.

[QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"] Just because you score 100 points in a game does not mean you are the best. Defenses were not the same back then and nobody at that time besides Russell was on Wilt's level. He would not be putting up 100 point games nowadays against players now. jfcundiff

For the record, I didnt put him number one because he scored 100 points in a game. Yes that adds to his legacy but he also played exceptional defense, is the only person to have a triple double double, and in his first season in the NBA he averaged 37 points and 27 rebounds which is ridiculous. If you would like I will list even more on why he is simply the greatest force the NBA has ever seen.

I would have to disagree. Russell was a better big man than Duncan, and Shaq and Wilt still went nuts. He was a freak of nature, he never got tired on the court which you cant say about Duncan, Shaq, or anybody in the NBA today. Wilt had amazing conditioning which helped put him above the rest. Plus you cant negate his college accomplishments at Kansas which showed exactly why he was the best.

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[QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

For the record, I didnt put him number one because he scored 100 points in a game. Yes that adds to his legacy but he also played exceptional defense, is the only person to have a triple double double, and in his first season in the NBA he averaged 37 points and 27 rebounds which is ridiculous. If you would like I will list even more on why he is simply the greatest force the NBA has ever seen.

I would have to disagree. Russell was a better big man than Duncan, and Shaq and Wilt still went nuts. He was a freak of nature, he never got tired on the court which you cant say about Duncan, Shaq, or anybody in the NBA today. Wilt had amazing conditioning which helped put him above the rest. Plus you cant negate his college accomplishments at Kansas which showed exactly why he was the best.

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"] Yes those are great accomplishments, but he was facingmuch inferior competition in terms of big men then nowadays. Russell was his only real problem. If you put him against guys like Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem, and even Kareem in his prime he would not be able to dominate the way he was back then.

jfcundiff

I would have to disagree. Russell was a better big man than Duncan, and Shaq and Wilt still went nuts. He was a freak of nature, he never got tired on the court which you cant say about Duncan, Shaq, or anybody in the NBA today. Wilt had amazing conditioning which helped put him above the rest. Plus you cant negate his college accomplishments at Kansas which showed exactly why he was the best.

The names I bolded I believe should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as Russell and Wilt (along with other greats) I also only bold Howard because he hasnt been around the block yet but I think he will become a great. While I do agree the competition may not has been as good at center and forward the numbers he still put up were off the charts. Still to this day you have commentators, former players, current players, etc. say Wilt was the greatest player in basketball. Obviously that dosent make it fact as its their opinions, however with so many accounts of how he was and his accomplishments its a dis-service to Wilt to not even have him in the top 3.

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

I would have to disagree. Russell was a better big man than Duncan, and Shaq and Wilt still went nuts. He was a freak of nature, he never got tired on the court which you cant say about Duncan, Shaq, or anybody in the NBA today. Wilt had amazing conditioning which helped put him above the rest. Plus you cant negate his college accomplishments at Kansas which showed exactly why he was the best.

The names I bolded I believe should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as Russell and Wilt (along with other greats) I also only bold Howard because he hasnt been around the block yet but I think he will become a great. While I do agree the competition may not has been as good at center and forward the numbers he still put up were off the charts. Still to this day you have commentators, former players, current players, etc. say Wilt was the greatest player in basketball. Obviously that dosent make it fact as its their opinions, however with so many accounts of how he was and his accomplishments its a dis-service to Wilt to not even have him in the top 3.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

Why is everybody putting Lebron before Kobe? I can understand that he may surpass him in the future, but right now Kobe's getting even better with age. Kobe has the titles to prove his ability and he's been carrying his team for a lot longer then Lebron and they have always been a contender. Kobe is better then Lebron right now and I can't see why anybody would disagree. I think after Lebron betters his consistency with the jump shot and doesn't choke during the post season then he can be considered better then Kobe.

jfcundiff

Yea these people are loco.

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[QUOTE="jfcundiff"] I am not saying Wilt is not one of the best of all time, but people have to look at the competition level. Besides Russell and Wilt there was no other dominant forces at the 4 or 5 spot. Guys like Duncan and Shaq have had much stiffer competition nowadays when you look at the players they are going against even dating back to the 90's. Hakeem, Robinson, Barkley, Garnett, Ewing, Malone, Mourning, Mutombo, Wallace, Dirk, Gasol, Howard, Bosh, Stoudamire, Kemp, and Coleman just to name a few. jfcundiff

The names I bolded I believe should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as Russell and Wilt (along with other greats) I also only bold Howard because he hasnt been around the block yet but I think he will become a great. While I do agree the competition may not has been as good at center and forward the numbers he still put up were off the charts. Still to this day you have commentators, former players, current players, etc. say Wilt was the greatest player in basketball. Obviously that dosent make it fact as its their opinions, however with so many accounts of how he was and his accomplishments its a dis-service to Wilt to not even have him in the top 3.

Well the reason I believe Wilt would still dominate today is just plain because of his conditioning. He never got tired which you cant say the same about todays players. Since Wilt did track his conditioning was off the charts so when the top players of today take defensive plays off or simply dont have enough left Wilt would just eat them alive. Not only was is offensive prowess so great but he also led the league in assissts etc so hes a great threat as a setup man as well. Would he have been as good as he was back then? Maybe, maybe not. But id wager he'd still be one of the top 5 in the league today.

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

Why is everybody putting Lebron before Kobe? I can understand that he may surpass him in the future, but right now Kobe's getting even better with age. Kobe has the titles to prove his ability and he's been carrying his team for a lot longer then Lebron and they have always been a contender. Kobe is better then Lebron right now and I can't see why anybody would disagree. I think after Lebron betters his consistency with the jump shot and doesn't choke during the post season then he can be considered better then Kobe.

Yea these people are loco.

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

The names I bolded I believe should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as Russell and Wilt (along with other greats) I also only bold Howard because he hasnt been around the block yet but I think he will become a great. While I do agree the competition may not has been as good at center and forward the numbers he still put up were off the charts. Still to this day you have commentators, former players, current players, etc. say Wilt was the greatest player in basketball. Obviously that dosent make it fact as its their opinions, however with so many accounts of how he was and his accomplishments its a dis-service to Wilt to not even have him in the top 3.

Well the reason I believe Wilt would still dominate today is just plain because of his conditioning. He never got tired which you cant say the same about todays players. Since Wilt did track his conditioning was off the charts so when the top players of today take defensive plays off or simply dont have enough left Wilt would just eat them alive. Not only was is offensive prowess so great but he also led the league in assissts etc so hes a great threat as a setup man as well. Would he have been as good as he was back then? Maybe, maybe not. But id wager he'd still be one of the top 5 in the league today.

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"][QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

The names I bolded I believe should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as Russell and Wilt (along with other greats) I also only bold Howard because he hasnt been around the block yet but I think he will become a great. While I do agree the competition may not has been as good at center and forward the numbers he still put up were off the charts. Still to this day you have commentators, former players, current players, etc. say Wilt was the greatest player in basketball. Obviously that dosent make it fact as its their opinions, however with so many accounts of how he was and his accomplishments its a dis-service to Wilt to not even have him in the top 3.

Well the reason I believe Wilt would still dominate today is just plain because of his conditioning. He never got tired which you cant say the same about todays players. Since Wilt did track his conditioning was off the charts so when the top players of today take defensive plays off or simply dont have enough left Wilt would just eat them alive. Not only was is offensive prowess so great but he also led the league in assissts etc so hes a great threat as a setup man as well. Would he have been as good as he was back then? Maybe, maybe not. But id wager he'd still be one of the top 5 in the league today.

[QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"] The names you mentioned obviously are not in Russell and Wilt's class, but I am just trying to show that the competition is a lot tougher than back in the 60's for big men. Wilt is my top 3 players of all time, but I think people who say he would dominate the same way he did back then even in today's are kidding themselves. They would be good, but not the same dominant forces that we saw in the 60's and even early 70's. The game has changed so much from then to now. Strider_91

Well the reason I believe Wilt would still dominate today is just plain because of his conditioning. He never got tired which you cant say the same about todays players. Since Wilt did track his conditioning was off the charts so when the top players of today take defensive plays off or simply dont have enough left Wilt would just eat them alive. Not only was is offensive prowess so great but he also led the league in assissts etc so hes a great threat as a setup man as well. Would he have been as good as he was back then? Maybe, maybe not. But id wager he'd still be one of the top 5 in the league today.

The point I was trying to make is Wilt never got tired during a game. Where as Duncan, Shaq, Mutombo, etc were all worn down over the course of the game not being able to do what they did in the earlier parts of the game or not to the same degree. Where as Wilt kept on coming.

[QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

[QUOTE="jfcundiff"] The names you mentioned obviously are not in Russell and Wilt's class, but I am just trying to show that the competition is a lot tougher than back in the 60's for big men. Wilt is my top 3 players of all time, but I think people who say he would dominate the same way he did back then even in today's are kidding themselves. They would be good, but not the same dominant forces that we saw in the 60's and even early 70's. The game has changed so much from then to now. jfcundiff

Well the reason I believe Wilt would still dominate today is just plain because of his conditioning. He never got tired which you cant say the same about todays players. Since Wilt did track his conditioning was off the charts so when the top players of today take defensive plays off or simply dont have enough left Wilt would just eat them alive. Not only was is offensive prowess so great but he also led the league in assissts etc so hes a great threat as a setup man as well. Would he have been as good as he was back then? Maybe, maybe not. But id wager he'd still be one of the top 5 in the league today.

I wouldn't call it a big question mark but it will always be up for debate. You can say the same thing about Ruth since he never played against any of the negro players and wether he would be able to hit as many home runs today. It's all up to the imagination I suppose.

[QUOTE="Strider_91"][QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

Well the reason I believe Wilt would still dominate today is just plain because of his conditioning. He never got tired which you cant say the same about todays players. Since Wilt did track his conditioning was off the charts so when the top players of today take defensive plays off or simply dont have enough left Wilt would just eat them alive. Not only was is offensive prowess so great but he also led the league in assissts etc so hes a great threat as a setup man as well. Would he have been as good as he was back then? Maybe, maybe not. But id wager he'd still be one of the top 5 in the league today.

microsoft4life

The point I was trying to make is Wilt never got tired during a game. Where as Duncan, Shaq, Mutombo, etc were all worn down over the course of the game not being able to do what they did in the earlier parts of the game or not to the same degree. Where as Wilt kept on coming.

Wilt never got tired back in the day, but just as lebron in high school he was a men amongst boys. If Kobe played 50 years ago I guarantee you he would score 100+ in a game because who would stop him? He jumps higher then everybody,runs faster then everybody, and his offensive/defensive game is way beyond that of all the other players. I am like 90% sure if Walt played in the NBA today he'd definitely be a 20+ and 10 guy, but I'm pretty sure he's not dropping 100 points.

[QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

[QUOTE="Strider_91"] Yeah he was very well conditioned.. but so are the players these days. Its just again.. the standard is higher so they have to push themselves more against tougher opponents.bigblunt537

The point I was trying to make is Wilt never got tired during a game. Where as Duncan, Shaq, Mutombo, etc were all worn down over the course of the game not being able to do what they did in the earlier parts of the game or not to the same degree. Where as Wilt kept on coming.

Wilt never got tired back in the day, but just as lebron in high school he was a men amongst boys. If Kobe played 50 years ago I guarantee you he would score 100+ in a game because who would stop him? He jumps higher then everybody,runs faster then everybody, and his offensive/defensive game is way beyond that of all the other players. I am like 90% sure if Walt played in the NBA today he'd definitely be a 20+ and 10 guy, but I'm pretty sure he's not dropping 100 points.

Just because Wilt scored 100 points in a game dosen't make him the best. I've already stated that. Plus if Kobe played back then he would be great but I doubt he would score 100 points in a game. When he scored 81 points he said so himself that it would never happen again and that it was just one of those things. Also Wade is actually averaging more points than Kobe and I would not even put Kobe in the top 10 for defensive play amongst guards.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="microsoft4life"]

The point I was trying to make is Wilt never got tired during a game. Where as Duncan, Shaq, Mutombo, etc were all worn down over the course of the game not being able to do what they did in the earlier parts of the game or not to the same degree. Where as Wilt kept on coming.

microsoft4life

Wilt never got tired back in the day, but just as lebron in high school he was a men amongst boys. If Kobe played 50 years ago I guarantee you he would score 100+ in a game because who would stop him? He jumps higher then everybody,runs faster then everybody, and his offensive/defensive game is way beyond that of all the other players. I am like 90% sure if Walt played in the NBA today he'd definitely be a 20+ and 10 guy, but I'm pretty sure he's not dropping 100 points.

Just because Wilt scored 100 points in a game dosen't make him the best. I've already stated that. Plus if Kobe played back then he would be great but I doubt he would score 100 points in a game. When he scored 81 points he said so himself that it would never happen again and that it was just one of those things. Also Wade is actually averaging more points than Kobe and I would not even put Kobe in the top 10 for defensive play amongst guards.

I don't think Wilt was the best. I think its impossible to have a best. The reason Kobe said that is because he wasn't trying to seem cocky. You would probably do the same(Atleast I would). I think any of the superstars of today would've been very capable of scoring 100 points in a game which is why I'm saying Wilt would be a 20+,10+ guy easily. He would still be an allstar today. When he played he was an Allstar amongst people no where near his skill level(except for a select few). Lebron/Wade/Dwight/Kobe/Shaq and the list goes on, would do it easily against those "skinny" bball players of the day.

Jordan

Chamberlain

Stockton

Magic

Bird

The lack of John Stockton on this list is disturbing, he has the most assists in NBA history and that record is never going to be touched.

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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

Wilt never got tired back in the day, but just as lebron in high school he was a men amongst boys. If Kobe played 50 years ago I guarantee you he would score 100+ in a game because who would stop him? He jumps higher then everybody,runs faster then everybody, and his offensive/defensive game is way beyond that of all the other players. I am like 90% sure if Walt played in the NBA today he'd definitely be a 20+ and 10 guy, but I'm pretty sure he's not dropping 100 points.

bigblunt537

Just because Wilt scored 100 points in a game dosen't make him the best. I've already stated that. Plus if Kobe played back then he would be great but I doubt he would score 100 points in a game. When he scored 81 points he said so himself that it would never happen again and that it was just one of those things. Also Wade is actually averaging more points than Kobe and I would not even put Kobe in the top 10 for defensive play amongst guards.

I don't think Wilt was the best. I think its impossible to have a best. The reason Kobe said that is because he wasn't trying to seem cocky. You would probably do the same(Atleast I would). I think any of the superstars of today would've been very capable of scoring 100 points in a game which is why I'm saying Wilt would be a 20+,10+ guy easily. He would still be an allstar today. When he played he was an Allstar amongst people no where near his skill level(except for a select few). Lebron/Wade/Dwight/Kobe/Shaq and the list goes on, would do it easily against those "skinny" bball players of the day.

There have been countless of athletes who said they would repeat great performances. I mean the odds are very slim Kobe will ever score 81 or more again. As I said before with skill level you could say the same thing about the babe, gretzky (now that the rules have changed) etc. It's all about what you want to believe.

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Just because Wilt scored 100 points in a game dosen't make him the best. I've already stated that. Plus if Kobe played back then he would be great but I doubt he would score 100 points in a game. When he scored 81 points he said so himself that it would never happen again and that it was just one of those things. Also Wade is actually averaging more points than Kobe and I would not even put Kobe in the top 10 for defensive play amongst guards.

I don't think Wilt was the best. I think its impossible to have a best. The reason Kobe said that is because he wasn't trying to seem cocky. You would probably do the same(Atleast I would). I think any of the superstars of today would've been very capable of scoring 100 points in a game which is why I'm saying Wilt would be a 20+,10+ guy easily. He would still be an allstar today. When he played he was an Allstar amongst people no where near his skill level(except for a select few). Lebron/Wade/Dwight/Kobe/Shaq and the list goes on, would do it easily against those "skinny" bball players of the day.

There have been countless of athletes who said they would repeat great performances. I mean the odds are very slim Kobe will ever score 81 or more again. As I said before with skill level you could say the same thing about the babe, gretzky (now that the rules have changed) etc. It's all about what you want to believe.

Nobody ever remembers George Mikan. They had to change the rules he was so good.duxup

and now the NBA is thinking about changing the travel rules to help Lebron lol...

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the_sporting_blog/entry/view/18091/nba_may_alter_traveling_rules,_officially_make_two-steps_legal_(lebron_is_pleased)