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It's a 12 year old OS and regular support was discontinued for it in 2009. People don't have to run out and get 8, but they should have moved off XP long ago.
-byshop
Byshop
Right, because we all run out and buy a new PC every time MS or Apple comes out with a new OS.
[QUOTE="Byshop"]
It's a 12 year old OS and regular support was discontinued for it in 2009. People don't have to run out and get 8, but they should have moved off XP long ago.
-byshop
theone86
Right, because we all run out and buy a new PC every time MS or Apple comes out with a new OS.
Which is totally what he said.
[QUOTE="Byshop"]
It's a 12 year old OS and regular support was discontinued for it in 2009. People don't have to run out and get 8, but they should have moved off XP long ago.
-byshop
theone86
Right, because we all run out and buy a new PC every time MS or Apple comes out with a new OS.
Not everytime, but windows xp is a very old and outdated os, I don't even know why anyone would still use it.[QUOTE="theone86"][QUOTE="Byshop"]
It's a 12 year old OS and regular support was discontinued for it in 2009. People don't have to run out and get 8, but they should have moved off XP long ago.
-byshop
deeliman
Right, because we all run out and buy a new PC every time MS or Apple comes out with a new OS.
Not everytime, but windows xp is a very old and outdated os, I don't even know why anyone would still use it.Because it still serves their purposes just fine?
There's still about 8 months left of Win XP patches. By then, everyone should have switched over to Win 7.
I'm surprised this is actually an issue. MS has never maintained "eternal" support for any older OSs. Even their best (Win 2000) was discontinued after about a decade.
Most of my works computers still use XP.
cain006
Businesses (particularly non-tech companies) can be notoriously slow to upgrade OSes because it's a pretty big undertaking. Mass conversion of desktops and servers to new OSes for large companies is actually a fair chunk of the business my company does.
-Byshop
Upgrading to 7 is something that I think most people already should've done. I personally can't see why anyone would want to switch to windows 8. It's worse in every way compared to windows 7 unless you have a touch screen device.Moriarity_Not really, windows 8 has faster start up and load times and the os uses less resources, plus if you really don't like the metro ui(like me) you could always download classic shell and get the normal start menu back.
There are so few improvements between XP and 7 that I have no intentions of getting 8. The only thing that ever changes is the appearance. And they simply copy Apple for that.SolidSnake35only thing really worth is more ram can be used.xp is limited to like 3 gigs.
[QUOTE="theone86"]
Right, because we all run out and buy a new PC every time MS or Apple comes out with a new OS.
Byshop
I think once a decade is pretty reasonable. That means you'll purchase a whole 5 or 6 OSes during your entire adult life. :P
-Byshop
Seriously. I don't understand why people think this is a big deal. If you haven't bought a new computer since Windows 7 came out, you're more than due for one. And if you don't want to buy a whole new computer, you don't have to. You can just upgrade the OS.Â
[QUOTE="Byshop"]
[QUOTE="theone86"]
Right, because we all run out and buy a new PC every time MS or Apple comes out with a new OS.
the_bi99man
I think once a decade is pretty reasonable. That means you'll purchase a whole 5 or 6 OSes during your entire adult life. :P
-Byshop
Seriously. I don't understand why people think this is a big deal. If you haven't bought a new computer since Windows 7 came out, you're more than due for one. And if you don't want to buy a whole new computer, you don't have to. You can just upgrade the OS.Â
What? :?[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]
[QUOTE="Byshop"]
I think once a decade is pretty reasonable. That means you'll purchase a whole 5 or 6 OSes during your entire adult life. :P
-Byshop
Hexagon_777
Seriously. I don't understand why people think this is a big deal. If you haven't bought a new computer since Windows 7 came out, you're more than due for one. And if you don't want to buy a whole new computer, you don't have to. You can just upgrade the OS.Â
What? :?It's 4 years old. Most people buy new computers faster than that. And even if you bought your last computer right before 7 came out, so it's only 4 years old, and still running XP (or, God forbid, Vista), you can just upgrade the OS. It's not difficult, or expensive, and expecting MS to continue supporting the ancient OS, even for as long as they have already, is asinine.
Truth be told, 7 at this point, in my opinion, has more than proved itself a worthy successor to XP.
8 can suck my balls tho.
What? :?[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]
[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]
Seriously. I don't understand why people think this is a big deal. If you haven't bought a new computer since Windows 7 came out, you're more than due for one. And if you don't want to buy a whole new computer, you don't have to. You can just upgrade the OS.Â
the_bi99man
It's 4 years old. Most people buy new computers faster than that. And even if you bought your last computer right before 7 came out, so it's only 4 years old, and still running XP (or, God forbid, Vista), you can just upgrade the OS. It's not difficult, or expensive, and expecting MS to continue supporting the ancient OS, even for as long as they have already, is asinine.
Upgrading the operating system, like you suggested, seems like a far more viable move than going ahead and buying a whole new computer, although for the common man it will still involve the spending of monies. Saying that people are more than due for a new computer after four years is ridiculous, though. I agree that you shouldn't expect that of Microsoft, but a whole new computer after four years = no.7 is godly. If you still use XP (lol why) chances are you're a casual user so it doesn't matter anyway.
[QUOTE="Moriarity_"]Upgrading to 7 is something that I think most people already should've done. I personally can't see why anyone would want to switch to windows 8. It's worse in every way compared to windows 7 unless you have a touch screen device.deelimanNot really, windows 8 has faster start up and load times and the os uses less resources, plus if you really don't like the metro ui(like me) you could always download classic shell and get the normal start menu back.
Yeah, there are actually a lot of new features in Win8 besides the new start menu that are big improvements over 7. People complain about Win 8 constantly, but every complaint I've ever seen has been about the UI and pretty much nothing else.
-Byshop
It's not difficult but it is somewhat expensive. For XP or Vista Basic you can't just buy the cheaper upgrade kit, you need to buy the full OS. It's reasonable to assume the specs on your XP computer are ancient and 7 will work pretty shitty on it.It's 4 years old. Most people buy new computers faster than that. And even if you bought your last computer right before 7 came out, so it's only 4 years old, and still running XP (or, God forbid, Vista), you can just upgrade the OS. It's not difficult, or expensive, and expecting MS to continue supporting the ancient OS, even for as long as they have already, is asinine.
the_bi99man
[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]
[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]What? :?
Hexagon_777
It's 4 years old. Most people buy new computers faster than that. And even if you bought your last computer right before 7 came out, so it's only 4 years old, and still running XP (or, God forbid, Vista), you can just upgrade the OS. It's not difficult, or expensive, and expecting MS to continue supporting the ancient OS, even for as long as they have already, is asinine.
Upgrading the operating system, like you suggested, seems like a far more viable move than going ahead and buying a whole new computer, although for the common man it will still involve the spending of monies. Saying that people are more than due for a new computer after four years is ridiculous, though. I agree that you shouldn't expect that of Microsoft, but a whole new computer after four years = no.I think what he meant was:XP is "ancient" in OS terms. If you skipped out on Vista, and haven't purchased a PC since XP's twilight days (when it stopped being installed on new retail machines, in 2007), you are more than due for a replacement machine.
In the years since XP's "middle age," low-end PCs have gotten a lot more powerful. Multi-core processors, larger-capacity HDDs, more RAM... none of which is supported by old XP, amnd 64-bit XP just never caught on (I've heard the horror stories).
Also, modern devices need drivers, and the best drivers at this moment are written for Vista/7/8 (in my professional opinion).
Ideally, you should have bought a PC with 7. Word-of-mouth for 8 was never positive, and that should have pushed those on the fencevto jump on 7 before the switch-over (/I just made it by a month).
As far as cost... if all you do is surf the web, check up on Facebook, and troll YouTube comments, a cheap upgrade isn't out of the question. I've seen laptops as cheap as $239, capable of doing the bare necessities without killing a budget. Put it on layaway, pay it off over 6-7 months, and you get an "upgrade" to 8 without going bankrupt.
Upgrading the operating system, like you suggested, seems like a far more viable move than going ahead and buying a whole new computer, although for the common man it will still involve the spending of monies. Saying that people are more than due for a new computer after four years is ridiculous, though. I agree that you shouldn't expect that of Microsoft, but a whole new computer after four years = no.I think what he meant was:[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]
[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]
It's 4 years old. Most people buy new computers faster than that. And even if you bought your last computer right before 7 came out, so it's only 4 years old, and still running XP (or, God forbid, Vista), you can just upgrade the OS. It's not difficult, or expensive, and expecting MS to continue supporting the ancient OS, even for as long as they have already, is asinine.
OrkHammer007
XP is "ancient" in OS terms. If you skipped out on Vista, and haven't purchased a PC since XP's twilight days (when it stopped being installed on new retail machines, in 2007), you are more than due for a replacement machine.
In the years since XP's "middle age," low-end PCs have gotten a lot more powerful. Multi-core processors, larger-capacity HDDs, more RAM... none of which is supported by old XP, amnd 64-bit XP just never caught on (I've heard the horror stories).
Also, modern devices need drivers, and the best drivers at this moment are written for Vista/7/8 (in my professional opinion).
Ideally, you should have bought a PC with 7. Word-of-mouth for 8 was never positive, and that should have pushed those on the fencevto jump on 7 before the switch-over (/I just made it by a month).
As far as cost... if all you do is surf the web, check up on Facebook, and troll YouTube comments, a cheap upgrade isn't out of the question. I've seen laptops as cheap as $239, capable of doing the bare necessities without killing a budget. Put it on layaway, pay it off over 6-7 months, and you get an "upgrade" to 8 without going bankrupt.
Pretty much. Thanks. :P
I think what he meant was:[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]
[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]Upgrading the operating system, like you suggested, seems like a far more viable move than going ahead and buying a whole new computer, although for the common man it will still involve the spending of monies. Saying that people are more than due for a new computer after four years is ridiculous, though. I agree that you shouldn't expect that of Microsoft, but a whole new computer after four years = no.
the_bi99man
XP is "ancient" in OS terms. If you skipped out on Vista, and haven't purchased a PC since XP's twilight days (when it stopped being installed on new retail machines, in 2007), you are more than due for a replacement machine.
In the years since XP's "middle age," low-end PCs have gotten a lot more powerful. Multi-core processors, larger-capacity HDDs, more RAM... none of which is supported by old XP, and 64-bit XP just never caught on (I've heard the horror stories).
Also, modern devices need drivers, and the best drivers at this moment are written for Vista/7/8 (in my professional opinion).
Ideally, you should have bought a PC with 7. Word-of-mouth for 8 was never positive, and that should have pushed those on the fencevto jump on 7 before the switch-over (/I just made it by a month).
As far as cost... if all you do is surf the web, check up on Facebook, and troll YouTube comments, a cheap upgrade isn't out of the question. I've seen laptops as cheap as $239, capable of doing the bare necessities without killing a budget. Put it on layaway, pay it off over 6-7 months, and you get an "upgrade" to 8 without going bankrupt.
Pretty much. Thanks. :P
No proble. It's what I tell the less tech-savvy of my friends and family, so I got the gist almost immediately.Upgrading the operating system, like you suggested, seems like a far more viable move than going ahead and buying a whole new computer, although for the common man it will still involve the spending of monies. Saying that people are more than due for a new computer after four years is ridiculous, though. I agree that you shouldn't expect that of Microsoft, but a whole new computer after four years = no.I think what he meant was:[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]
[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]
It's 4 years old. Most people buy new computers faster than that. And even if you bought your last computer right before 7 came out, so it's only 4 years old, and still running XP (or, God forbid, Vista), you can just upgrade the OS. It's not difficult, or expensive, and expecting MS to continue supporting the ancient OS, even for as long as they have already, is asinine.
OrkHammer007
XP is "ancient" in OS terms. If you skipped out on Vista, and haven't purchased a PC since XP's twilight days (when it stopped being installed on new retail machines, in 2007), you are more than due for a replacement machine.
In the years since XP's "middle age," low-end PCs have gotten a lot more powerful. Multi-core processors, larger-capacity HDDs, more RAM... none of which is supported by old XP, amnd 64-bit XP just never caught on (I've heard the horror stories).
Also, modern devices need drivers, and the best drivers at this moment are written for Vista/7/8 (in my professional opinion).
Ideally, you should have bought a PC with 7. Word-of-mouth for 8 was never positive, and that should have pushed those on the fencevto jump on 7 before the switch-over (/I just made it by a month).
As far as cost... if all you do is surf the web, check up on Facebook, and troll YouTube comments, a cheap upgrade isn't out of the question. I've seen laptops as cheap as $239, capable of doing the bare necessities without killing a budget. Put it on layaway, pay it off over 6-7 months, and you get an "upgrade" to 8 without going bankrupt.
That makes sense. I bought this laptop pretty much four years ago and it was running Windows Vista. Upgraded it to Windows 7 three years ago and haven't yet bothered upgrading it to a Linux distro of choice due to laziness, but it still handles my around 30 tabs in Firefox just fine.lol, why the hell are people still using a 12 year old OS? You haven't been able to buy a computer with XP on it retail for years and years. Time to get some modern technology in those households. ferrari2001If it suits their needs just fine and they see no reason to make a financial investment to change that, why do so?
If it suits their needs just fine and they see no reason to make a financial investment to change that, why do so?[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]lol, why the hell are people still using a 12 year old OS? You haven't been able to buy a computer with XP on it retail for years and years. Time to get some modern technology in those households. Hexagon_777
At this point, they should have moved onto Linux if we're talking about hardware THAT old but still functional.
[QUOTE="theone86"][QUOTE="Byshop"]
It's a 12 year old OS and regular support was discontinued for it in 2009. People don't have to run out and get 8, but they should have moved off XP long ago.
-byshop
deeliman
Right, because we all run out and buy a new PC every time MS or Apple comes out with a new OS.
Not everytime, but windows xp is a very old and outdated os, I don't even know why anyone would still use it.Because it's too expensive to buy a new PC, it costs money to upgrade, and your old PC doesn't have the specs for an upgrade.
If it suits their needs just fine and they see no reason to make a financial investment to change that, why do so? Probably one of the many reasons stealing someone's identity is so incredibly easy now days. Any half-baked hacker could exploit a security flaw in xp. Ignorance of technology should be no excuse to at least stay somewhat recent on your technological needs if for no other reason then to protect yourself and your private information. Now that microsoft has stopped fixing flaws it's only going to get worse to. What's worse is a large number of businesses are still using xp. Places that deal with other people's info are using and operating system that doesn't provide adequate protection of that information.[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]lol, why the hell are people still using a 12 year old OS? You haven't been able to buy a computer with XP on it retail for years and years. Time to get some modern technology in those households. Hexagon_777
If it suits their needs just fine and they see no reason to make a financial investment to change that, why do so?[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]
[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]lol, why the hell are people still using a 12 year old OS? You haven't been able to buy a computer with XP on it retail for years and years. Time to get some modern technology in those households. coolbeans90
At this point, they should have moved onto Linux if we're talking about hardware THAT old but still functional.
Don't be ridiculous. Linux is for hackers and completely unuseable for the general public. What if someone hacks the NSA by accident? What then? Can't expect the average Joe to deal that high above their paygrade.[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]
[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]If it suits their needs just fine and they see no reason to make a financial investment to change that, why do so?
Hexagon_777
At this point, they should have moved onto Linux if we're talking about hardware THAT old but still functional.
Don't be ridiculous. Linux is for hackers and completely unuseable for the general public. What if someone hacks the NSA by accident? What then? Can't expect the average Joe to deal that high above their paygrade.Hopefully they'll have mined enough Bitcoins to make it over the border.
It's cool, elementary OS is out and so gosh darn easy to use.Hexagon_777....I don't know what his problem is but I've never had an issue with windows fighting with me....and why is it a whole sale rip off of apple os?
W8 isn't all that bad.
Faster than W7 which is good for pc gamers. Just a terrible interface that I will never use unless I had a touchscreen ultrabook.
It was almost a year and a half ago that I finally upgraded to Windows 7 from the extremely outdated XP (and it really was quite slow with the increasing hardware requirements).
Best thing I ever did.
I'm totally skipping Windows 8, though. That's why it took me so long to upgrade, because I just simply won't need to until it starts showing its age.
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