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#1 Raiden004
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Ronnie Lee Gardner is in death row for murder but instead of something like gas or electric chair (i know they don't use it) he gets shot by a firing squad.

Heres the story:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37759499/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts?GT1=43001

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#2 Eleckidding
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What are we discussing here?
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#3 Blu_Falcon37
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And your point is?

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Since 2004 lethal injection has become the usual way of execution, but seeing as this guy and a few others were put on death row before 2004 they were able to choose other ways of execution, he chose to be shot in the heart by a bunch of guys.
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#5 konvikt_17
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i saw this on the news the other day.

i still think they should have used a different method of execution.

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#6 weezyfb
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ouch...
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#7 Raiden004
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And your point is?

Blu_Falcon37

I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

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#8 Eleckidding
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[QUOTE="Blu_Falcon37"]

And your point is?

Raiden004

I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

Why?
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#9 Tezcatlipoca666
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I'm glad. It must be far worse to fry or be injected. I would also have chosen the firing squad if I were him.

And it's no more barbaric than hanging people or stapping them to a table.

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#10 Raiden004
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[QUOTE="Raiden004"]

[QUOTE="Blu_Falcon37"]

And your point is?

Eleckidding

I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

Why?

Why what?

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#11 crazymonkey092
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i saw this on the news the other day.

i still think they should have used a different method of execution.

konvikt_17
Eh, he chose to be executed this way, so I don't see the problem.
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#12 dkdk999
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What are we discussing here?Eleckidding
what do you think?
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#13 Blu_Falcon37
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[QUOTE="Blu_Falcon37"]

And your point is?

Raiden004

I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

Hmm...ok. I always thought it was stupid that most states only use lethal injection. A firing squad ends in the same result and is a hell of a lot cheaper.

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#14 Laserwolf65
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[QUOTE="Raiden004"]

[QUOTE="Blu_Falcon37"]

And your point is?

I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

If it could be assured that death was painless and instant, I wouldn't be against it. Seeing as I have no info on whether or not it meets those two requirements, I'm still on the fence about it.
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#15 Raiden004
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[QUOTE="Raiden004"]

[QUOTE="Blu_Falcon37"]

And your point is?

Laserwolf65

I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

If it could be assured that death was painless and instant, I wouldn't be against it. Seeing as I have no info on whether or not it meets those two requirements, I'm still on the fence about it.

Im not against it. Its just different to me from what I've heard.

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#16 weezyfb
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[QUOTE="Raiden004"]

[QUOTE="Blu_Falcon37"]

And your point is?

Blu_Falcon37

I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

Hmm...ok. I always thought it was stupid that most states only use lethal injection. A firing squad ends in the same result and is a hell of a lot cheaper.

tying a guy to a post and machine gunning him is pretty outdated
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#17 Eleckidding
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[QUOTE="Laserwolf65"][QUOTE="Raiden004"]

[QUOTE="Blu_Falcon37"]

And your point is?

I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

If it could be assured that death was painless and instant, I wouldn't be against it. Seeing as I have no info on whether or not it meets those two requirements, I'm still on the fence about it.

It isn't supposed to be painless. It's supposed to hurt.
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Since 2004 lethal injection has become the usual way of execution, but seeing as this guy and a few others were put on death row before 2004 they were able to choose other ways of execution, he chose to be shot in the heart by a bunch of guys.Brainkiller05
I'm a bad person, because I instantly thought of this
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Since 2004 lethal injection has become the usual way of execution, but seeing as this guy and a few others were put on death row before 2004 they were able to choose other ways of execution, he chose to be shot in the heart by a bunch of guys.Brainkiller05

after watching Law Abiding Citizen yesterday, I think I will be shot too lol

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#20 Eleckidding
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[QUOTE="Blu_Falcon37"]

[QUOTE="Raiden004"] I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

weezyfb

Hmm...ok. I always thought it was stupid that most states only use lethal injection. A firing squad ends in the same result and is a hell of a lot cheaper.

tying a guy to a post and machine gunning him is pretty outdated

Only one gun actually has bullets.
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#21 Raiden004
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[QUOTE="Blu_Falcon37"]

[QUOTE="Raiden004"] I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

weezyfb

Hmm...ok. I always thought it was stupid that most states only use lethal injection. A firing squad ends in the same result and is a hell of a lot cheaper.

tying a guy to a post and machine gunning him is pretty outdated

I would say Old-School rather than that.

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Whoa that's messy business.

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I don't get what the big deal is. I'm against the death penalty, I'm more for letting them rot in a cell but I don't see how anyone finds this different from an electric chair or lethal injection. If he dies, he dies, I don't see what the difference is.
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I wonder if they still use blanks for the executions like they used to for firing squads so the people doing the shooting wouldn't really know if they killed him.

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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Since 2004 lethal injection has become the usual way of execution, but seeing as this guy and a few others were put on death row before 2004 they were able to choose other ways of execution, he chose to be shot in the heart by a bunch of guys.xaos
I'm a bad person, because I instantly thought of this

I would argue you're a better person for thinking of Bon Jovi... Also, Gardner chose that method for his execution
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#26 Eleckidding
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I wonder if they still use blanks for the executions like they used to for firing squads so the people doing the shooting wouldn't really know if they killed him.

hkmp5a2
Pretty sure it's still like that.
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[QUOTE="Blu_Falcon37"]

[QUOTE="Raiden004"] I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

weezyfb

Hmm...ok. I always thought it was stupid that most states only use lethal injection. A firing squad ends in the same result and is a hell of a lot cheaper.

tying a guy to a post and machine gunning him is pretty outdated

They don't use machine guns, just regular rifles. Five guys take a rifle at random, four have real shells, one has a blank.

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#28 konvikt_17
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[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

i saw this on the news the other day.

i still think they should have used a different method of execution.

crazymonkey092

Eh, he chose to be executed this way, so I don't see the problem.

oh ok. didnt know that he chose it:P

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#29 IronBeaver
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I would have yelled "FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!"

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[QUOTE="Blu_Falcon37"]

[QUOTE="Raiden004"] I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

weezyfb

Hmm...ok. I always thought it was stupid that most states only use lethal injection. A firing squad ends in the same result and is a hell of a lot cheaper.

tying a guy to a post and machine gunning him is pretty outdated

Outdated? Maybe. But seeing that a lot of lethal injections don't work the first time, I'd rather take the more sure fire way.

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That's awesome. Did he get a blind fold and a cigarette?
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#32 hkmp5a2
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[QUOTE="crazymonkey092"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

i saw this on the news the other day.

i still think they should have used a different method of execution.

konvikt_17

Eh, he chose to be executed this way, so I don't see the problem.

oh ok. didnt know that he chose it:P

sometimes them choosing isn't always the best option. I remember the case in which some teens chose the gas chamber thinking they wouldn't follow through with it since it's such a long and painfull death. They gassed them.

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#33 little-kitty
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So since one bullet is real, what happens if he doesn't die right away then? Do they run up and shoot him again or something?? :shock:

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[QUOTE="Blu_Falcon37"]

[QUOTE="Raiden004"] I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

weezyfb

Hmm...ok. I always thought it was stupid that most states only use lethal injection. A firing squad ends in the same result and is a hell of a lot cheaper.

tying a guy to a post and machine gunning him is pretty outdated

They use rifles and while there are several people pointing a gun at the guy getting executed only one of their guns actually has bullets in it. The others are all blanks. The reason they do that is to remove any sense of guilt the executioners have since after the execution no one knows who really killed the guy.
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#35 Raiden004
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So since one bullet is real, what happens if he doesn't die right away then? Do they run up and shoot him again or something?? :shock:

little-kitty

Yep just get a head shot next time! :twisted:

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[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="crazymonkey092"] Eh, he chose to be executed this way, so I don't see the problem. hkmp5a2

oh ok. didnt know that he chose it:P

sometimes them choosing isn't always the best option. I remember the case in which some teens chose the gas chamber thinking they wouldn't follow through with it since it's such a long and painfull death. They gassed them.

Teens got the death penalty?
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[QUOTE="Laserwolf65"][QUOTE="Raiden004"] I saw it on MSN news and was like :shock: whoa. I have nothing against death penalty but getting shot was different.

Eleckidding

If it could be assured that death was painless and instant, I wouldn't be against it. Seeing as I have no info on whether or not it meets those two requirements, I'm still on the fence about it.

It isn't supposed to be painless. It's supposed to hurt.

Um... it is supposed to be painless. Making someone suffer would be cruel and unusual punishment

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#38 Eleckidding
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[QUOTE="Eleckidding"][QUOTE="Laserwolf65"] If it could be assured that death was painless and instant, I wouldn't be against it. Seeing as I have no info on whether or not it meets those two requirements, I'm still on the fence about it.Laserwolf65

It isn't supposed to be painless. It's supposed to hurt.

Um... it is supposed to be painless. Making someone suffer would be cruel and unusual punishment

Lethal Injection is borderline torture.
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[QUOTE="Eleckidding"][QUOTE="Laserwolf65"]

It isn't supposed to be painless. It's supposed to hurt.Eleckidding
Um... it is supposed to be painless. Making someone suffer would be cruel and unusual punishment

Lethal Injection is borderline torture.

I'm not very schooled on the subject... how is it torture?
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#40 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="Laserwolf65"]

[QUOTE="Eleckidding"] It isn't supposed to be painless. It's supposed to hurt.Eleckidding

Um... it is supposed to be painless. Making someone suffer would be cruel and unusual punishment

Lethal Injection is borderline torture.

It is supposed to be painless, and, when things go as planned, lethal injection is in no way torture, though there have been cases that went poorly. Between this post and the quoted one above, I'm wondering if you are serious
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#41 hkmp5a2
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[QUOTE="hkmp5a2"]

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

oh ok. didnt know that he chose it:P

Eleckidding

sometimes them choosing isn't always the best option. I remember the case in which some teens chose the gas chamber thinking they wouldn't follow through with it since it's such a long and painfull death. They gassed them.

Teens got the death penalty?

"John Anthony Soto, convicted of murdering two men and one woman in Umatilla County, and who at age 17 became the youngest person ever executed in Oregon."

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#42 Mystic-G
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I wonder if they still use blanks for the executions like they used to for firing squads so the people doing the shooting wouldn't really know if they killed him.

hkmp5a2
They do. In this case it was 5 men, one person has a blank round. Doesn't leave much mystery though when you have 4:5 chance of having a live round. Hell, if you're gonna go do that you might aswell go into assuming you're the one that killed him or took part in it before the moment he was truly dead.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Since 2004 lethal injection has become the usual way of execution, but seeing as this guy and a few others were put on death row before 2004 they were able to choose other ways of execution, he chose to be shot in the heart by a bunch of guys.xaos
I'm a bad person, because I instantly thought of this

Before I clicked on your link, I said "please God let it be Bon Jovi"
...you did not disappoint

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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Since 2004 lethal injection has become the usual way of execution, but seeing as this guy and a few others were put on death row before 2004 they were able to choose other ways of execution, he chose to be shot in the heart by a bunch of guys.rawsavon

I'm a bad person, because I instantly thought of this

Before I clicked on your link, I said "please God let it be Bon Jovi"
...you did not disappoint

I try to never disappoint you :oops:
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#45 Tezcatlipoca666
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[QUOTE="hkmp5a2"]

I wonder if they still use blanks for the executions like they used to for firing squads so the people doing the shooting wouldn't really know if they killed him.

Mystic-G

They do. In this case it was 5 men, one person has a blank round. Doesn't leave much mystery though when you have 4:5 chance of having a live round. Hell, if you're gonna go do that you might aswell go into assuming you're the one that killed him or took part in it before the moment he was truly dead.

I don't get why they bother with blanks. It's an execution, if you don't want to be the one who killed him you shouldn't be part of the firing squad in the first place.

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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="hkmp5a2"]

I wonder if they still use blanks for the executions like they used to for firing squads so the people doing the shooting wouldn't really know if they killed him.

Tezcatlipoca666

They do. In this case it was 5 men, one person has a blank round. Doesn't leave much mystery though when you have 4:5 chance of having a live round. Hell, if you're gonna go do that you might aswell go into assuming you're the one that killed him or took part in it before the moment he was truly dead.

I don't get why they bother with blanks. It's an execution, if you don't want to be the one who killed him you shouldn't be part of the firing squad in the first place.

Yeah, it's also kinda annoying that they use them to fall back on. You're right, though i guess down the line there might be sleepless nights for you, knowing you killed a guy, I guess the doubt of the rubber bullet is so you think "well maybe it wasn't me"; but it's still the same, you still pointed the gun at him and shot.
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Execution is all the same.

It doesn't really matter what happens because he's just going to end up the same way. :?

That's what I think anyway.

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That's pretty gnarly!!! I would personally pick getting stoned to death though!!!
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#49 194197844077667059316682358889
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Execution is all the same.

It doesn't really matter what happens because he's just going to end up the same way. :?

That's what I think anyway.

Crazyguy105
So being given a poison that makes you fall asleep and never wake up is the same as being slowly tortured to death over the course of a few days?
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]Since 2004 lethal injection has become the usual way of execution, but seeing as this guy and a few others were put on death row before 2004 they were able to choose other ways of execution, he chose to be shot in the heart by a bunch of guys.xaos
I'm a bad person, because I instantly thought of this

I thought of this instead.