It is time to end our addiction to oil.

Agreed? I mean, why do we insist on keeping ourselves chained to such a finite, and truly archaic fuel source that does more harm to our world than good? If we should take anything from the catastrophe in the Gulf, it's that we need to end our dependence on oil so we can end these environmental disasters and an huge dependence on foreign countries. The technology is getting easier and cheaper every year, and green energy will bring jobs, but it's going to require sacrifice from everyone. Hopefully this growing disaster will make enough people in our country realize that the time is NOW to move past oil and into renewable energy.

That takes time, effort, work and commitment. The general populace doesnt want that, they want things done easy and quickly for themserved on a silver platter. Also, oil companies. Otherwise it would have been accomplished by now.

I can quit whenever I want!

I can quit whenever I want!

entropyecho

Uh huh PROVE it! I saw you yesterday, in the bathroom, with that straw and can of oil... :x

How?

It's not like the government is going to take major steps in that direction. The corporations own and control Washingston D.C. (and that includes the oil companies).

Agreed? I mean, why do we insist on keeping ourselves chained to such a finite, and truly archaic fuel source that does more harm to our world than good? If we should take anything from the catastrophe in the Gulf, it's that we need to end our dependence on oil so we can end these environmental disasters and an huge dependence on foreign countries. The technology is getting easier and cheaper every year, and green energy will bring jobs, but it's going to require sacrifice from everyone. Hopefully this growing disaster will make enough people in our country realize that the time is NOW to move past oil and into renewable energy.

MystikFollower

we will when it becomes prohibitively expensive. until then...comp_atkins

Unfortunately we probably will end our addiction to oil, when there is no more oil. By that time though, it'll likely be too late and we'll probably destroy ourselves fighting over what's left.

I can quit whenever I want!

entropyecho

I'm not addicted to oil?

No other alternative produces the same amount of energy output per unit or whatever that gasoline/oil does. It's a highly efficient form of energy, despite the environmental drawbacks. The goal isn't to simply find alternative fuel sources, it's to also reduce our mass consumption of energy. As a nation, we use sooooooo much energy, no other fuel source can keep up with current demand. Try telling 300 million people to use cars, tv's, computers, cell phones, video game consoles, lights, washers, dryers, dishwashers, stoves, air conditioners, heaters, etc 50-80% less than they are now and see what response you get. They'll lynch you.meteo_ryte

Yeah you're probably right, and it's one of things that makes me hate society on a worldwide scale. The person is rather intelligent, but peopleare dumb, panicky, and quick to need everything as easy as possible. At least here in America. The only thing that worries me, is what is those 300 million people going to do when we run out of oil. I'm surprised more oil companies aren't all over the green tech thing, seeing as their's is an industry with an inevitable demise.

Nuclear energy FTW - it's extremely clean (although not as clean as solar/wind, but produces hundreds of times the power).

But when it comes to powering vehicles, please come up with an alternative to oil that isn't ridiculous or inefficient.

Nuclear energy FTW - it's extremely clean (although not as clean as solar/wind, but produces hundreds of times the power).

But when it comes to powering vehicles, please come up with an alternative to oil that isn't ridiculous or inefficient.

Saturos3091

We can power our cars with............................DOUBLE SUN POWER!! Sorry, don't know if anyone will get the Old Spice reference :P.

I agree completely, but sadly just not everyone will want to do that.

we do need to move on but its hard when big oil and car companys try to stop any change at every turn . we already have had electric cars for years but companys like gm rounded them all up and trashed them .

we do need to move on but its hard when big oil and car companys try to stop any change at every turn . we already have had electric cars for years but companys like gm rounded them all up and trashed them .

dontshackzmii

Yeah and they are the ones who SHOULD be on the forefront of finding alternatives to oil, since I'm sure they realize it's ultimately unsustainable. The people in charge however probably can't see past their own wallets, so they don't care about what could happen in 100 years.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]we will when it becomes prohibitively expensive. until then...MystikFollower

Unfortunately we probably will end our addiction to oil, when there is no more oil. By that time though, it'll likely be too late and we'll probably destroy ourselves fighting over what's left.

[QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]we will when it becomes prohibitively expensive. until then...comp_atkins

Unfortunately we probably will end our addiction to oil, when there is no more oil. By that time though, it'll likely be too late and we'll probably destroy ourselves fighting over what's left.

Just kinda sucks to know it'll be my kids and grandkids who suffer because of our society's voracious addiction...:( Almost makes me not want to bring children into this world..

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

we do need to move on but its hard when big oil and car companys try to stop any change at every turn . we already have had electric cars for years but companys like gm rounded them all up and trashed them .

MystikFollower

Yeah and they are the ones who SHOULD be on the forefront of finding alternatives to oil, since I'm sure they realize it's ultimately unsustainable. The people in charge however probably can't see past their own wallets, so they don't care about what could happen in 100 years.

Business does not care about long term (100 years), it's all about the short term to them. For an example, look at the economic collapse.

im voting for you during elections my friend

Because oil is so cheap, and politicians are lazy.

American presidents since LBJ have been promising "radical" energy changes. The only one who did anything somewhat significant was surprisingly Nixon.

Too much $$ is made by the oil companies and the scumbag politicians who bend rulz for them.

I believe theusageof water will becomeadapted and used instead of oil eventually.

I'll stop using oil when alternatives become cheaper...

nobody wants to do what's hard. as long as things are cheap, and accessible they will continue along this path. They'd rather suffer huge consequences later than minimal ones in the short term. you see this behavior with all forms of capitalism. It does not encourage progress in terms of rationality. It's entirely motivated by profit and accessibility. Why are so many Americans obese? Because food is cheap, specifically the kind you shouldn't be eating. You want whole wheat bread? That's an extra dollar or two per loaf. And most people aren't willing to make those decisions when it comes to money. This is why capitalism is primitive, inefficient economic system that stifles true progress by creating a false sense of progress by showing.. hey look we made more money selling hot dogs than last year. that's how capitalism determines progress. And why oil isnt' going to go away any time soon.

I believe theusageof water will becomeadapted and used instead of oil eventually.

The_Gaming_Baby

nobody wants to do what's hard. as long as things are cheap, and accessible they will continue along this path. They'd rather suffer huge consequences later than minimal ones in the short term. you see this behavior with all forms of capitalism. It does not encourage progress in terms of rationality. It's entirely motivated by profit and accessibility. Why are so many Americans obese? Because food is cheap, specifically the kind you shouldn't be eating. You want whole wheat bread? That's an extra dollar or two per loaf. And most people aren't willing to make those decisions when it comes to money. This is why capitalism is primitive, inefficient economic system that stifles true progress by creating a false sense of progress by showing.. hey look we made more money selling hot dogs than last year. that's how capitalism determines progress. And why oil isnt' going to go away any time soon.

EMOEVOLUTION

Unfortunately you speak truth. I'll be on to another life at least before our world suffers the worst consequences of it's addiction.

Honestly I don't think we will break dependance. My strategy for for reducing it is complex though.

-First and formost we need to R&D some sort of synthetic crude oil that can be producing on a cheap and mass level. They have done it at my college but it is a bit expensive but on a mass level price would go down.

-Second would be expanding nuclear energy to a mass level to be used with my third step.

-My third step would be redoing the distribution of the gas tax for funding to redo the national highway infrastructure to include a third set of lanes to the interstate system. That set of lanes would be used to make a rail system similar to the rail system in san francisco used for rail carts. Use it to power a new breed of semis that can run off both electric and diesel. Electric used while on the interstate and diesel used when not. It would make transportation of products cheaper and more efficient. Eventually cars would be able to use that rail system too.

the problem is we let greedy people who only care about money make all the choices. thats why we been going no where . Most companys will never want to take a hige risk . The government really need to step in and push away from oil .

Maybe when Tesla Roadsters aren't $100,000+. They need a $10,000 version of the Roadster, then maybe we can start moving people onto electric cars.

we will when it becomes prohibitively expensive. until then...comp_atkins

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]we will when it becomes prohibitively expensive. until then...Treesmash

Because society will go for the easier more destructive path any day over what is the more intelligent course of action just to save a few bucks.

The technology is getting easier and cheaper? What technology? Tell me, what source of energy do we have available that can currently totally replace our reliance on oil?ElZilcho90

It's so integrated into the global society that if we just stop completely, everything will collapse. We have to slowly force ourselves off the oil. The only problems are there's no cheap, unlimited, and pollution free energy source anywhere. We probably would have to make synthetic oil and I fear that we will destroy ourselves long before that happens either by massive pollution of Earth or wars that ultimately end in a nuclear holocaust. l4dak47

So basically in this situation we're damned if we do, and damned if we don't huh?

[QUOTE="ElZilcho90"]The technology is getting easier and cheaper? What technology? Tell me, what source of energy do we have available that can currently totally replace our reliance on oil?chopperdave447

[QUOTE="l4dak47"]It's so integrated into the global society that if we just stop completely, everything will collapse. We have to slowly force ourselves off the oil. The only problems are there's no cheap, unlimited, and pollution free energy source anywhere. We probably would have to make synthetic oil and I fear that we will destroy ourselves long before that happens either by massive pollution of Earth or wars that ultimately end in a nuclear holocaust. MystikFollower

So basically in this situation we're damned if we do, and damned if we don't huh?

Agreed? I mean, why do we insist on keeping ourselves chained to such a finite, and truly archaic fuel source that does more harm to our world than good? If we should take anything from the catastrophe in the Gulf, it's that we need to end our dependence on oil so we can end these environmental disasters and an huge dependence on foreign countries. The technology is getting easier and cheaper every year, and green energy will bring jobs, but it's going to require sacrifice from everyone. Hopefully this growing disaster will make enough people in our country realize that the time is NOW to move past oil and into renewable energy.