I just saw INCEPTION......

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Good movie, but definitely not the best ever, or even the best this year. (The Social Network)

testfactor888

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You make good points. Its a fun ride, but its concepts were pretty dopey when you think about them.

testfactor888

[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="HaloReachGOTY"]the social network got a 8.3 with 38,231 votes. inception got a 9.0 with 231,173 votes. (imdb.com). the ppl have spoken. the social network is no where as popular as inception nor is it on the same level.

HaloReachGOTY

[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="HaloReachGOTY"]have you had a lucid dream before? or waking up within a dream? nolan has done his homework. its not silly at all.

HaloReachGOTY

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Or maybe they just thought the whole concept was a bit silly and farfetched?

Dream security systems (in the form of bald generic bad guys, of course)? (Literal) safes in my dreams that happen to store away my deepest secrets? Being able to trick someone into thinking your someone else, just by acting out their mannerisms (even though the guy is still staring directly at you)?

There were some more things, but it's been awhile so I've forgotten them, but regardless, I didn't really buy any of it. I guess it works if you don't think about the rules Nolan's created too much, but I can't help but notice that it's just not solid.

HaloReachGOTY

You make good points. Its a fun ride, but its concepts were pretty dopey when you think about them.

Dream security systems with guards and stuff like that is indeed very silly, almost videogamish.

That sort of stuff would have come off as really cool if the movie didn't take itself seriously, but it does, and so it's not.

Have you seen a Sci-Fi movie? Humanity connected to virtual reality and being used as bateries sounds silly. Maybe The Matrix should have been a comedy?

It's called suspension of disbelief. If you can't do it don't watch Sci-Fi movies.

Can't wait for the blu raycodesrc

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You make good points. Its a fun ride, but its concepts were pretty dopey when you think about them.

GreySeal9

Dream security systems with guards and stuff like that is indeed very silly, almost videogamish.

That sort of stuff would have come off as really cool if the movie didn't take itself seriously, but it does, and so it's not.

the social network got a 8.3 with 38,231 votes. inception got a 9.0 with 231,173 votes. (imdb.com). the ppl have spoken. the social network is no where as popular as inception nor is it on the same level.

HaloReachGOTY

You're citing IMDB as if it's credible.

If you want to play that game..

The Social Network - 97%/9.0 Average Rating

Inception - 87%/8.0 Average Rating

Have you seen a Sci-Fi movie? Humanity connected to virtual reality and being used as bateries sounds silly. Maybe The Matrix should have been a comedy?

It's called suspension of disbelief. If you can't do it don't watch Sci-Fi movies.

GeneralShowzer

Well, I do think sci-fi is pretty bad for the most part.

[QUOTE="HaloReachGOTY"]the social network got a 8.3 with 38,231 votes. inception got a 9.0 with 231,173 votes. (imdb.com). the ppl have spoken. the social network is no where as popular as inception nor is it on the same level.

sammyjenkis898

You're citing IMDB as if it's credible.

If you want to play that game..

The Social Network - 97%/9.0 Average Rating

Inception - 87%/8.0 Average Rating

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="HaloReachGOTY"]have you had a lucid dream before? or waking up within a dream? nolan has done his homework. its not silly at all.

HaloReachGOTY

Dream security systems with guards and stuff like that is indeed very silly, almost videogamish.

That sort of stuff would have come off as really cool if the movie didn't take itself seriously, but it does, and so it's not.

Well, I didn't say it's the craziest out there. I just think its sort of dopey, even by sci-fi standards. And it took itself so damn seriously.

I was underwhelmed by it. After seeing the trailers, I thought I was in for more of a psychological thriller with a grand scope. They got the second part right.. kind of. Besides Dicaprio, the characters were uninteresting. The core of the entire film was this "love" story between Dicaprio and Cotillard, which I grew tired of more and more as the film went by. I also didn't understand why Page's character was so obsessed with that whole side of Dicaprio. Nolan still can't shoot action. That sequence with Dicaprio running away from the men in the beginning was incoherent. It was hard to tell what was even going on. It had an awesome action sequence, but aside from that I didn't find much to like about it. I don't know how the film is "complex."sammyjenkis898

Ariadne was interested in it because she wanted to know how emotionally affecting it was to Cobb's conscience. She knew that he was jeopardising the mission by hiding something emotional that could emerge and disrupt the dream worlds. They would be stuck in limbo too if those dreams collapsed because of that.

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[QUOTE="TheGrayEye"]

Or maybe they just thought the whole concept was a bit silly and farfetched?

Dream security systems (in the form of bald generic bad guys, of course)? (Literal) safes in my dreams that happen to store away my deepest secrets? Being able to trick someone into thinking your someone else, just by acting out their mannerisms (even though the guy is still staring directly at you)?

There were some more things, but it's been awhile so I've forgotten them, but regardless, I didn't really buy any of it. I guess it works if you don't think about the rules Nolan's created too much, but I can't help but notice that it's just not solid.

HaloReachGOTY

You make good points. Its a fun ride, but its concepts were pretty dopey when you think about them.

He did his homework in relation to the things I mentioned? How did he do that, did he go inside his friends dreams one night and experience all of this stuff? Or did he just come up with it so he can have an excuse to make an action movie in which two guys can fight in zero gravity?

Like I said, I think the people who really love Inception, are actually the ones who are NOT thinking too hard about it, specifically in regard to the rules and world Nolan has established here (though they many be quite analytical in regards to the ending theories and other such elements).

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

You make good points. Its a fun ride, but its concepts were pretty dopey when you think about them.

TheGrayEye

He did his homework in relation to the things I mentioned? How did he do that, did he go inside his friends dreams one night and experience all of this stuff? Or did he just come up with it so he can have an excuse to make an action movie in which two guys can fight in zero gravity?

Like I said, I think the people who really love Inception, are actually the ones who are NOT thinking too hard about it, specifically in regard to the rules and world Nolan has established here (though they many be quite analytical in regards to the ending theories and other such elements).

Have you seen a Sci-Fi movie? Humanity connected to virtual reality and being used as bateries sounds silly. Maybe The Matrix should have been a comedy?

It's called suspension of disbelief. If you can't do it don't watch Sci-Fi movies.

GeneralShowzer

Sci-fi is probably my favorite film genre, but I think Inception tipped a whole more to the fantasy side of the scale, than it did legitimate science fiction.

Inception isn't even in the running for that title. It was a decent film, at best, and Nolan has done much better in the past.

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[QUOTE="HaloReachGOTY"]have you had a lucid dream before? or waking up within a dream? nolan has done his homework. its not silly at all.

biggest_loser

He did his homework in relation to the things I mentioned? How did he do that, did he go inside his friends dreams one night and experience all of this stuff? Or did he just come up with it so he can have an excuse to make an action movie in which two guys can fight in zero gravity?

Like I said, I think the people who really love Inception, are actually the ones who are NOT thinking too hard about it, specifically in regard to the rules and world Nolan has established here (though they many be quite analytical in regards to the ending theories and other such elements).

I'm sure the film has several components which are actually quite consistent with what the scientific consensus is in regards to some aspects of actual dreaming, such as maybe the slower sense of time within the dream.

But I really doubt that in the case of some of the other elements I mentioned (dream security guards...).

Superb film, but not even close to being the best ever made.

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]I was underwhelmed by it. After seeing the trailers, I thought I was in for more of a psychological thriller with a grand scope. They got the second part right.. kind of. Besides Dicaprio, the characters were uninteresting. The core of the entire film was this "love" story between Dicaprio and Cotillard, which I grew tired of more and more as the film went by. I also didn't understand why Page's character was so obsessed with that whole side of Dicaprio. Nolan still can't shoot action. That sequence with Dicaprio running away from the men in the beginning was incoherent. It was hard to tell what was even going on. It had an awesome action sequence, but aside from that I didn't find much to like about it. I don't know how the film is "complex."biggest_loser

Ariadne was interested in it because she wanted to know how emotionally affecting it was to Cobb's conscience. She knew that he was jeopardising the mission by hiding something emotional that could emerge and disrupt the dream worlds. They would be stuck in limbo too if those dreams collapsed because of that.

That doesn't answer my question. Yeah, I got that. I want to know whyshe desperately wanted to know. It seems like Nolan threw her in for the sole reason of that purpose. In other words, she was a cardboard cutout character, just like the rest of the side characters.

Dream security systems with guards and stuff like that is indeed very silly, almost videogamish.GreySeal9

It was pretty entertaining. Wouldn't watch it again anytime soon though.

It's a shame that it's so unimaginative and rigid (rigid except when the established rules are changed to accommodate the plot :/). Such a great concept was almost entirely wasted...

And Ariadne was an incredibly lame name choice.