Have any Obama supporters defended the phone data collection?

Have any Obama supporters on this board defended the phone data collection?

I want to know what how people have reacted on the other side of the debate.  

Have any Obama supporters on this board defended the phone data collection?

I want to know what how people have reacted on the other side of the debate.  

biggest_loser

I haven't and wouldn't.

The thing about the Democrats is they're only the less evil party.  That doesn't make them the good guys.  There still evil.  But everyone knows damn well that the alternative would be no different.  A President Romney wouldn't even hesitate with these kind of violations.   

Have any Obama supporters on this board defended the phone data collection?

I want to know what how people have reacted on the other side of the debate.  

biggest_loser

"On the other side of the debate" implies this is a partisan liberal vs conservative, republican vs democrat debate. The whole edifice of government is rotten on this one.

I don't defend it. but this administration isn't the only one that's done it, and I see far more pissy people now than when the Patriot act was first passed. People didn't care as much about privacy 10 years ago.

I don't defend it. but this administration isn't the only one that's done it, and I see far more pissy people now than when the Patriot act was first passed. People didn't care as much about privacy 10 years ago.

jimkabrhel

I don't really know of almost anyone who supports this, Democrat, Republican, or otherwise. [QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

I don't defend it. but this administration isn't the only one that's done it, and I see far more pissy people now than when the Patriot act was first passed. People didn't care as much about privacy 10 years ago.

chessmaster1989

I did my part, voting for Russ. Democrats didn't come out in 2010 in Wisconsin. I really hope Russ gets back into politics.

I will I have because I do NOT CARE. We have more important problems in the World than this. I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA.

I will I have because I do NOT CARE. We have more important problems in the World than this. I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA.

Floridaman46

I see no reason why anyone who considers himself/herself a "libertarian" could support that cult of cavemen that is the Republican party. I also see no reason why anyone who considers himself/herself a progressive could support a party whose views on the economy, foreign affairs, colonialism, police state and whatnot are pretty much exactly like the Republican party's, just without all the blatant racism and homophobia.

I see no reason why anyone who considers himself/herself a "libertarian" could support that cult of cavemen that is the Republican party. I also see no reason why anyone who considers himself/herself a progressive could support a party whose views on the economy, foreign affairs, colonialism, police state and whatnot are pretty much exactly like the Republican party's, just without all the blatant racism and homophobia.

LordQuorthon

Because if they want to actually accomplish anything politically, they are shut out by law and practice from doing anything unless they identify with those parties.

On topic: I defend this.

I hope some day all of this surveillance and the likes goes away and then we get attacked... I would love to see the hypocrisy that emerges when everyone complains about how the government didn't do enough.  Also they listen to us anyways... At least Obama comes out and says they are listening, Bush didn't even say that.  So it happens regardless, thankfully since the 2004 Intelligence Reform Act, US Intelligence is a well oiled machine compared to how it used to be and a bureaucratic pool of several different chains of command and checks and balances... As well as competing chains of command (SecDef vs DNI, etc)... If it were 2001 and I were hearing all of this I would be scared, but its 2013 and there has been much reform since 9/11.

inb4 someone quotes Benjamin Franklin "freedom/security" 

At least Obama comes out and says they are listening, Bush didn't even say that. Squeets

[QUOTE="Squeets"]At least Obama comes out and says they are listening, Bush didn't even say that. MrPraline

It will help in preventing terrorist attacks.

Obama just wants to catch those responsible for leaking his fake birth certificate.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Squeets"]At least Obama comes out and says they are listening, Bush didn't even say that. Yusuke420

It will help in preventing terrorist attacks.

call_of_duty_10

Yep. Very dangerous man. With a fedgov like this you do not even need foreign enemies.MrPraline

Yes some people defend that sh!t.

Some people would eat a mile of Obama's sh!t if it led straight to his a$$ so they can kiss it. 

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

It will help in preventing terrorist attacks.

MrPraline

I'm alost never on the phone ane rarely text.....I could care less.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]Yep. Very dangerous man. With a fedgov like this you do not even need foreign enemies.UCF_Knight

Its pretty terrible. The problem is both the Repubs and Dems both like increasing these types of govt powers/

The attacks against it aren't done on principle of privacy, they're done to attack the president, clearly evident since conservatives didn't go apeshit when Bush did it.lamprey263

I wish frannkzappa was here to tell me his opinions on this specific topic.

I wish frannkzappa was here to tell me his opinions on this specific topic.

coolbeans90

I will I have because I do NOT CARE. We have more important problems in the World than this. I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA.

Floridaman46

Setting joke term asides and breaking the blue red paradigm. F*ck em all. Private lives are none of the .gov's business. Fear mongering or not.MrPraline

[QUOTE="MrPraline"]Setting joke term asides and breaking the blue red paradigm. F*ck em all. Private lives are none of the .gov's business. Fear mongering or not.El_Zo1212o

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Ackad

Doesn't really matter so I don't care about it.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

It will help in preventing terrorist attacks.

call_of_duty_10

1. Do you really think that the NSA listening in on everyone's phone sex is really doing anything to stop terror attacks? Or your phone calls to grandma and grandpa? At this point, criminals under legally-acquired wire taps have more rights.

2. Innocent calls to terror-supporting nations can set up the wrong flags. If an immigrant from Iran calls his family back in the old country, does that make him a terror supporter? It sure makes him a suspect.

If you want an inside track to the Presidency in 2016, start running on a repeal of the Patriot Act right now.

idg why we're outraged in 2013. Any who, no one will care after a couple of days.DroidPhysX

Yeah in a few days when there's an earthquake or massive forest fire that will be the new thing that is Obama's fault.

Good call.

Not a big deal at allMrPraline

I really hope that image isn't actually classified.

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="MrPraline"]lolOrkHammer007

1. Do you really think that the NSA listening in on everyone's phone sex is really doing anything to stop terror attacks? Or your phone calls to grandma and grandpa? At this point, criminals under legally-acquired wire taps have more rights.

2. Innocent calls to terror-supporting nations can set up the wrong flags. If an immigrant from Iran calls his family back in the old country, does that make him a terror supporter? It sure makes him a suspect.

If you want an inside track to the Presidency in 2016, start running on a repeal of the Patriot Act right now.

Considering there are still extremist groups with the goal of killing Americans and plots for terrorist attacks within the US, yet 12 years on there hasn't been one successful attack.

inb4 correlation does not imply causation

inb4 al qaeda was created by government

inb4 9/11 was an inside job

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]idg why we're outraged in 2013. Any who, no one will care after a couple of days.Squeets

Yeah in a few days when there's an earthquake or massive forest fire that will be the new thing that is Obama's fault.

Good call.

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] I fail to see why you found my comment so funny. Do you really think your government cares if you called your friend a dork?Or that your neighbours like weird sex? I just cannot understand why people are making such a big deal about this.Squeets

1. Do you really think that the NSA listening in on everyone's phone sex is really doing anything to stop terror attacks? Or your phone calls to grandma and grandpa? At this point, criminals under legally-acquired wire taps have more rights.

2. Innocent calls to terror-supporting nations can set up the wrong flags. If an immigrant from Iran calls his family back in the old country, does that make him a terror supporter? It sure makes him a suspect.

If you want an inside track to the Presidency in 2016, start running on a repeal of the Patriot Act right now.

Considering there are still extremist groups with the goal of killing Americans and plots for terrorist attacks within the US, yet 12 years on there hasn't been one successful attack.

inb4 correlation does not imply causation

inb4 al qaeda was created by government

inb4 9/11 was an inside job

[QUOTE="Squeets"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]idg why we're outraged in 2013. Any who, no one will care after a couple of days.El_Zo1212o

Yeah in a few days when there's an earthquake or massive forest fire that will be the new thing that is Obama's fault.

Good call.

I have to make myself look appealing so that in 20 years I can be chief of the thought police.

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] I fail to see why you found my comment so funny. Do you really think your government cares if you called your friend a dork?Or that your neighbours like weird sex? I just cannot understand why people are making such a big deal about this.Squeets

1. Do you really think that the NSA listening in on everyone's phone sex is really doing anything to stop terror attacks? Or your phone calls to grandma and grandpa? At this point, criminals under legally-acquired wire taps have more rights.

2. Innocent calls to terror-supporting nations can set up the wrong flags. If an immigrant from Iran calls his family back in the old country, does that make him a terror supporter? It sure makes him a suspect.

If you want an inside track to the Presidency in 2016, start running on a repeal of the Patriot Act right now.

Considering there are still extremist groups with the goal of killing Americans and plots for terrorist attacks within the US, yet 12 years on there hasn't been one successful attack.

inb4 correlation does not imply causation

inb4 al qaeda was created by government

inb4 9/11 was an inside job

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] I fail to see why you found my comment so funny. Do you really think your government cares if you called your friend a dork?Or that your neighbours like weird sex? I just cannot understand why people are making such a big deal about this.Squeets

1. Do you really think that the NSA listening in on everyone's phone sex is really doing anything to stop terror attacks? Or your phone calls to grandma and grandpa? At this point, criminals under legally-acquired wire taps have more rights.

2. Innocent calls to terror-supporting nations can set up the wrong flags. If an immigrant from Iran calls his family back in the old country, does that make him a terror supporter? It sure makes him a suspect.

If you want an inside track to the Presidency in 2016, start running on a repeal of the Patriot Act right now.

Considering there are still extremist groups with the goal of killing Americans and plots for terrorist attacks within the US, yet 12 years on there hasn't been one successful attack.

inb4 correlation does not imply causation

inb4 al qaeda was created by government

inb4 9/11 was an inside job

I see no reason why anyone who considers himself/herself a "libertarian" could support that cult of cavemen that is the Republican party. I also see no reason why anyone who considers himself/herself a progressive could support a party whose views on the economy, foreign affairs, colonialism, police state and whatnot are pretty much exactly like the Republican party's, just without all the blatant racism and homophobia.

LordQuorthon

[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

I see no reason why anyone who considers himself/herself a "libertarian" could support that cult of cavemen that is the Republican party. I also see no reason why anyone who considers himself/herself a progressive could support a party whose views on the economy, foreign affairs, colonialism, police state and whatnot are pretty much exactly like the Republican party's, just without all the blatant racism and homophobia.

vfibsux

Let me guess.....not wanting illegal immigration=racism and not agreeing with homosexuality=homophobia. But of course you are the party of open minds.....as long as everyone sees things your way.vfibsux

And illiterate. Rapublicans are also illiterate, as proven by this post.