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#1 AlexKidd5000
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This is absolutely ridiculous. This kind of wealth inequality is simply not sustainable. Why should so few people have more money than half the world? and in the mean time, billions are suffering, and struggling every day. Wealth redistribution needs to happen. This kind of wealth inequality is what is causing this global revolt we are seeing.

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#2  Edited By themajormayor
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They don't have more than half of the world. They have more than the POOREST half of the world.

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This is somehow a bad thing?

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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/16/world/eight-richest-wealth-oxfam.html?_r=0

Bottom Half.

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We should fix this by giving those rich people tax cuts.

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1. What does it matter as long as it's not your country?

2. Why do people who live in huts deserve as much as everyone else?

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Globalism for you.

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#8  Edited By AlexKidd5000
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@scoots9 said:

This is somehow a bad thing?

Sorry. Just because someone does not live in quote unquote "absolute poverty" does not mean they are living on god damn easy street. You have to consider the rising cost of everything, while wages stay ridiculously low. In order to survive in this shitty economy that the rich created, you'd need to raise the minimum wage to 20+ dollars an hours. What is the min wage right now? $7.25/h. Healthcare costs have gotten out of control. The total cost of living is much higher, while people are making less money. Even if this garbage economy was widely considered normal, it cannot be sustained, because if more and more people lose there jobs, and wages continue to fall, then the bubble bursts, and the economy collapses completely, because nobody can afford to buy anything. 3rd world countries are living in absolute poverty right now, and that will be us as well eventually. Also, that graph, I wouldn't be surprised if most of that progress was because of FDR's new deal, and it's possible influences around the world, and now we are quickly coming down from that high.

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#9  Edited By Jag85
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@scoots9 said:

This is somehow a bad thing?

Much of that is due to the rapid development of Asian economies in recent decades. China and India have a combined population of over 2.6 billion people, so it makes sense that more than a billion people have been lifted out of absolute poverty as a result. But that's only for absolute poverty, not overall poverty. Most of that blue population are still living in poverty.

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@Serraph105 said:

We should fix this by giving those rich people tax cuts.

China's communistic so they have no poverty there. No tax cuts needed as their unique brand of socialism has solved everything. You may see the bulk of their population living in poverty and lacking basic human rights, but that's an illusion that free market pigs have created.

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Some of the topics to be discussed at Davos lead me to believe that global leadership may actually be considering taking this seriously.

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Welcome to the world of unbridled capitalism.

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You know, it's not like billionaires went around and stole that money to attain their riches. They earned it. And it plenty cases, they have created things that have actually changed the landscape of society. Not to mention all of the people under their employ.

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@Jaysonguy said:

1. What does it matter as long as it's not your country?

2. Why do people who live in huts deserve as much as everyone else?

1. It's called empathy. I don't believe in being a bleeding heart, but at the same time I feel that it's important to recognize when you have enough, when you have way too much, and when you have so much you can afford to give some away and it won't impact you at all.

2. Why does it not matter? Are you implying people in huts do not matter? They deserve something, I would say. Surely the starving African kids that watch trucks full of corn drive by every single day but don't see a single kernel because their corrupt king struck a bargain with a foreign entity deserve something simply for playing host to such agriculture, yes?

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You know, it's not like billionaires went around and stole that money to attain their riches. They earned it. And it plenty cases, they have created things that have actually changed the landscape of society. Not to mention all of the people under their employ.

Ah yes, another "corporations are people" believer. Billionaires exploit. It's true that they do create jobs, but generally at the expense of many many many other jobs. For every titanic online retailer that opens up that employs 500 people, 1000 mom and pop businesses that employ 10,0000 people shut down.

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You people, you are ignorant in your blind devotion to capitalism. Capitalism is freaking awesome in context and when practiced tempered with other policies. But as it is now, it's pretty terrible.

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This seems just so completely and utterly wrong. Greed and selfishness taken to obscene levels.

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Oh look, it's a Bernie supporter. I remember those! They were like Furby or Beanie Baby's! How cute. Nice to remember old fads!

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#17  Edited By AlexKidd5000
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@mrbojangles25 said:
@Jaysonguy said:

1. What does it matter as long as it's not your country?

2. Why do people who live in huts deserve as much as everyone else?

1. It's called empathy. I don't believe in being a bleeding heart, but at the same time I feel that it's important to recognize when you have enough, when you have way too much, and when you have so much you can afford to give some away and it won't impact you at all.

2. Why does it not matter? Are you implying people in huts do not matter? They deserve something, I would say. Surely the starving African kids that watch trucks full of corn drive by every single day but don't see a single kernel because their corrupt king struck a bargain with a foreign entity deserve something simply for playing host to such agriculture, yes?

@Shottayouth13- said:

You know, it's not like billionaires went around and stole that money to attain their riches. They earned it. And it plenty cases, they have created things that have actually changed the landscape of society. Not to mention all of the people under their employ.

Ah yes, another "corporations are people" believer. Billionaires exploit. It's true that they do create jobs, but generally at the expense of many many many other jobs. For every titanic online retailer that opens up that employs 500 people, 1000 mom and pop businesses that employ 10,0000 people shut down.

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You people, you are ignorant in your blind devotion to capitalism. Capitalism is freaking awesome in context and when practiced tempered with other policies. But as it is now, it's pretty terrible.

If he even bothered to watch the video, most people who are super mega ultra rich because of pure exploitation, and greasing the wheels of the system itself. As well as kids inheriting there parents fortune. Even the koch brothers got there billions from there father, who made deals with world leaders to get his riches. NO AMOUNT OF HARD WORK WILL MAKE YOU A MULTI-MEGA-BILLIONAIRE ON THAT LEVEL. At best you'll attain a few billion out of blind luck (like Notch did), NOT hundreds of billions of dollars, not unless you cheat, and rig the system in your favor.

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@AlexKidd5000 said:
@mrbojangles25 said:
@Jaysonguy said:

1. What does it matter as long as it's not your country?

2. Why do people who live in huts deserve as much as everyone else?

1. It's called empathy. I don't believe in being a bleeding heart, but at the same time I feel that it's important to recognize when you have enough, when you have way too much, and when you have so much you can afford to give some away and it won't impact you at all.

2. Why does it not matter? Are you implying people in huts do not matter? They deserve something, I would say. Surely the starving African kids that watch trucks full of corn drive by every single day but don't see a single kernel because their corrupt king struck a bargain with a foreign entity deserve something simply for playing host to such agriculture, yes?

@Shottayouth13- said:

You know, it's not like billionaires went around and stole that money to attain their riches. They earned it. And it plenty cases, they have created things that have actually changed the landscape of society. Not to mention all of the people under their employ.

Ah yes, another "corporations are people" believer. Billionaires exploit. It's true that they do create jobs, but generally at the expense of many many many other jobs. For every titanic online retailer that opens up that employs 500 people, 1000 mom and pop businesses that employ 10,0000 people shut down.

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You people, you are ignorant in your blind devotion to capitalism. Capitalism is freaking awesome in context and when practiced tempered with other policies. But as it is now, it's pretty terrible.

If he even bothered to watch the video, most people who are super mega ultra rich because of pure exploitation, and greasing the wheels of the system itself. As well as kids inheriting there parents fortune. Even the koch brothers got there billions from there father, who made deals with world leaders to get his riches. NO AMOUNT OF HARD WORK WILL MAKE YOU A MULTI-MEGA-BILLIONAIRE ON THAT LEVEL. At best you'll attain a few billion out of blind luck (like Notch did), NOT hundreds of billions of dollars, not unless you cheat, and rig the system in your favor.

Guess what? People aren't all equal. Some people will earn things, and some others will not.

Welcome to real life. Instead of bitching and whining it isn't fair, deal with and move on. That's called being an adult.

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I wonder how many of the people who are going "omg too much, capitalism needs to stop" have a degree in economics.

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@n64dd: So you are saying we should ignore the political and corporate corruption that you your self pointed out all the time from Clinton during this election process? The fact of the matter is corporate interests are turning the country into a corporate oligarchy where our government policy is being swayed by corporations over the people.. So what your saying is we should all be a good little worker and shut up while we watch our worker rights being slowly eroded while our tax dollars gets funneled to these corporations?.. What person in their right mind would be ok with this or condone it? I really wish this false dichotomy would end.. You can still push forward concern for the current trend in trying to curve it while not espousing the stereotypical socialist strawman.

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@AlexKidd5000 said:

Wealth redistribution needs to happen.

..and how do we go about doing that?

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@n64dd: So you are saying we should ignore the political and corporate corruption that you your self pointed out all the time from Clinton during this election process? The fact of the matter is corporate interests are turning the country into a corporate oligarchy where our government policy is being swayed by corporations over the people.. So what your saying is we should all be a good little worker and shut up while we watch our worker rights being slowly eroded while our tax dollars gets funneled to these corporations?.. What person in their right mind would be ok with this or condone it? I really wish this false dichotomy would end.. You can still push forward concern for the current trend in trying to curve it while not espousing the stereotypical socialist strawman.

You twisted my words beautifully. 10 points for Gryffindor.

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#24  Edited By comp_atkins
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with staggering wealth comes staggering responsibility.

you amass $100B in your lifetime? good for you. but you damn sure better do something useful for society in the end. otherwise what was the point?

big deal, you created a company that will be gone in 20 or 30 years. if you help to cure cancer, that is forever.

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@comp_atkins said:

with staggering wealth comes staggering responsibility.

you amass $100B in your lifetime? good for you. but you damn sure better do something useful for society in the end. otherwise what was the point?

Most of them will just hoard it, and pass it onto there next of kin, who will also hoard it, and do the same corrupt things as there parents. So that money should be recirculated back into the economy where it will actually be put to good use.

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@AlexKidd5000 said:
@comp_atkins said:

with staggering wealth comes staggering responsibility.

you amass $100B in your lifetime? good for you. but you damn sure better do something useful for society in the end. otherwise what was the point?

Most of them will just hoard it, and pass it onto there next of kin, who will also hoard it, and do the same corrupt things as there parents. So that money should be recirculated back into the economy where it will actually be put to good use.

LOL you're so fake it's unbelievable. You don't give a shit about starving people or 3rd world problems or you'd be over there trying to help instead of complaining about it on a video game forum.

Guess what? All that money these people have, is theirs, they earned it if you like it or not. All you're doing is throwing a tantrum because they have what you want. Your idea of fair is you doing jack shit while people change the world and get paid for it while you take a piece of their pie.

Get real.

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#27  Edited By KHAndAnime
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Why is it that they're mostly all democrats? I thought Republicans were the ones who hoarded the world's wealth and refused to give it away.

I was taught all rich people were evil, greedy Republicans who don't like to pay taxes. My world view is collapsing!!

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@AlexKidd5000 said:

Most of them will just hoard it, and pass it onto there next of kin, who will also hoard it, and do the same corrupt things as there parents. So that money should be recirculated back into the economy where it will actually be put to good use.

LOL you're so fake it's unbelievable. You don't give a shit about starving people or 3rd world problems or you'd be over there trying to help instead of complaining about it on a video game forum.

Guess what? All that money these people have, is theirs, they earned it if you like it or not. All you're doing is throwing a tantrum because they have what you want. Your idea of fair is you doing jack shit while people change the world and get paid for it while you take a piece of their pie.

Get real.

The irony is that most of the people with this wealth are for wealth redistribution and pledged to give away their wealth.

Leftists never cease approaching mentally-handicapped levels of irony.

When will they realize the richest, most powerful people on this planet are more likely to share their views? I also wonder when they'll get curious about why wealth redistribution hasn't been fully enacted when the people who are most capable of bringing it about like wealth redistribution. Maybe...just MAYBE...people like wealth redistribution but not when it involves redistribution of their own wealth.

This is starting to remind me of Animal Farm. Some people here should've studied that book a little more in high school. I'll sum it up for those who didn't read it...

"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others"

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Sorry. Just because someone does not live in quote unquote "absolute poverty" does not mean they are living on god damn easy street. You have to consider the rising cost of everything, while wages stay ridiculously low. In order to survive in this shitty economy that the rich created, you'd need to raise the minimum wage to 20+ dollars an hours. What is the min wage right now? $7.25/h. Healthcare costs have gotten out of control. The total cost of living is much higher, while people are making less money. Even if this garbage economy was widely considered normal, it cannot be sustained, because if more and more people lose there jobs, and wages continue to fall, then the bubble bursts, and the economy collapses completely, because nobody can afford to buy anything. 3rd world countries are living in absolute poverty right now, and that will be us as well eventually. Also, that graph, I wouldn't be surprised if most of that progress was because of FDR's new deal, and it's possible influences around the world, and now we are quickly coming down from that high.

Um, it might not be easy street, but this is still PROGRESS, isn't it?

I mean, people talk about the dying of the middle class and the shrinking of the divide between "rich and poor", but isn't it still the case that it's an increasingly smaller percentage of the "poor" who are "flat-out-starving poor"? Isn't that kind of wealth distribution right there? That the middle class is becoming "poor, but not THAT poor" in order to give an increasingly large segment of humanity the ability to transition from "so poor we're starving" poor to "still poor, but at least we're not starving" poor"?

Granted, one could argue that it would be BETTER if it were the rich fat cats taking the hit instead of the middle class. But isn't this still a lot better than things used to be, where there was no middle class and almost everyone was actually DIRT POOR except for a tiny percentage of fat cats? That's not to diminish the desire for more progress, but can we at least admit that what we're seeing is actually progression rather than regression?

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While it seems like some people have good intentions here to improve the lives of themselves and others via wealth redistribution. Communism already tried to do just that, by eliminating privately owned "excessive wealth".

Safe to say that few would argue communism, and in particular socialist regimes; hasn't been a massive faliure. Socialist regimes just created a host of other problems. Which include widespread famines that killed millions. And didn't exactly get rid of rich and poor in the process. Just made government officials the holder of wealth. Who of course lived better off than the people.

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@AlexKidd5000 said:
@scoots9 said:

Sorry. Just because someone does not live in quote unquote "absolute poverty" does not mean they are living on god damn easy street. You have to consider the rising cost of everything, while wages stay ridiculously low. In order to survive in this shitty economy that the rich created, you'd need to raise the minimum wage to 20+ dollars an hours. What is the min wage right now? $7.25/h. Healthcare costs have gotten out of control. The total cost of living is much higher, while people are making less money. Even if this garbage economy was widely considered normal, it cannot be sustained, because if more and more people lose there jobs, and wages continue to fall, then the bubble bursts, and the economy collapses completely, because nobody can afford to buy anything. 3rd world countries are living in absolute poverty right now, and that will be us as well eventually. Also, that graph, I wouldn't be surprised if most of that progress was because of FDR's new deal, and it's possible influences around the world, and now we are quickly coming down from that high.

Where do you get '20+ dollars an hour' from? Are you talking about a single earner in a four person household? If you're talking about a single person with no dependents, than you can easily make it on 12 dollars an hour, depending on where you live. I made it for three years on 10 dollars an hour.

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@n64dd said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:
@comp_atkins said:

with staggering wealth comes staggering responsibility.

you amass $100B in your lifetime? good for you. but you damn sure better do something useful for society in the end. otherwise what was the point?

Most of them will just hoard it, and pass it onto there next of kin, who will also hoard it, and do the same corrupt things as there parents. So that money should be recirculated back into the economy where it will actually be put to good use.

LOL you're so fake it's unbelievable. You don't give a shit about starving people or 3rd world problems or you'd be over there trying to help instead of complaining about it on a video game forum.

Guess what? All that money these people have, is theirs, they earned it if you like it or not. All you're doing is throwing a tantrum because they have what you want. Your idea of fair is you doing jack shit while people change the world and get paid for it while you take a piece of their pie.

Get real.

LOL, you are so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable! Did it ever cross your mind that I don't have the RESOURCES to do such a thing? There is no way I am too poor to do anything like that! Thats just silly!

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@plageus900 said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:
@scoots9 said:

Sorry. Just because someone does not live in quote unquote "absolute poverty" does not mean they are living on god damn easy street. You have to consider the rising cost of everything, while wages stay ridiculously low. In order to survive in this shitty economy that the rich created, you'd need to raise the minimum wage to 20+ dollars an hours. What is the min wage right now? $7.25/h. Healthcare costs have gotten out of control. The total cost of living is much higher, while people are making less money. Even if this garbage economy was widely considered normal, it cannot be sustained, because if more and more people lose there jobs, and wages continue to fall, then the bubble bursts, and the economy collapses completely, because nobody can afford to buy anything. 3rd world countries are living in absolute poverty right now, and that will be us as well eventually. Also, that graph, I wouldn't be surprised if most of that progress was because of FDR's new deal, and it's possible influences around the world, and now we are quickly coming down from that high.

Where do you get '20+ dollars an hour' from? Are you talking about a single earner in a four person household? If you're talking about a single person with no dependents, than you can easily make it on 12 dollars an hour, depending on where you live. I made it for three years on 10 dollars an hour.

I make 10 an hour, but I pay 28% in taxes because my state sucks.

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#34  Edited By N64DD
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@AlexKidd5000 said:
@plageus900 said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:
@scoots9 said:

Sorry. Just because someone does not live in quote unquote "absolute poverty" does not mean they are living on god damn easy street. You have to consider the rising cost of everything, while wages stay ridiculously low. In order to survive in this shitty economy that the rich created, you'd need to raise the minimum wage to 20+ dollars an hours. What is the min wage right now? $7.25/h. Healthcare costs have gotten out of control. The total cost of living is much higher, while people are making less money. Even if this garbage economy was widely considered normal, it cannot be sustained, because if more and more people lose there jobs, and wages continue to fall, then the bubble bursts, and the economy collapses completely, because nobody can afford to buy anything. 3rd world countries are living in absolute poverty right now, and that will be us as well eventually. Also, that graph, I wouldn't be surprised if most of that progress was because of FDR's new deal, and it's possible influences around the world, and now we are quickly coming down from that high.

Where do you get '20+ dollars an hour' from? Are you talking about a single earner in a four person household? If you're talking about a single person with no dependents, than you can easily make it on 12 dollars an hour, depending on where you live. I made it for three years on 10 dollars an hour.

I make 10 an hour, but I pay 28% in taxes because my state sucks.

You're complaining about taxes in a thread about redistributing the wealth that you made, and you're calling me stupid?

Get rekt kid.

Also, your first replay completely skirted around the issue you got destroyed and call out.

You're fake.

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@n64dd said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:
@plageus900 said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:
@scoots9 said:

Sorry. Just because someone does not live in quote unquote "absolute poverty" does not mean they are living on god damn easy street. You have to consider the rising cost of everything, while wages stay ridiculously low. In order to survive in this shitty economy that the rich created, you'd need to raise the minimum wage to 20+ dollars an hours. What is the min wage right now? $7.25/h. Healthcare costs have gotten out of control. The total cost of living is much higher, while people are making less money. Even if this garbage economy was widely considered normal, it cannot be sustained, because if more and more people lose there jobs, and wages continue to fall, then the bubble bursts, and the economy collapses completely, because nobody can afford to buy anything. 3rd world countries are living in absolute poverty right now, and that will be us as well eventually. Also, that graph, I wouldn't be surprised if most of that progress was because of FDR's new deal, and it's possible influences around the world, and now we are quickly coming down from that high.

Where do you get '20+ dollars an hour' from? Are you talking about a single earner in a four person household? If you're talking about a single person with no dependents, than you can easily make it on 12 dollars an hour, depending on where you live. I made it for three years on 10 dollars an hour.

I make 10 an hour, but I pay 28% in taxes because my state sucks.

You're complaining about taxes in a thread about redistributing the wealth that you made, and you're calling me stupid?

Get rekt kid.

Also, your first replay completely skirted around the issue you got destroyed and call out.

You're fake.

Yeah, poor people should pay MORE in taxes, because they can afford it...

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@AlexKidd5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:
@plageus900 said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:

Sorry. Just because someone does not live in quote unquote "absolute poverty" does not mean they are living on god damn easy street. You have to consider the rising cost of everything, while wages stay ridiculously low. In order to survive in this shitty economy that the rich created, you'd need to raise the minimum wage to 20+ dollars an hours. What is the min wage right now? $7.25/h. Healthcare costs have gotten out of control. The total cost of living is much higher, while people are making less money. Even if this garbage economy was widely considered normal, it cannot be sustained, because if more and more people lose there jobs, and wages continue to fall, then the bubble bursts, and the economy collapses completely, because nobody can afford to buy anything. 3rd world countries are living in absolute poverty right now, and that will be us as well eventually. Also, that graph, I wouldn't be surprised if most of that progress was because of FDR's new deal, and it's possible influences around the world, and now we are quickly coming down from that high.

Where do you get '20+ dollars an hour' from? Are you talking about a single earner in a four person household? If you're talking about a single person with no dependents, than you can easily make it on 12 dollars an hour, depending on where you live. I made it for three years on 10 dollars an hour.

I make 10 an hour, but I pay 28% in taxes because my state sucks.

You're complaining about taxes in a thread about redistributing the wealth that you made, and you're calling me stupid?

Get rekt kid.

Also, your first replay completely skirted around the issue you got destroyed and call out.

You're fake.

Yeah, poor people should pay MORE in taxes, because they can afford it...

You live in California? You're still fake btw.

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@n64dd said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:
@plageus900 said:

Where do you get '20+ dollars an hour' from? Are you talking about a single earner in a four person household? If you're talking about a single person with no dependents, than you can easily make it on 12 dollars an hour, depending on where you live. I made it for three years on 10 dollars an hour.

I make 10 an hour, but I pay 28% in taxes because my state sucks.

You're complaining about taxes in a thread about redistributing the wealth that you made, and you're calling me stupid?

Get rekt kid.

Also, your first replay completely skirted around the issue you got destroyed and call out.

You're fake.

Yeah, poor people should pay MORE in taxes, because they can afford it...

You live in California? You're still fake btw.

Pennsylvania. Please, you're the fakest fake boy on here.

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#38 N64DD
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@AlexKidd5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:

I make 10 an hour, but I pay 28% in taxes because my state sucks.

You're complaining about taxes in a thread about redistributing the wealth that you made, and you're calling me stupid?

Get rekt kid.

Also, your first replay completely skirted around the issue you got destroyed and call out.

You're fake.

Yeah, poor people should pay MORE in taxes, because they can afford it...

You live in California? You're still fake btw.

Pennsylvania. Please, you're the fakest fake boy on here.

Sounds like you're living in the wrong state. Were you one of the ones who were going to move to Canada is Trump one?

I'm also not the one putting out global conspiracy's and die hard beliefs and when you're put under a small microscope your whole system falls apart. You got destroyed in this thread.

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#39 AlexKidd5000
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@n64dd said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:
@n64dd said:

You're complaining about taxes in a thread about redistributing the wealth that you made, and you're calling me stupid?

Get rekt kid.

Also, your first replay completely skirted around the issue you got destroyed and call out.

You're fake.

Yeah, poor people should pay MORE in taxes, because they can afford it...

You live in California? You're still fake btw.

Pennsylvania. Please, you're the fakest fake boy on here.

Sounds like you're living in the wrong state. Were you one of the ones who were going to move to Canada is Trump one?

I'm also not the one putting out global conspiracy's and die hard beliefs and when you're put under a small microscope your whole system falls apart. You got destroyed in this thread.

Whatever you say :)

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#40 N64DD
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@AlexKidd5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:
@n64dd said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:

Yeah, poor people should pay MORE in taxes, because they can afford it...

You live in California? You're still fake btw.

Pennsylvania. Please, you're the fakest fake boy on here.

Sounds like you're living in the wrong state. Were you one of the ones who were going to move to Canada is Trump one?

I'm also not the one putting out global conspiracy's and die hard beliefs and when you're put under a small microscope your whole system falls apart. You got destroyed in this thread.

Whatever you say :)

There are people that can't even eat right now. You should take your money and give it to them, or take some of them into your house/apartment/condo. Spread the wealth1

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LOL, you are so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable! Did it ever cross your mind that I don't have the RESOURCES to do such a thing? There is no way I am too poor to do anything like that! Thats just silly!

Have you not seen those commercials where you can donate a few bucks to feed/educate a child for X amount of time ? Pretty sure you have. And you could join the Peace Corps. Look into a variety of charities that will pay for your travel, lodging, and basic needs. Or utilize crowd funding. I've come across people that wouldn't qualify for middle class status, who use crowd funding to address international issues. And if that's too much work for you, then volunteering at a local soup kitchen can go a long way; to helping someone less fortunate than you.

My church for instance, travels to Columbia to spread the gospel and do charity work for an indigenous group. On very tight budgets. People who have went on that trip, rent rooms/share an apartment with others to make ends meet. The world is not going to be a better place if you sit around and make excuses, of why you can't help someone less fortunate than you. Every little bit counts.

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@AlexKidd5000:

"that money should be recirculated back into the economy where it will actually be put to good use."

Have you ever heard of banks? That's what banks do. These evil rich folks don't "hoard" their money in a sack under the bed. They invest it, they put it in banks. That money is then leant out to people or otherwise invested.

I second this. People don't get rich by hiding all their money under the mattress, and never touching it.

You have to be able to take $100 dollars, and turn it into $300 dollars. And so on. Much of the wealth held by the rich isn't liquid assets (cash or someone that will convert into cash fast). Donald Trump for example, doesn't have $4 billion in cash. He has numerous properties and other possessions, that make up a huge chunk of his net worth.

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@AlexKidd5000: I'm not trying to call you a liar, but how are you getting taxed at 28 percent? Pennsylvania has a 3.07 percent income tax and even at full time, your federal income tax bracket is super low. My wife and I make a combined 150k a year and don't pay 28 percent.

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@plageus900 said:

@AlexKidd5000: I'm not trying to call you a liar, but how are you getting taxed at 28 percent? Pennsylvania has a 3.07 percent income tax and even at full time, your federal income tax bracket is super low. My wife and I make a combined 150k a year and don't pay 28 percent.

I forgot about health insurance which my workplace gives, so basically 21.4% taxes, plus $43 for (not very good) health insurance. still pretty bad.

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The world sustained massively worse wealth inequality for around ten to fifteen thousand years.

The current wealth distribution is the highest at any point in human history.

If the current wealth inequality is unsustainable, it would be because it is too low. A wealth redistribution will not solve that.

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@jak42 said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:

LOL, you are so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable! Did it ever cross your mind that I don't have the RESOURCES to do such a thing? There is no way I am too poor to do anything like that! Thats just silly!

Have you not seen those commercials where you can donate a few bucks to feed/educate a child for X amount of time ? Pretty sure you have. And you could join the Peace Corps. Look into a variety of charities that will pay for your travel, lodging, and basic needs. Or utilize crowd funding. I've come across people that wouldn't qualify for middle class status, who use crowd funding to address international issues. And if that's too much work for you, then volunteering at a local soup kitchen can go a long way; to helping someone less fortunate than you.

My church for instance, travels to Columbia to spread the gospel and do charity work for an indigenous group. On very tight budgets. People who have went on that trip, rent rooms/share an apartment with others to make ends meet. The world is not going to be a better place if you sit around and make excuses, of why you can't help someone less fortunate than you. Every little bit counts.

@thegerg said:

@AlexKidd5000:

"that money should be recirculated back into the economy where it will actually be put to good use."

Have you ever heard of banks? That's what banks do. These evil rich folks don't "hoard" their money in a sack under the bed. They invest it, they put it in banks. That money is then leant out to people or otherwise invested.

I second this. People don't get rich by hiding all their money under the mattress, and never touching it.

You have to be able to take $100 dollars, and turn it into $300 dollars. And so on. Much of the wealth held by the rich isn't liquid assets (cash or someone that will convert into cash fast). Donald Trump for example, doesn't have $4 billion in cash. He has numerous properties and other possessions, that make up a huge chunk of his net worth.

I have donated to charities. I don't always know if a charity I am donating is all that trustworthy, since I've heard of quite a few of them being corrupt. The rest of what you mentioned sound pretty cool, and I will look into other options in the future.

When people like Kyle talk about the rich, they are talking specifically about the super rich elite class who run the government, it's them who use bribery, and cheating to attain more and more wealth. Corporate welfare, and whatnot. They do not get there wealth through hard work, they get it through corruption.

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@plageus900 said:

@AlexKidd5000: I'm not trying to call you a liar, but how are you getting taxed at 28 percent? Pennsylvania has a 3.07 percent income tax and even at full time, your federal income tax bracket is super low. My wife and I make a combined 150k a year and don't pay 28 percent.

Yeah, that seems extremely high. I have staff in Michigan that make 15$/hour and pay no where near that in taxes. Philadelphia has a very high city tax - more than state tax - but that's just philly and I believe you can deduct that against any federal.

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@sonicare said:
@plageus900 said:

@AlexKidd5000: I'm not trying to call you a liar, but how are you getting taxed at 28 percent? Pennsylvania has a 3.07 percent income tax and even at full time, your federal income tax bracket is super low. My wife and I make a combined 150k a year and don't pay 28 percent.

Yeah, that seems extremely high. I have staff in Michigan that make 15$/hour and pay no where near that in taxes. Philadelphia has a very high city tax - more than state tax - but that's just philly and I believe you can deduct that against any federal.

I live near Harrisburg, my city wanted to raise taxes 40%, but were talked down to 30%.

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@AlexKidd5000 said:
@jak42 said:
@AlexKidd5000 said:

LOL, you are so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable! Did it ever cross your mind that I don't have the RESOURCES to do such a thing? There is no way I am too poor to do anything like that! Thats just silly!

Have you not seen those commercials where you can donate a few bucks to feed/educate a child for X amount of time ? Pretty sure you have. And you could join the Peace Corps. Look into a variety of charities that will pay for your travel, lodging, and basic needs. Or utilize crowd funding. I've come across people that wouldn't qualify for middle class status, who use crowd funding to address international issues. And if that's too much work for you, then volunteering at a local soup kitchen can go a long way; to helping someone less fortunate than you.

My church for instance, travels to Columbia to spread the gospel and do charity work for an indigenous group. On very tight budgets. People who have went on that trip, rent rooms/share an apartment with others to make ends meet. The world is not going to be a better place if you sit around and make excuses, of why you can't help someone less fortunate than you. Every little bit counts.

@thegerg said:

@AlexKidd5000:

"that money should be recirculated back into the economy where it will actually be put to good use."

Have you ever heard of banks? That's what banks do. These evil rich folks don't "hoard" their money in a sack under the bed. They invest it, they put it in banks. That money is then leant out to people or otherwise invested.

I second this. People don't get rich by hiding all their money under the mattress, and never touching it.

You have to be able to take $100 dollars, and turn it into $300 dollars. And so on. Much of the wealth held by the rich isn't liquid assets (cash or someone that will convert into cash fast). Donald Trump for example, doesn't have $4 billion in cash. He has numerous properties and other possessions, that make up a huge chunk of his net worth.

I have donated to charities. I don't always know if a charity I am donating is all that trustworthy, since I've heard of quite a few of them being corrupt. The rest of what you mentioned sound pretty cool, and I will look into other options in the future.

When people like Kyle talk about the rich, they are talking specifically about the super rich elite class who run the government, it's them who use bribery, and cheating to attain more and more wealth. Corporate welfare, and whatnot. They do not get there wealth through hard work, they get it through corruption.

If it's so easy to make billions off controlling the government, why doesn't every one do it?

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The world is a steaming pile of garbage. Tell me something new.