For all you people who believe in god?

some of those errors mentioned in the site are taken from from the debunked websites....also alot of the errors in in ur website are include half surahs taken from quran :| like my friend Hayat mentioned

mingo123

And your facts about Christianity were wrong....nonetheless, there are lots of sites posting errors found in the Quaran so I wouldn't call it scientifically accurate. Man only knows what man understands in regard to science. God didn't concern Himself with science when spreading His word.;)

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]anyone have anymore scientific errors in Quran ;)LJS9502_basic

They exist....

show me, the one you gave me are already proven false

That wasn't mine......I did read this for one

LJ, as much as I respect you, but man, this time you posted a biased link.

For Example:

Your link says:Qur'an 2:261 tells us that every ear of corn has 100 grains. This has not been proven scientifically and is more than obviously false. It brings into question the scientific accuracy of the Qur'an and whether the Qur'an is really addressing scientific issues.

Translation of this verse is:

[Pickthal 2:261]The likeness of those who spend their wealth in Allah's way is as the likeness of a grain which groweth seven ears, in every ear a hundred grains. Allah giveth increase manifold to whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.

See the difference. They donot put the verse, but only the reference no., for it is obvious that not many will actually go back to the Quran to check the verse.

Was the first one that hit.....there were more. Anyway, I don't like arguing against someone's religion. On the other hand, I don't like him arguing against mine either. Agree to disagree?

you tried to prove Quran had errors which you failed.....theres errors in bible that are real errors which cannot be proven false

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]anyone have anymore scientific errors in Quran ;)LJS9502_basic

They exist....

show me, the one you gave me are already proven false

That wasn't mine......I did read this for one

LJ, as much as I respect you, but man, this time you posted a biased link.

For Example:

Your link says:Qur'an 2:261 tells us that every ear of corn has 100 grains. This has not been proven scientifically and is more than obviously false. It brings into question the scientific accuracy of the Qur'an and whether the Qur'an is really addressing scientific issues.

Translation of this verse is:

[Pickthal 2:261]The likeness of those who spend their wealth in Allah's way is as the likeness of a grain which groweth seven ears, in every ear a hundred grains. Allah giveth increase manifold to whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.

See the difference. They donot put the verse, but only the reference no., for it is obvious that not many will actually go back to the Quran to check the verse.

Was the first one that hit.....there were more. Anyway, I don't like arguing against someone's religion. On the other hand, I don't like him arguing against mine either. Agree to disagree?

Ok, another one was regarding ants talking. Go to wikipedia, and search for the article on ants. Under the communication section, it is mentioned that certain ants do produce sounds to communicate.

The genetic errors highlighted are the same as those presented by William Campbell, and have been refuted, by Dr.Zakir Naik.

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]anyone have anymore scientific errors in Quran ;)LJS9502_basic

They exist....

show me, the one you gave me are already proven false

That wasn't mine......I did read this for one

LJ, as much as I respect you, but man, this time you posted a biased link.

For Example:

Your link says:Qur'an 2:261 tells us that every ear of corn has 100 grains. This has not been proven scientifically and is more than obviously false. It brings into question the scientific accuracy of the Qur'an and whether the Qur'an is really addressing scientific issues.

Translation of this verse is:

[Pickthal 2:261]The likeness of those who spend their wealth in Allah's way is as the likeness of a grain which groweth seven ears, in every ear a hundred grains. Allah giveth increase manifold to whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.

See the difference. They donot put the verse, but only the reference no., for it is obvious that not many will actually go back to the Quran to check the verse.

Was the first one that hit.....there were more. Anyway, I don't like arguing against someone's religion. On the other hand, I don't like him arguing against mine either. Agree to disagree?

Ok, another one was regarding ants talking. Go to wikipedia, and search for the article on ants. Under the communication section, it is mentioned that certain ants do produce sounds to communicate.And, almost all ants do coverse wiith each other employing various means, but successfully delivering their message.

The genetic errors highlighted are the same as those presented by William Campbell, and have been refuted, by Dr.Zakir Naik.

way is as the likeness of a grain which groweth seven ears, in every ear a hundred grains. Allah giveth increase manifold to whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.

you tried to prove Quran had errors which you failed.....theres errors in bible that are real errors which cannot be proven false

mingo123

I still believe errors exist in the Quran. As do many others so how did I fail? Because of a translation difference in one part? That page had more than one.;)

And again...remember it was yourself hung up on translation differences. Therefore, the Quran was changed.

heir wealth in Allah's way is as the likeness of a grain which groweth seven ears, in every ear a hundred grains. Allah giveth increase manifold to whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.

Ok, another one was regarding ants talking. Go to wikipedia, and search for the article on ants. Under the communication section, it is mentioned that certain ants do produce sounds to communicate.

The genetic errors highlighted are the same as those presented by William Campbell, and have been refuted, by Dr.Zakir Naik.

MFaraz_Hayat

Well....I'd need more than the word of one person to believe it was refuted.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

way is as the likeness of a grain which groweth seven ears, in every ear a hundred grains. Allah giveth increase manifold to whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.

you tried to prove Quran had errors which you failed.....theres errors in bible that are real errors which cannot be proven false

LJS9502_basic

I still believe errors exist in the Quran. As do many others so how did I fail? Because of a translation difference in one part? That page had more than one.;)

And again...remember it was yourself hung up on translation differences. Therefore, the Quran was changed.

The Quran was changed???????? Who said that?

The Quran was changed???????? Who said that?

MFaraz_Hayat

Mingo says any change in translation counts as changing the book.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

some of those errors mentioned in the site are taken from from the debunked websites....also alot of the errors in in ur website are include half surahs taken from quran :| like my friend Hayat mentioned

LJS9502_basic

Any your facts about Christianity were wrong....

http://www.irf.net/irf/dtp/dawah_tech/ques20g.htm

and dont say im giving u muslim websites so they must be wrong, read first

http://www.al-sunnah.com/mary&jesus.htm

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

The Quran was changed???????? Who said that?

LJS9502_basic

Mingo says any change in translation counts as changing the book.

i didnt say that, bible has changed, quran hasnt

Why? Squeets

many reasons im not going into now, unless you wish for me to do so.

Promising paradise and immortality for all those who follow him and threatening damnation and eternal hellfire to those who don't?Squeets

the descriptions of hell contained inside the bible are the standard Jewish metaphors for shame. hell is a place of shame, not necessarily fire and brimstone.

What type of savior threatens death, destruction, pain, suffering to those who do not follow him?Squeets

well god can't allow a sinner to enter his perfect kingdom

I am not an atheist... more of an agnostic... I believe there could be some type of creator or higher power... but I do not follow a religion... but those of you who follow Jesus? Why? Squeets

I've seen a few good cases for the resurrection, and multiple evidences for the historical reliability of the canonized Gospels

You say that we shouldn't follow evolution because there is no proof... when there is proof... the oil we burn the fossils that fill our museums? If that isn't proof enough for you... then why do you follow something you can't even see or feel?Squeets

before I answer that, I must ask who is asking you to not accept darwinian evolution.

Right after you tell me to not follow evolution... you turn around and tell me to believe in someone I have never met who died for "my" sins and to follow a several thousand year old book that says I will suffer for all of eternity unless I embrace it...?Squeets

I've never told you to do such a thing

What about other religions? Buddhist, Jews, Hindus, Muslims... they have followed their religions for thousands of years? You are telling me that they are wrong and will suffer because of it?Squeets

yes. that is EXACTLY what I am telling you.

You people who preach your religions sound more like fanatics than faithful. You tell us we will suffer unless we embrace your lord.

All I ask is why?

Squeets

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

way is as the likeness of a grain which groweth seven ears, in every ear a hundred grains. Allah giveth increase manifold to whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.

you tried to prove Quran had errors which you failed.....theres errors in bible that are real errors which cannot be proven false

LJS9502_basic

I still believe errors exist in the Quran. As do many others so how did I fail? Because of a translation difference in one part? That page had more than one.;)

And again...remember it was yourself hung up on translation differences. Therefore, the Quran was changed.

prove it :| you cant say they exist when they dont, and the ones you gave me have been proven false

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

heir wealth in Allah's way is as the likeness of a grain which groweth seven ears, in every ear a hundred grains. Allah giveth increase manifold to whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.

Ok, another one was regarding ants talking. Go to wikipedia, and search for the article on ants. Under the communication section, it is mentioned that certain ants do produce sounds to communicate.

The genetic errors highlighted are the same as those presented by William Campbell, and have been refuted, by Dr.Zakir Naik.

LJS9502_basic

Well....I'd need more than the word of one person to believe it was refuted.

damn we have proved it...what the heck do you want now lol?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

heir wealth in Allah's way is as the likeness of a grain which groweth seven ears, in every ear a hundred grains. Allah giveth increase manifold to whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.

Ok, another one was regarding ants talking. Go to wikipedia, and search for the article on ants. Under the communication section, it is mentioned that certain ants do produce sounds to communicate.

The genetic errors highlighted are the same as those presented by William Campbell, and have been refuted, by Dr.Zakir Naik.

mingo123

Well....I'd need more than the word of one person to believe it was refuted.

damn we have proved it...what the heck do you want now lol?

YOu need more than my word. Fine, it is perfectly natural for you donot know me personally. Go and purchase Films/CD's etc. of this debate which are available in the market and watch for yourself.

You can't ever prove this.123625

Does that include yours?Dracargen

[QUOTE="123625"]You can't ever prove this.foxhound_fox

Does that include yours?Dracargen

Give up on bhuddism? And i know i can never prove my religion, but at least i don't go around stating my beleifs as fact.

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

heir wealth in Allah's way is as the likeness of a grain which groweth seven ears, in every ear a hundred grains. Allah giveth increase manifold to whom He will. Allah is All-Embracing, All-Knowing.

Ok, another one was regarding ants talking. Go to wikipedia, and search for the article on ants. Under the communication section, it is mentioned that certain ants do produce sounds to communicate.

The genetic errors highlighted are the same as those presented by William Campbell, and have been refuted, by Dr.Zakir Naik.

MFaraz_Hayat

Well....I'd need more than the word of one person to believe it was refuted.

damn we have proved it...what the heck do you want now lol?

YOu need more than my word. Fine, it is perfectly natural for you donot know me personally. Go and purchase Films/CD's etc. of this debate which are available in the market and watch for yourself.

he can just go to youtube, the whole debate is on there with dr campbell getting owned

[QUOTE="mingo123"]well God gave you time to choose your path.....you dont do the homework then be prepared for punishmentSqueets

Exactly... you don't even answer me... and you say I will be punished for not believing in your god... that is what makes me a "non" believer...

No one is punishing you. God gave you free will. If you choose to deny God, how can he accept you into Heaven as a believer? That would be an act of dishonesty by God. Hell is not punishment. You're not being sent there. You're the one choosing not to accept God as real. It's simply the absence of God.

Give up on bhuddism? And i know i can never prove my religion, but at least i don't go around stating my beleifs as fact.123625

YOu need more than my word. Fine, it is perfectly natural for you donot know me personally. Go and purchase Films/CD's etc. of this debate which are available in the market and watch for yourself.

MFaraz_Hayat

No...I didn't mean you. I meant the Dr Z dude. I've seen these errors posted on numerous websites. He is the only proof offered for the opposite.

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

YOu need more than my word. Fine, it is perfectly natural for you donot know me personally. Go and purchase Films/CD's etc. of this debate which are available in the market and watch for yourself.

LJS9502_basic

No...I didn't mean you. I meant the Dr Z dude. I've seen these errors posted on numerous websites. He is the only proof offered for the opposite.

Well, in the debate he backs up his argument, using references from Professor Keith Moore's book. Plus, most of the anti-islamic websites copied this stuff from Dr. Campbell. This was because no one was able to answer all his questions properly for nearly a decade. But, I assure you, in his debate Dr.Naik did refute all the errors raised by Dr. Campbell.

I am a Hindu, and i do strongly believe in my religion. I think its better to believe in God, even though there isnt one. Because if there really is a god then everyone who doesnt believe will go to Hell.

I always hate when people mostly Christians, say that Hinduism is total wack think again, because there are many similarities between Hinduism and Christianity. For example Christians believe in the father, son and Holy Spirit. While Hindus believe in Rama,Vishnu,and Shiva.

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

YOu need more than my word. Fine, it is perfectly natural for you donot know me personally. Go and purchase Films/CD's etc. of this debate which are available in the market and watch for yourself.

LJS9502_basic

No...I didn't mean you. I meant the Dr Z dude. I've seen these errors posted on numerous websites. He is the only proof offered for the opposite.

while there are many people who answer those errors, most people use Dr Zakir as proof coz he is the most known debater and he debates on tv and doesnt hide behind internet

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

YOu need more than my word. Fine, it is perfectly natural for you donot know me personally. Go and purchase Films/CD's etc. of this debate which are available in the market and watch for yourself.

MFaraz_Hayat

No...I didn't mean you. I meant the Dr Z dude. I've seen these errors posted on numerous websites. He is the only proof offered for the opposite.

Well, in the debate he backs up his argument, using references from Professor Keith Moore's book. Plus, most of the anti-islamic websites copied this stuff from Dr. Campbell. This was because no one was able to answer all his questions properly for nearly a decade. But, I assure you, in his debate Dr.Naik did refute all the errors raised by Dr. Campbell.

Ok let's say for the sake of argument I believe you...but that still doesn't prove faith.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

YOu need more than my word. Fine, it is perfectly natural for you donot know me personally. Go and purchase Films/CD's etc. of this debate which are available in the market and watch for yourself.

MFaraz_Hayat

No...I didn't mean you. I meant the Dr Z dude. I've seen these errors posted on numerous websites. He is the only proof offered for the opposite.

Well, in the debate he backs up his argument, using references from Professor Keith Moore's book. Plus, most of the anti-islamic websites copied this stuff from Dr. Campbell. This was because no one was able to answer all his questions properly for nearly a decade. But, I assure you, in his debate Dr.Naik did refute all the errors raised by Dr. Campbell.

Ok let's say I believe you...but that still doesn't prove faith.

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

I'm catholic, do I follow everything that is said to me while I'm at church? No, do I believe in everything that is the bible or the teaching of my religon? No, but I do believe that there is something, what it is I don't know. I do know one thing though is you gotta have some kind of faith. All I have to say is this when you have one of the smartest man saying this.....

"A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which are only accessible to our reason in their most elementary forms-it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man."

Thats tell you something. That quote came from Albert Einstein.

xscrapzx

what type of Christian is he who does not follow his religion properly?

Listen that is what I brought as, and though as a human being you have your freedom of thoughts, and ideas. There for as i grow older i tend not to believe everything that I have read or learned being a catholic. I think that a lot of the writings and teachings have been so modified over the years thats its hard to take some of it seriously. But I do believe there was more to Jesus Christ and I think he was the closest one to being able to answer any questions we had or knowing why we are here.

actually it hasn't changed one bit... look up the dead sea scrolls. they found them starting in 1947.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls

they pretty much confirm the validity of the Bible. that it stayed true through all thos years.

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

I'm catholic, do I follow everything that is said to me while I'm at church? No, do I believe in everything that is the bible or the teaching of my religon? No, but I do believe that there is something, what it is I don't know. I do know one thing though is you gotta have some kind of faith. All I have to say is this when you have one of the smartest man saying this.....

"A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty, which are only accessible to our reason in their most elementary forms-it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man."

Thats tell you something. That quote came from Albert Einstein.

xscrapzx

what type of Christian is he who does not follow his religion properly?

Listen that is what I brought as, and though as a human being you have your freedom of thoughts, and ideas. There for as i grow older i tend not to believe everything that I have read or learned being a catholic. I think that a lot of the writings and teachings have been so modified over the years thats its hard to take some of it seriously. But I do believe there was more to Jesus Christ and I think he was the closest one to being able to answer any questions we had or knowing why we are here.

actually it hasn't changed one bit... look up the dead sea scrolls. they found them starting in 1947.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls

they pretty much confirm the validity of the Bible. that it stayed true through all those years.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

he can just go to youtube, the whole debate is on there with dr campbell getting owned

LJS9502_basic

That would only prove one is a better debater than the other.;)

that just proves that claims against quran are false ;) and like hayat said dr campbell is the most well known person who comes up with all those errors and almost every other anti-islam website uses his same old debunked errors

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

YOu need more than my word. Fine, it is perfectly natural for you donot know me personally. Go and purchase Films/CD's etc. of this debate which are available in the market and watch for yourself.

LJS9502_basic

No...I didn't mean you. I meant the Dr Z dude. I've seen these errors posted on numerous websites. He is the only proof offered for the opposite.

Well, in the debate he backs up his argument, using references from Professor Keith Moore's book. Plus, most of the anti-islamic websites copied this stuff from Dr. Campbell. This was because no one was able to answer all his questions properly for nearly a decade. But, I assure you, in his debate Dr.Naik did refute all the errors raised by Dr. Campbell.

Ok let's say for the sake of argument I believe you...but that still doesn't prove faith.

when everything against Quran is false, we can clearly see the true religion ;) and if you dont believe us then please watch the debates...its on youutbe

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

YOu need more than my word. Fine, it is perfectly natural for you donot know me personally. Go and purchase Films/CD's etc. of this debate which are available in the market and watch for yourself.

LJS9502_basic

No...I didn't mean you. I meant the Dr Z dude. I've seen these errors posted on numerous websites. He is the only proof offered for the opposite.

Well, in the debate he backs up his argument, using references from Professor Keith Moore's book. Plus, most of the anti-islamic websites copied this stuff from Dr. Campbell. This was because no one was able to answer all his questions properly for nearly a decade. But, I assure you, in his debate Dr.Naik did refute all the errors raised by Dr. Campbell.

Ok let's say for the sake of argument I believe you...but that still doesn't prove faith.

when everything error in Quran is false, we can clearly see the true religion ;) and if you dont believe us then please watch the debates...its on youutbe

also you havent talked about errors in bible i provided u

that just proves that claims against quran are false ;) and like hayat said dr campbell is the most well known person who comes up with all those errors and almost every other anti-islam website uses his same old debunked errors

No.....but it does prove you don't understand debate. To be a good debater one should be able to debate either side of an issue. Successfully.

that just proves that claims against quran are false ;) and like hayat said dr campbell is the most well known person who comes up with all those errors and almost every other anti-islam website uses his same old debunked errors

mingo123

No.....but it does prove you don't understand debate. To be a good debater one should be able to debate either side of an issue. Successfully.

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

YOu need more than my word. Fine, it is perfectly natural for you donot know me personally. Go and purchase Films/CD's etc. of this debate which are available in the market and watch for yourself.

LJS9502_basic

No...I didn't mean you. I meant the Dr Z dude. I've seen these errors posted on numerous websites. He is the only proof offered for the opposite.

Well, in the debate he backs up his argument, using references from Professor Keith Moore's book. Plus, most of the anti-islamic websites copied this stuff from Dr. Campbell. This was because no one was able to answer all his questions properly for nearly a decade. But, I assure you, in his debate Dr.Naik did refute all the errors raised by Dr. Campbell.

Ok let's say for the sake of argument I believe you...but that still doesn't prove faith.

You, are right. Ultimately, it is one's own opinion that whether he wants to follow a religion or not.

[Yusufali 2:256]Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.

[Yusufali 6:107]If it had been Allah's plan, they would not have taken false gods: but We made thee not one to watch over their doings, nor art thou set over them to dispose of their affairs.

when everything error in Quran is false, we can clearly see the true religion ;) and if you dont believe us then please watch the debates...its on youutbe

also you havent talked about errors in bible i provided u

mingo123

Again....a holy book is not concerned with science. That is immaterial to faith. Simply would show if correct what mankind had understood at a time and place in history.

Second...you haven't posted any errors. You stated your opinion on the faith. Opinion =/= fact.;)

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

YOu need more than my word. Fine, it is perfectly natural for you donot know me personally. Go and purchase Films/CD's etc. of this debate which are available in the market and watch for yourself.

mingo123

No...I didn't mean you. I meant the Dr Z dude. I've seen these errors posted on numerous websites. He is the only proof offered for the opposite.

Well, in the debate he backs up his argument, using references from Professor Keith Moore's book. Plus, most of the anti-islamic websites copied this stuff from Dr. Campbell. This was because no one was able to answer all his questions properly for nearly a decade. But, I assure you, in his debate Dr.Naik did refute all the errors raised by Dr. Campbell.

Ok let's say for the sake of argument I believe you...but that still doesn't prove faith.

when everything error in Quran is false, we can clearly see the true religion ;) and if you dont believe us then please watch the debates...its on youutbe

also you havent talked about errors in bible i provided u

now Im going to go out on a limb and assume you are a muslim.

why do you deny the crucifixion?

there is no point to this topic, most things in the bible contradict themselves anyways.. just get over it and move onPi-R-Sq

ok ok i dont understand debate but dr campbell was still owned, the same campbell whose false claims you use against quran

mingo123

I didn't post his stuff.....that was dracergon.:|

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

when everything error in Quran is false, we can clearly see the true religion ;) and if you dont believe us then please watch the debates...its on youutbe

also you havent talked about errors in bible i provided u

LJS9502_basic

Again....a holy book is not concerned with science. That is immaterial to faith. Simply would show if correct what mankind had understood at a time and place in history.

Second...you haven't posted any errors. You stated your opinion on the faith. Opinion =/= fact.;)

did you check the links? also if bible is not concerned with science then how come it has flase scientific stuff in it? ;)

and http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545430

there is no point to this topic, most things in the bible contradict themselves anyways.. just get over it and move onPi-R-Sq

Certain things do contradict, but Bible, does contain certain passages that have not yet been corrupted and are a word of God. And due to this, I do respect the book.

Contradictions may exist, as humans mixed their own writings with the word of God. (atleast that's what my faith tels me).

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

ok ok i dont understand debate but dr campbell was still owned, the same campbell whose false claims you use against quran

LJS9502_basic

I didn't post his stuff.....that was dracergon.:|

the link u posted had some same stuff

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

YOu need more than my word. Fine, it is perfectly natural for you donot know me personally. Go and purchase Films/CD's etc. of this debate which are available in the market and watch for yourself.

fanofazrienoch

No...I didn't mean you. I meant the Dr Z dude. I've seen these errors posted on numerous websites. He is the only proof offered for the opposite.

Well, in the debate he backs up his argument, using references from Professor Keith Moore's book. Plus, most of the anti-islamic websites copied this stuff from Dr. Campbell. This was because no one was able to answer all his questions properly for nearly a decade. But, I assure you, in his debate Dr.Naik did refute all the errors raised by Dr. Campbell.

Ok let's say for the sake of argument I believe you...but that still doesn't prove faith.

when everything error in Quran is false, we can clearly see the true religion ;) and if you dont believe us then please watch the debates...its on youutbe

also you havent talked about errors in bible i provided u

now Im going to go out on a limb and assume you are a muslim.

why do you deny the crucifixion?

http://www.irf.net/irf/dtp/dawah_tech/ques20g.htm

http://answering-christianity.com/crucified.htm

did you check the links? also if bible is not concerned with science then how come it has flase scientific stuff in it? ;)

mingo123

http://www.irf.net/irf/dtp/dawah_tech/ques20g.htm

http://answering-christianity.com/crucified.htm

mingo123

second, the earliest mentioning of the Gospel of Barnabas is in the 5th century. the oldest manuscripts are from the 10th century, and they are written in Italian and Spanish. Im not aware of any New Testament scholar who actually thinks Barnabas, companion of Paul of Tarsus actually thinks that he wrote the Gospel of Barnabas.

Third, the Crucifixion is multiply attested by pagan, Jewish and Christian historians of the time.

lastly, there are much earlier and much more reliable accounts which do include Jesus' death by Crucifixion

http://www.irf.net/irf/dtp/dawah_tech/ques20g.htm

http://answering-christianity.com/crucified.htm

mingo123

second, the earliest mentioning of the Gospel of Barnabas is in the 5th century. the oldest manuscripts are from the 10th century, and they are written in Italian and Spanish. Im not aware of any New Testament scholar actually thinks Barnabas, companion of Paul of Tarsus, wrote the Gospel of Barnabas.

Third, the Crucifixion is multiply attested by pagan, Jewish and Christian historians of the time.

lastly, there are much earlier and much more reliable accounts which do include Jesus' death by Crucifixion

Why?

Promising paradise and immortality for all those who follow him and threatening damnation and eternal hellfire to those who don't?

What type of savior threatens death, destruction, pain, suffering to those who do not follow him?

I am not an atheist... more of an agnostic... I believe there could be some type of creator or higher power... but I do not follow a religion... but those of you who follow Jesus? Why?

You say that we shouldn't follow evolution because there is no proof... when there is proof... the oil we burn the fossils that fill our museums? If that isn't proof enough for you... then why do you follow something you can't even see or feel?

Right after you tell me to not follow evolution... you turn around and tell me to believe in someone I have never met who died for "my" sins and to follow a several thousand year old book that says I will suffer for all of eternity unless I embrace it...?

What about other religions? Buddhist, Jews, Hindus, Muslims... they have followed their religions for thousands of years? You are telling me that they are wrong and will suffer because of it?

You people who preach your religions sound more like fanatics than faithful. You tell us we will suffer unless we embrace your lord.

All I ask is why?

Squeets

All I can say is either I am wrong, or your wrong. The only thing is, your going to hell if I'm right.

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YOu need more than my word. Fine, it is perfectly natural for you donot know me personally. Go and purchase Films/CD's etc. of this debate which are available in the market and watch for yourself.

mingo123

No...I didn't mean you. I meant the Dr Z dude. I've seen these errors posted on numerous websites. He is the only proof offered for the opposite.

Well, in the debate he backs up his argument, using references from Professor Keith Moore's book. Plus, most of the anti-islamic websites copied this stuff from Dr. Campbell. This was because no one was able to answer all his questions properly for nearly a decade. But, I assure you, in his debate Dr.Naik did refute all the errors raised by Dr. Campbell.

Ok let's say for the sake of argument I believe you...but that still doesn't prove faith.

when everything error in Quran is false, we can clearly see the true religion ;) and if you dont believe us then please watch the debates...its on youutbe

also you havent talked about errors in bible i provided u

now Im going to go out on a limb and assume you are a muslim.

why do you deny the crucifixion?

http://www.irf.net/irf/dtp/dawah_tech/ques20g.htm

http://answering-christianity.com/crucified.htm