Fat guys: why not lose weight?

Look food habbits are not the way to lose weight. As long as you dont gorge yourself on a regular basis and stay away from trans fats and other garbage, all you gotta do is excersize. I don't mean jogging on a treadmill or something stupid like that, but find a physical activity that you enjoy. Paintball, skiing, martial arts, etc are all great physical activities with moderate to strenuous physical exertion; I knew a guy when I was doing brazilain jujitsu that dropped a good twenty pounds after three or four months of classes. I myself lost thrity pounds in one season of high school lacrosse. I still eat all the rich, fatty, salty, unhealthy food that I want, I just excersize as well.

Tokugawa77

Nowadays people try to make you feel ashamed for even suggesting to somebody in a non-insulting way health tips. It isn't really our business but some of us don't want to see someone eat themselves to an early grave. It is funny when you think about the fact that you will be shamed for giving heath advise to the obese but there is nothing wrong with outright insulting smokers for smoking even if they aren't breathing their second hand smoke on you.ad1x2

Yeah, these days, if you try and give people health advice - with only the best of intentions - they take it as a personal attack. When that happens, I just think..."well, rather you than me".

I'm Trying to lose weight, its actually harder than one thinks.

There were periods in my childhood where I was really chubby, and went on big diets. The hardest part is just being hungry... and being in a family where food is a big comfort and reward, making yourself not eat it is awful. You just feel so badly about yourself.

Like, you want it, it will make you feel better, but you cant. Feelings of "How did I let it go this far" also come into play.

Its awful.

It's called lazy and undisciplined.

I have a sh1t metabolism.00-Riddick-00

It can be improved drastically for 99% of people.

i try. then the cravings and not feeling full become unbearable

SaudiFury

Nowadays people try to make you feel ashamed for even suggesting to somebody in a non-insulting way health tips. It isn't really our business but some of us don't want to see someone eat themselves to an early grave. It is funny when you think about the fact that you will be shamed for giving heath advise to the obese but there is nothing wrong with outright insulting smokers for smoking even if they aren't breathing their second hand smoke on you.ad1x2

It's called lazy and undisciplined.

hartsickdiscipl

[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]I have a sh1t metabolism.hartsickdiscipl

It can be improved drastically for 99% of people.

When I overeat it makes me stop appreciating the luxury of it, the taste of it, the texture.

That's how I know when I see somebody trying to fit as much in their mouth as they can at once as quickly as possible they aren't enjoying it... they just have an eating disorder and lack the common decency to stop being an economic burden.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]I have a sh1t metabolism.00-Riddick-00

It can be improved drastically for 99% of people.

I know quite a bit about it. I sit on my ass or do light workouts, I gain weight. I eat a comparable amount and work out harder, I lose weight. It's a concept that applies to most people. Sure, there are some disorders that can interfere with that. The majority of people that think they are being held back by something like that are lying to themselves.

[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

Look food habbits are not the way to lose weight. As long as you dont gorge yourself on a regular basis and stay away from trans fats and other garbage, all you gotta do is excersize. I don't mean jogging on a treadmill or something stupid like that, but find a physical activity that you enjoy. Paintball, skiing, martial arts, etc are all great physical activities with moderate to strenuous physical exertion; I knew a guy when I was doing brazilain jujitsu that dropped a good twenty pounds after three or four months of classes. I myself lost thrity pounds in one season of high school lacrosse. I still eat all the rich, fatty, salty, unhealthy food that I want, I just excersize as well.

Cataclism

Yes, losing wieght is as simple as burning more calroies per day than you consume, but when people live sedentary lifestyles, they basically have nothing else to do but eat. Think about it. Sitting on the couch, watching tv, might as well grab a handful of chips. I already ate lunch, but damn does that cliff bar look good. When you are out doing stuff instead of laying around inside your house, you have much less incentives to snack. I mean, if you compensate for physical activity by saying "I just worked out for an hour, that means I can stuff my face now!" then no, excersize wont work. But I find it very hard to believe that someone can lose a significant amount of weight by dieting alone. I suppose my point is that yes, you can starve yourself, but that takes much more mental determination. Why not do something physical that you enjoy and lose the weight that way instead of torturing yourself? Excersize can become very habit forming, as I said earlier, actually cutting down on the amount you eat as a side effect.

I've tried intense work outs and diets in the past only to lose a few pounds and eventually gain them back. Now that I haven't done any intense excercises for a few months, I haven't gained or lost any weight since then. I'm still growing so my body will slim out eventually.

[QUOTE="ad1x2"]Nowadays people try to make you feel ashamed for even suggesting to somebody in a non-insulting way health tips. It isn't really our business but some of us don't want to see someone eat themselves to an early grave. It is funny when you think about the fact that you will be shamed for giving heath advise to the obese but there is nothing wrong with outright insulting smokers for smoking even if they aren't breathing their second hand smoke on you.Fightingfan

2 years ago I used to have a good metabolism, used to be able to eat what I want and don't gain sh!t then one day all of a sudden it went to sh!t and I put on a bit of weight since then, not obsed or anything, just a little chubby. Iam just too lazy to loss the weight, you have to go on a diet and do crap loads of exerise over a pieroid of time to loss it, only to then quickly gain it back, who the hell wants to do that?

2 years ago I used to have a good metabolism, used to be able to eat what I want and don't gain sh!t then one day all of a sudden it went to sh!t and I put on a bit of weight since then, not obsed or anything, just a little chubby. Iam just too lazy to loss the weight, you have to go on a diet and do crap loads of exerise over a pieroid of time to loss it, only to then quickly gain it back, who the hell wants to do that?

ultimate-k

That's why a permanent lifestyle change is the only permanent solution. (apart from surgery which for some people is their only solution!)

[QUOTE="EatShanna"]Think of the damage he could do in the name of Allah.MrPraline

fat people are lazy and lack restraint

SirWander

I'm not fat but that is unnecessary for those that are.

I think the TC provided good possible answers to this question. I'm curious about the results.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="EatShanna"]Think of the damage he could do in the name of Allah.Nayef_shroof

[QUOTE="Cataclism"][QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

Look food habbits are not the way to lose weight. As long as you dont gorge yourself on a regular basis and stay away from trans fats and other garbage, all you gotta do is excersize. I don't mean jogging on a treadmill or something stupid like that, but find a physical activity that you enjoy. Paintball, skiing, martial arts, etc are all great physical activities with moderate to strenuous physical exertion; I knew a guy when I was doing brazilain jujitsu that dropped a good twenty pounds after three or four months of classes. I myself lost thrity pounds in one season of high school lacrosse. I still eat all the rich, fatty, salty, unhealthy food that I want, I just excersize as well.

Tokugawa77

Yes, losing wieght is as simple as burning more calroies per day than you consume, but when people live sedentary lifestyles, they basically have nothing else to do but eat. Think about it. Sitting on the couch, watching tv, might as well grab a handful of chips. I already ate lunch, but damn does that cliff bar look good. When you are out doing stuff instead of laying around inside your house, you have much less incentives to snack. I mean, if you compensate for physical activity by saying "I just worked out for an hour, that means I can stuff my face now!" then no, excersize wont work. But I find it very hard to believe that someone can lose a significant amount of weight by dieting alone. I suppose my point is that yes, you can starve yourself, but that takes much more mental determination. Why not do something physical that you enjoy and lose the weight that way instead of torturing yourself? Excersize can become very habit forming, as I said earlier, actually cutting down on the amount you eat as a side effect.

9 months of working out and a low calorie / fat diet and i lost 30 lbs. my metabolism sucks no matter what i do. the only time i ever actually lost a significant amount of weight was when i was homeless, i dropped like 90 lbs in 4 months. even then, that was only because i'd go 4-5 days without eating and just drinking lots of nice free water.

[QUOTE="Cataclism"][QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

Look food habbits are not the way to lose weight. As long as you dont gorge yourself on a regular basis and stay away from trans fats and other garbage, all you gotta do is excersize. I don't mean jogging on a treadmill or something stupid like that, but find a physical activity that you enjoy. Paintball, skiing, martial arts, etc are all great physical activities with moderate to strenuous physical exertion; I knew a guy when I was doing brazilain jujitsu that dropped a good twenty pounds after three or four months of classes. I myself lost thrity pounds in one season of high school lacrosse. I still eat all the rich, fatty, salty, unhealthy food that I want, I just excersize as well.

Tokugawa77

Yes, losing wieght is as simple as burning more calroies per day than you consume, but when people live sedentary lifestyles, they basically have nothing else to do but eat. Think about it. Sitting on the couch, watching tv, might as well grab a handful of chips. I already ate lunch, but damn does that cliff bar look good. When you are out doing stuff instead of laying around inside your house, you have much less incentives to snack. I mean, if you compensate for physical activity by saying "I just worked out for an hour, that means I can stuff my face now!" then no, excersize wont work. But I find it very hard to believe that someone can lose a significant amount of weight by dieting alone. I suppose my point is that yes, you can starve yourself, but that takes much more mental determination. Why not do something physical that you enjoy and lose the weight that way instead of torturing yourself? Excersize can become very habit forming, as I said earlier, actually cutting down on the amount you eat as a side effect.

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

i try. then the cravings and not feeling full become unbearable

br0kenrabbit

You're not suppose to eat until you're full. You're also suppose to be hungry a good hour or two before you eat. It's called an appetite.

It's normal.

A meal is not over when I'm full. It's over when I hate myself

/sarcasm :P

OCD. and my medication

A meal is not over when I'm full. It's over when I hate myself

/sarcasm :P

wis3boi

Haha. So you're one of those people who'll complain about being stuffed, but can't turn down dessert when offered, hunh?

:P

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

A meal is not over when I'm full. It's over when I hate myself

/sarcasm :P

br0kenrabbit

Haha. So you're one of those people who'll complain about being stuffed, but can't turn down dessert when offered, hunh?

:P

actually I rarely eat sweets, and if I do it's much later after dinner.

actually I rarely eat sweets, and if I do it's much later after dinner.

wis3boi

I'm not a big sweets fan, either...but I'd tear through you and your mom to get at a sopapella with ice cream. :)

Exercising is hard and it takes time. Also, I think there are levels of being overweight that aren't all that bad. Obesity is certainly a problem, but if you're relatively happy and healthy then there's no problem. I used to be very overweight, but a vegetarian diet and riding my bike around campus all day has me down to a reasonable size. I'm still overwight, but I'm not obese and I feel fine about myself. In my view if I ever get around to exercising it'll be a good thing, but I don't feel like it's a necessity.

Some more interesting responses. One in particular is this issue of difficulty. No one is saying losing weight and getting healthy is easy. But difficult is not the same as impossible. People today seem to equat difficulty or some adversity with "can't be done" and give up. Maybe simplistic, but if you're willing to put in the work and be disciplined, anything is possible. And I reiterate: 99% of attractive, fit ladies want a man who is also attractive and fit. Want a good looking woman? Get in shape because unless you gots a ton of money, your 40 inch processed food waist ain't getting one.GalvatronType_R

In my experience there are more fit women who appreciate men with good personalities over men with great bodies than unfit women who do. Of course this is all anecdotal, the truth is there are probably plenty of women in both categories who have differing opinions and you're probably just full of sh*t. I honestly hope most women aren't as shallow as you make them out to be.

Exercising is hard and it takes time. Also, I think there are levels of being overweight that aren't all that bad. Obesity is certainly a problem, but if you're relatively happy and healthy then there's no problem. I used to be very overweight, but a vegetarian diet and riding my bike around campus all day has me down to a reasonable size. I'm still overwight, but I'm not obese and I feel fine about myself. In my view if I ever get around to exercising it'll be a good thing, but I don't feel like it's a necessity.

[QUOTE="GalvatronType_R"]Some more interesting responses. One in particular is this issue of difficulty. No one is saying losing weight and getting healthy is easy. But difficult is not the same as impossible. People today seem to equat difficulty or some adversity with "can't be done" and give up. Maybe simplistic, but if you're willing to put in the work and be disciplined, anything is possible. And I reiterate: 99% of attractive, fit ladies want a man who is also attractive and fit. Want a good looking woman? Get in shape because unless you gots a ton of money, your 40 inch processed food waist ain't getting one.theone86

In my experience there are more fit women who appreciate men with good personalities over men with great bodies than unfit women who do. Of course this is all anecdotal, the truth is there are probably plenty of women in both categories who have differing opinions and you're probably just full of sh*t. I honestly hope most women aren't as shallow as you make them out to be.

Shallow? Please...

There is nothing wrong with wanting a mate who is in good physical shape, especially if you are in good physical shape.

[QUOTE="Kurushio"]Part of the reason people get fat is because they often do not think about what they eat and it is especially true if they are working all the time and have a lot of stress. A person needs to choose to help themselves and use self control and discipline and they could easily lost a few pounds per month. You dont have to give up all your favorite foods, just keep track of your total intake and try to keep it at about 1200-1600 calories a day (depending on size). I dont know how some people "like" being overweight to the point that most people would say fat. No one needs to be skin and bones or an athlete, but for most people the BMI calculator is actually a pretty good guideline except for bodybuilders or other people that are largely muscular.lonewolf604

To maintain their weight, yes you are right. To lose weight you should intake at least 1200 and preferably no more than 1600. That way you could indulge a day a week and still be ok calorie wise, not even including any exercise. You can drop about 3-4lbs a month which is a perfectly healthy drop in weight and you wouldnt be starving. It does depend on the size of the person as well. A heavy 6ft tall male could have a much higher calorie intake and still lose weight, but what i said still holds true. Also reducing sodium intake is another biggie since it makes you retain water and most people consume way more than they should each day.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

Exercising is hard and it takes time. Also, I think there are levels of being overweight that aren't all that bad. Obesity is certainly a problem, but if you're relatively happy and healthy then there's no problem. I used to be very overweight, but a vegetarian diet and riding my bike around campus all day has me down to a reasonable size. I'm still overwight, but I'm not obese and I feel fine about myself. In my view if I ever get around to exercising it'll be a good thing, but I don't feel like it's a necessity.

[QUOTE="GalvatronType_R"]Some more interesting responses. One in particular is this issue of difficulty. No one is saying losing weight and getting healthy is easy. But difficult is not the same as impossible. People today seem to equat difficulty or some adversity with "can't be done" and give up. Maybe simplistic, but if you're willing to put in the work and be disciplined, anything is possible. And I reiterate: 99% of attractive, fit ladies want a man who is also attractive and fit. Want a good looking woman? Get in shape because unless you gots a ton of money, your 40 inch processed food waist ain't getting one.GalvatronType_R

In my experience there are more fit women who appreciate men with good personalities over men with great bodies than unfit women who do. Of course this is all anecdotal, the truth is there are probably plenty of women in both categories who have differing opinions and you're probably just full of sh*t. I honestly hope most women aren't as shallow as you make them out to be.

Shallow? Please...

There is nothing wrong with wanting a mate who is in good physical shape, especially if you are in good physical shape.

You basically said that most (or physically fit) women are interested in three things: a good body, money, or a big d*ck. If that's all a woman is interested in then yes, she is shallow and not a f*ck should be given when she goes out with someone for those factors alone and then gets cheated on when her probably equally shallow boyfriend gets bored with her looks. It's not wrong for physical attraction to be a factor but, putting aside for the moment the fact that it is subjective, if it's all you're concerned about then you are shallow, that's the very definition of shallow.

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"][QUOTE="Kurushio"]Part of the reason people get fat is because they often do not think about what they eat and it is especially true if they are working all the time and have a lot of stress. A person needs to choose to help themselves and use self control and discipline and they could easily lost a few pounds per month. You dont have to give up all your favorite foods, just keep track of your total intake and try to keep it at about 1200-1600 calories a day (depending on size). I dont know how some people "like" being overweight to the point that most people would say fat. No one needs to be skin and bones or an athlete, but for most people the BMI calculator is actually a pretty good guideline except for bodybuilders or other people that are largely muscular.Kurushio

To maintain their weight, yes you are right. To lose weight you should intake at least 1200 and preferably no more than 1600. That way you could indulge a day a week and still be ok calorie wise, not even including any exercise. You can drop about 3-4lbs a month which is a perfectly healthy drop in weight and you wouldnt be starving. It does depend on the size of the person as well. A heavy 6ft tall male could have a much higher calorie intake and still lose weight, but what i said still holds true. Also reducing sodium intake is another biggie since it makes you retain water and most people consume way more than they should each day.

This thread is purely out of curiosity. A few months ago, I posted asking fat guys how they got that way.

Now, I want to explore the reasons what, if they are aware of themselves, prevents them from losing weight.

GalvatronType_R

These questions are always difficult.

You, for example, why don't assh*les just stop being assh*les?

I hate being able to see my own weiner. I don't even have any mirrors in my house.

i want to lose weight

[QUOTE="Kurushio"]

[QUOTE="lonewolf604"] Where did you get that base caloric intake? Stickville? The average intake for a small female is 1800 calories, the average male intake should be higher than that. Maybe 2000-2500 calories. lonewolf604

To maintain their weight, yes you are right. To lose weight you should intake at least 1200 and preferably no more than 1600. That way you could indulge a day a week and still be ok calorie wise, not even including any exercise. You can drop about 3-4lbs a month which is a perfectly healthy drop in weight and you wouldnt be starving. It does depend on the size of the person as well. A heavy 6ft tall male could have a much higher calorie intake and still lose weight, but what i said still holds true. Also reducing sodium intake is another biggie since it makes you retain water and most people consume way more than they should each day.

Eating and chilling is a very easy lifestyle.

I'm not fat anymore but I used to be. It was just kind of a cycle I fell into of being really lazy drinking beer, eating junk food, and playing video games in my free time. The thing that makes me not wanna be fat is just the basic lack of energy and feeling useless lol. Lifting heavy at the gym or mountain biking is just so rewarding compared to the lazy lifestyle.

A kid who has been fat since he was five, yeah totally his choice to be fat. Everybody is different. Skinny people telling fat people that they are slobs and blah blah blah is equivalent to Cindy Crawford insulting an ugly woman because she chose to be ugly instead of choosing to be beautiful like her. TonyDanzaFan

The kid isn't to blame, but his parents are technically neglecting/abusing the child by over-feeding it.