Ever think it is the users and not the mods making GS go downhill?

So you hear alot of talk these days about how the mods are drunk with power and banning everyone in sight. Have you ever considered the fact that as the community grows more and more idiots are coming to OT and violating the TOS and saying things which are obviously not something you should say on this board? I am not saying that every banning in the history of GS has been deserved, but is all the blame really on the mods or are the users part of the problem as well.

It is most definetly not the users...

If i post an explanation, I expect point losses.

The idiots aren't getting banned, though. More and more it seems like the first person to report anything even remotely resmebling a ToU violation gets the other person modded without fault being taken into account, and then when people like Sponge complain about good, well-known users being banned for minor infractions they get banned themselves. More and more Ot is becoming a revolving door, and the sad part is that there're more good users going out than coming in. Not to say there aren't any good users coming in, but it does seem like there are more users with a loud mouth and a trigger happy report finger coming in than decent ones who make OT a fun place to be.

Nah. The users aren't the ones giving you trips to the sin bin.

Yes, I mean the mods aren't perfect they make mistakes and such, but we need good users as well. While the TOS is strict it isn't all that difficult to post in accordance with it. thriteenthmonke

that is what I am saying. I have been here since 2005 and have always been able to post my opinion without censorship and not be modded, you just can't go around destroying anyone who disagrees with you.

That wasn't it. I'll just say if a dude intends to get banned, we're not going to wait around for it. Moderator

No, it's because of bad threads. :P

Oh no it is all the mods! ;)duxup

hold on wait.....im confused now:|

Well, Mods are former users like the rest of us, and theres some users that are former Mods... sooooooo.......both??

well, no, no, I think the whole format of OT is inherently flawed for perpetually bad discussion. the mods of course encourage merely posting what song you like, but for instance, every topic has to clearly pose a question. this might sound elementary, but by posting questions for the the start of a topic, all you're ever going to get is answers. as well, for some reason it's bad if a topic veers too far off the 'original' topic. basically Gamespot doesn't want really free-flowing discussion, because hey, you can make another topic for that, right? really it's all very stupid.quiglythegreat

that is what I am saying. I have been here since 2005 and have always been able to post my opinion without censorship and not be modded, you just can't go around destroying anyone who disagrees with you.

iloverikku11

I miss the '08 OT... :[[[Bloodseeker23

I am not saying that every banning in the history of GS has been deserved, but is all the blame really on the mods or are the users part of the problem as well.

iloverikku11

[QUOTE="Bloodseeker23"]I miss the '08 OT... :[[[Oblivionfan10

I think it's a little of both since everyone has a meanie side to them.

It's because of AIDS.

I personally don't think it's anybody's fault. Just a distorted view of what people think that OT was like when they first starting frequenting.ff7fan2

Maybe it is both

[QUOTE="ff7fan2"]I personally don't think it's anybody's fault. Just a distorted view of what people think that OT was like when they first starting frequenting.thriteenthmonke

I remember it being very different, specifically there are a ton of users who used to post on OT back then that don't now, and I haven't even been on OT that long. MattyK, NeonTiger, 619, and now Panda and Sponge are just a few users who used to be frequent contributers and are nowhere to be seen lately for one reason or another. That, plus the people that still are here are very much less a community than they previously were due to some close groups being broken up. I'm not saying that OT is going to suddenly go from bad to horrible because of one ban, but it certainly does start to chip away at the community little by little. And as I said, there don't seem to be a ton of new posters stepping in to take their places. A few, but not nearly enough.

Somewhat...I never found GS to be a very good online community since I came here (July '08). At least here, most of the mods here are part of the community. At a lot of other sites, they just serve out the moderations without really contributing anything else. You have to give them credit that the GS mods are at least trying to hold the community together.

I come to GS forum for the fact that it is active and fairly well maintained. I have a couple people from here on MSN and play online games with them and stuff, but there are a lot of psuedo-intellects here, people who just like to argue,immature people, and just people who are not all that fun:?

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]It's basically 25 percent users 25 percent mods 25 percent Terms of Use and then 25 percent is anyone's guessBio_Spark

Lizard men. The last 25% is due to those scheming Lizard men.

well, no, no, I think the whole format of OT is inherently flawed for perpetually bad discussion. the mods of course encourage merely posting what song you like, but for instance, every topic has to clearly pose a question. this might sound elementary, but by posting questions for the the start of a topic, all you're ever going to get is answers. as well, for some reason it's bad if a topic veers too far off the 'original' topic. basically Gamespot doesn't want really free-flowing discussion, because hey, you can make another topic for that, right? really it's all very stupid.quiglythegreat

[QUOTE="Bio_Spark"]

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]It's basically 25 percent users 25 percent mods 25 percent Terms of Use and then 25 percent is anyone's guesskiller336

Lizard men. The last 25% is due to those scheming Lizard men.

It's donkey lobster crossbreed hybrids from Saturn.

I miss the '08 OT... :[[[Bloodseeker23

[QUOTE="killer336"][QUOTE="Bio_Spark"]

Lizard men. The last 25% is due to those scheming Lizard men.

It's donkey lobster crossbreed hybrids from Saturn.

As someone who has been here for nearly ten years, has received numerous moderations, and probably crosses the line sometimes in my numerous angry rants, I've got to say that the fault lies with the users.

I have been to FAR less tolerating forums, and I can honestly say that I've deserved about 90% of the moderations that I've had. Sure, there are the odd few that you think were unwarranted, but most people don't get BANNED for that kind of stuff. Usually you don't get BANNED unless you make very clear and/or repeated violations.

It's really not that hard to follow the rules.

It's the users. Users who sign up for this very forum who for some reason seem to ignore the ToS that they're suppose to read so they know whats allowed and whats not allowed. While some moderation can be a bit draconian and, at times, vague as to why happened in the majority of the cases it's just the users acting like the fool for doing something that violated ToS and then complaining that they either "didn't know" (which in my opinion should be cause enough to be banned if not reading ToS is reason for screwing up) or "the mods are taking the fun out of GS" (which if that's the case then why are they still posting and whining about it when they could just leave and go somewhere where they can have free rein to have diarrhea of the keyboard and not get in trouble).

I've been a member for almost 6 years now (give or take a couple months) and I've been very opinionated when I need to be but I know whats allowed and what's crossing the line into being modded. Unlike some users I actually have control over what I say and and filter out what I know can get me in trouble. I'm guessing some people just don't have that mental filter which prevents them from doing stupid things or saying them without actually thinking if it's actually a good thing.

I think every single one of my moderations has been unjustified and petty. The mods are very overzealous.

There are two groups of people bringing these forums down:

1. Trolls
2. People who cannot recognize trolls

Of course the users are part of the problem... I'm not going to say anything further because I don't feel like getting modded because someone decides I'm "flaming" the mods...chessmaster1989

just what i was about to say

Yes I have. And the users are to blame for much of it. Mods can't change the content....only users can.