Do you think Christmas should be celebrated only by Christians?

Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Jesus and its a celebration for those in the Christian faith but these days Christmas is getting celebrated by everyone which I'm not saying is bad but this completely changes the fact that Christmas is a Christian celebration.

I mean why doesn't everyone celebrate all celebrations, why is it only Christmas which is celebrated worldwide?

p.s. I'm not Christian?

Whenever people ask me this question, I have two responses, which I select based on my mood:

1. "Fine, I'm not celebrating Christmas, I'm celebrating Saturnalia. I love Roman culture"

2. "Christmas doesn't mean what it used to mean in terms of religion to the vast majority of people. It is a fun time to relax with friends and family, eat too much food and get presents. It's been twisted and materialised to the point where it is unrecognisable - so there's no real reason why I shouldn't join in."

Some people celebrate Jesus's birth

Most celebrate it because of Santa...

and some celebrate it when the 3 kings came with presents on the 6th of january.

 Some don't celebrate it because its just another scheme to make you spend money.

Christmas is what it is, the celebration of the birth of Christ. Many who celebrate it don't realize it. It is a cash cow for for the economy. I think everyone should celebrate it if they want. I do think it is funny that atheists celebrate it and claim it is for the kids just because kids love presents.flavort

[QUOTE="flavort"]Christmas is what it is, the celebration of the birth of Christ. Many who celebrate it don't realize it. It is a cash cow for for the economy. I think everyone should celebrate it if they want. I do think it is funny that atheists celebrate it and claim it is for the kids just because kids love presents.Mind_Mover

[QUOTE="flavort"]Christmas is what it is, the celebration of the birth of Christ. Many who celebrate it don't realize it. It is a cash cow for for the economy. I think everyone should celebrate it if they want. I do think it is funny that atheists celebrate it and claim it is for the kids just because kids love presents.Mind_Mover

Thanks for the sympathy, but I've only ever spoken to one person who felt like that. For most people I know (and for myself), atheism is liberating. We don't think our every action is being judged by an almighty god. We don't fear going to Hell. We think that, as this is our only chance at life, we should live it to the full.

Atheism isn't as depressing as a lot of people seem to think.

Although, of course, not everyone would agree with this. As atheism isn't an organised religion, there's no set beliefs you have to follow. So there probably are atheists who think completely differently. I'm just going on my own experiences.

Christmas shouldn't be celebrated at all.85070537783

Partay pewper. 

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="flavort"]Christmas is what it is, the celebration of the birth of Christ. Many who celebrate it don't realize it. It is a cash cow for for the economy. I think everyone should celebrate it if they want. I do think it is funny that atheists celebrate it and claim it is for the kids just because kids love presents.Snomel

Thanks for the sympathy, but I've only ever spoken to one person who felt like that. For most people I know (and for myself), atheism is liberating. We don't think our every action is being judged by an almighty god. We don't fear going to Hell. We think that, as this is our only chance at life, we should live it to the full.

Atheism isn't as depressing as a lot of people seem to think.

Although, of course, not everyone would agree with this. As atheism isn't an organised religion, there's no set beliefs you have to follow. So there probably are atheists who think completely differently. I'm just going on my own experiences.

but really don't you even care about living after you die? wouldn't you like to still be alive after dead?

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[QUOTE="flavort"]Christmas is what it is, the celebration of the birth of Christ. Many who celebrate it don't realize it. It is a cash cow for for the economy. I think everyone should celebrate it if they want. I do think it is funny that atheists celebrate it and claim it is for the kids just because kids love presents.Snomel

Thanks for the sympathy, but I've only ever spoken to one person who felt like that. For most people I know (and for myself), atheism is liberating. We don't think our every action is being judged by an almighty god. We don't fear going to Hell. We think that, as this is our only chance at life, we should live it to the full.

Atheism isn't as depressing as a lot of people seem to think.

Although, of course, not everyone would agree with this. As atheism isn't an organised religion, there's no set beliefs you have to follow. So there probably are atheists who think completely differently. I'm just going on my own experiences.

[QUOTE="flavort"]Christmas is what it is, the celebration of the birth of Christ. Many who celebrate it don't realize it. It is a cash cow for for the economy. I think everyone should celebrate it if they want. I do think it is funny that atheists celebrate it and claim it is for the kids just because kids love presents.Mind_Mover

ok =)

but really don't you even care about living after you die? wouldn't you like to still be alive after dead?

Mind_Mover

Meh, not really. I'm quite comfortable with the idea that when I die, that's it - game over. The idea of an after-life seems more strange to me - why should we continue living?

And I figure, once I die, I'll be too dead to care, which makes the whole thing seem less scary. If that makes sense? It's hard to put into words.

[QUOTE="Snomel"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="flavort"]Christmas is what it is, the celebration of the birth of Christ. Many who celebrate it don't realize it. It is a cash cow for for the economy. I think everyone should celebrate it if they want. I do think it is funny that atheists celebrate it and claim it is for the kids just because kids love presents.Mind_Mover

Thanks for the sympathy, but I've only ever spoken to one person who felt like that. For most people I know (and for myself), atheism is liberating. We don't think our every action is being judged by an almighty god. We don't fear going to Hell. We think that, as this is our only chance at life, we should live it to the full.

Atheism isn't as depressing as a lot of people seem to think.

Although, of course, not everyone would agree with this. As atheism isn't an organised religion, there's no set beliefs you have to follow. So there probably are atheists who think completely differently. I'm just going on my own experiences.

but really don't you even care about living after you die? wouldn't you like to still be alive after dead?

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="flavort"]Christmas is what it is, the celebration of the birth of Christ. Many who celebrate it don't realize it. It is a cash cow for for the economy. I think everyone should celebrate it if they want. I do think it is funny that atheists celebrate it and claim it is for the kids just because kids love presents.Snomel

Thanks for the sympathy, but I've only ever spoken to one person who felt like that. For most people I know (and for myself), atheism is liberating. We don't think our every action is being judged by an almighty god. We don't fear going to Hell. We think that, as this is our only chance at life, we should live it to the full.

Atheism isn't as depressing as a lot of people seem to think.

Although, of course, not everyone would agree with this. As atheism isn't an organised religion, there's no set beliefs you have to follow. So there probably are atheists who think completely differently. I'm just going on my own experiences.

I don't fear going to hell and I am a Christian and I have done some horrible things. I see atheist see themself as the #1 in their lives. Like they are the closest thing to God in their lives. I don't know how you feel though, it is in general. As a Christian I believe I should strive to live as Jesus wants me too. I see that as not living my life for myself but to help others that is my reason for being here. I am no better than anyone because I am a Christian.

[QUOTE="Snomel"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]

[QUOTE="flavort"]Christmas is what it is, the celebration of the birth of Christ. Many who celebrate it don't realize it. It is a cash cow for for the economy. I think everyone should celebrate it if they want. I do think it is funny that atheists celebrate it and claim it is for the kids just because kids love presents.flavort

Thanks for the sympathy, but I've only ever spoken to one person who felt like that. For most people I know (and for myself), atheism is liberating. We don't think our every action is being judged by an almighty god. We don't fear going to Hell. We think that, as this is our only chance at life, we should live it to the full.

Atheism isn't as depressing as a lot of people seem to think.

Although, of course, not everyone would agree with this. As atheism isn't an organised religion, there's no set beliefs you have to follow. So there probably are atheists who think completely differently. I'm just going on my own experiences.

I don't fear going to hell and I am a Christian and I have done some horrible things. I see atheist see themself as the #1 in their lives. Like they are the closest thing to God in their lives. I don't know how you feel though, it is in general. As a Christian I believe I should strive to live as Jesus wants me too. I see that as not living my life for myself but to help others that is my reason for being here. I am no better than anyone because I am a Christian.

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]ok =)

but really don't you even care about living after you die? wouldn't you like to still be alive after dead?

Snomel

Meh, not really. I'm quite comfortable with the idea that when I die, that's it - game over. The idea of an after-life seems more strange to me - why should we continue living?

And I figure, once I die, I'll be too dead to care, which makes the whole thing seem less scary. If that makes sense? It's hard to put into words.

I'm am not saying that your life sucks :P there is no other logical explanation i can find though.. 

Christmas shouldn't be celebrated at all.85070537783

Christmas shouldn't be celebrated at all.85070537783

How can we think we're close to God if we don't believe in him? :? And you don't have to believe in Christ to live your life for others...I am not trying to go against your beliefs, sorry if it comes out like that.Krazykraz01

Not close to Him but the closest thing to Him. I know you don't have to believe in God to live for others, it is a large part of Christianity.

I don't fear going to hell and I am a Christian and I have done some horrible things. I see atheist see themself as the #1 in their lives. Like they are the closest thing to God in their lives. I don't know how you feel though, it is in general. As a Christian I believe I should strive to live as Jesus wants me too. I see that as not living my life for myself but to help others that is my reason for being here. I am no better than anyone because I am a Christian. flavort

I don't quite understand why you think an atheist considers themselves to be number 1. I would do anything to help the people I care about, my friends and family, they definitely come before me in my life. I don't need a god to tell me to do this, I do it because I care about them. I definitely don't consider myself to be like a god!

Although once again, this is just my own personal perspective.... Maybe you've spoken to other atheists who did give that impression though?

Christmas IS the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. If you don't believe in christ, what's the point of celebrating it.Djammal86

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How can we think we're close to God if we don't believe in him? :? And you don't have to believe in Christ to live your life for others...I am not trying to go against your beliefs, sorry if it comes out like that.flavort

Not close to Him but the closest thing to Him. I know you don't have to believe in God to live for others, it is a large part of Christianity.

[QUOTE="flavort"]

[QUOTE="Krazykraz01"]
How can we think we're close to God if we don't believe in him? :? And you don't have to believe in Christ to live your life for others...I am not trying to go against your beliefs, sorry if it comes out like that.Krazykraz01

Not close to Him but the closest thing to Him. I know you don't have to believe in God to live for others, it is a large part of Christianity.

I did not say all. But the majority of terrorist are Muslims.

I did not say all. But the majority of terrorist are Muslims.

flavort

[QUOTE="Snomel"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]ok =)

but really don't you even care about living after you die? wouldn't you like to still be alive after dead?

Mind_Mover

Meh, not really. I'm quite comfortable with the idea that when I die, that's it - game over. The idea of an after-life seems more strange to me - why should we continue living?

And I figure, once I die, I'll be too dead to care, which makes the whole thing seem less scary. If that makes sense? It's hard to put into words.

I'm am not saying that your life sucks :P there is no other logical explanation i can find though.. 

Sorry, I meant...... "why should we continue living..... once we have died". I don't always complete my trains of thought =/

I'd say my life is average to good. I've been very lucky in some ways, not so much in others. There have been (brief) times when I didn't want to continue living, but they pass, things get better again. And that's why we should continue living.

Argh... there are more thoughts in my head, struggling to express them.

What's with the invasion of religious topics!? THE_DRUGGIE

[QUOTE="Snomel"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]ok =)

but really don't you even care about living after you die? wouldn't you like to still be alive after dead?

Mind_Mover

Meh, not really. I'm quite comfortable with the idea that when I die, that's it - game over. The idea of an after-life seems more strange to me - why should we continue living?

And I figure, once I die, I'll be too dead to care, which makes the whole thing seem less scary. If that makes sense? It's hard to put into words.

I'm am not saying that your life sucks :P there is no other logical explanation i can find though.. 

[QUOTE="Krazykraz01"][QUOTE="flavort"]

[QUOTE="Krazykraz01"]
How can we think we're close to God if we don't believe in him? :? And you don't have to believe in Christ to live your life for others...I am not trying to go against your beliefs, sorry if it comes out like that.flavort

Not close to Him but the closest thing to Him. I know you don't have to believe in God to live for others, it is a large part of Christianity.

I did not say all. But the majority of terrorist are Muslims.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]What's with the invasion of religious topics!? Cyrax-Sektor

Madness? THIS IS SPARTA! *kicks you in hole*

Seriously, though....I think there needs to be a sticky before this gets out of hand.

[QUOTE="Krazykraz01"][QUOTE="flavort"]

[QUOTE="Krazykraz01"]
How can we think we're close to God if we don't believe in him? :? And you don't have to believe in Christ to live your life for others...I am not trying to go against your beliefs, sorry if it comes out like that.flavort

Not close to Him but the closest thing to Him. I know you don't have to believe in God to live for others, it is a large part of Christianity.

I did not say all. But the majority of terrorist are Muslims.

[QUOTE="flavort"]

I did not say all. But the majority of terrorist are Muslims.

Hewkii

no

[QUOTE="Krazykraz01"][QUOTE="flavort"]

[QUOTE="Krazykraz01"]
How can we think we're close to God if we don't believe in him? :? And you don't have to believe in Christ to live your life for others...I am not trying to go against your beliefs, sorry if it comes out like that.flavort

Not close to Him but the closest thing to Him. I know you don't have to believe in God to live for others, it is a large part of Christianity.

I did not say all. But the majority of terrorist are Muslims.

I'm not entirely sure what this has to do with the topic anymore.... But I just had to point out that this isn't true. Two other terrorists groups that spring to mind are IRA (Ireland) and ETA (Spain). Nothing to do with Muslims.

In fact, there are LOTS of different types of terrorists...

[QUOTE="85070537783"]Christmas shouldn't be celebrated at all.Apsinthion

[QUOTE="Mind_Mover"][QUOTE="Snomel"][QUOTE="Mind_Mover"]ok =)

but really don't you even care about living after you die? wouldn't you like to still be alive after dead?

Mr_sprinkles

Meh, not really. I'm quite comfortable with the idea that when I die, that's it - game over. The idea of an after-life seems more strange to me - why should we continue living?

And I figure, once I die, I'll be too dead to care, which makes the whole thing seem less scary. If that makes sense? It's hard to put into words.

I'm am not saying that your life sucks :P there is no other logical explanation i can find though..

[QUOTE="Apsinthion"][QUOTE="85070537783"]Christmas shouldn't be celebrated at all.85070537783