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#1 Joshy485
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well..do you support the legalization of marijuana?

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#2 gobo212
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Sure. Why wouldn't I?
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#3 Brainkiller05
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Ofcourse. Why wouldn't I?
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yes, yes and yes.

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#5 SpidersRMe
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Yep.

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#6 foxhound_fox
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I do. I also support the legalization and regulation of all controlled substances. If people want to put crap in their bodies on their own time and with their own money, we should let them. No reason to put them in jail and waste billions of tax payer dollars for being human.

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#7 rob1101
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most everyone does here.
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#8 Parandrus
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I support decriminalization.
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#9 rob1101
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I do. I also support the legalization and regulation of all controlled substances. If people want to put crap in their bodies on their own time and with their own money, we should let them. No reason to put them in jail and waste billions of tax payer dollars for being human.

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your my hero. I personally don't use any hard drugs but I 100% agree with that above statement.
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#10 -xPANICx-
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yes. marijuana threads are taking over OT :lol:

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#11 fraz1776
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No

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#12 awssk8er716
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Don't smoke. Wouldn't mind it.

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#13 smokeydabear076
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No, I'm not against it either... I just don't care.

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#14 ferrari2001
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No I don't

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#15 MoonMarvel
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Not another one of these. Can't we just get a sticky so people stop making 60 of these a week?
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#16 The_Solid
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Here's an intresting piece. Ever seen a guy high on marijuanna beat his wife/or kids.No,it's too damn hungry to do so. But people on Beer beat their family.
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Here's an intresting piece. Ever seen a guy high on marijuanna beat his wife/or kids.No,it's too damn hungry to do so.The_Solid

Uh-huh. . .

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[QUOTE="The_Solid"]Here's an intresting piece. Ever seen a guy high on marijuanna beat his wife/or kids.No,it's too damn hungry to do so.Theokhoth

Uh-huh. . .

Oh Please, that was one NUT case years and years ago. It isn't a regular occurence like it is with alocohol.
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#19 jimmyjammer69
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No.
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#20 mattykovax
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Thanks for the third option. That is what I support. You are not saying its okay,but no ones getting punished. And fines are a lot more collectible than store and tax revenue considering if it was legalized most people who smoke would just put a hydroponic setup in the closet. Once again massachusettes helps lead the way. We have Gay marriage and decriminilized weed,and to the chagrin of conservatives,not only have we not fallen apart,but things are not much different than before,just more loving happy people and less crowding in the courts and jail.
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#21 6_volts
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Yes.
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#22 zombieman666
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Yes, yes I do
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#23 KG86
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Sure, why not?

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#24 ragek1ll589
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I support decriminalization.

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#25 needled24-7
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[QUOTE="The_Solid"]Here's an intresting piece. Ever seen a guy high on marijuanna beat his wife/or kids.No,it's too damn hungry to do so.Theokhoth

Uh-huh. . .

If somebody cooks their wife, I don't care what drug they're on, they've got deeper problems than that.

I fully support the legalization of marijuana. No reason why it shouldn't be legal.

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#26 Toriko42
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I support it one hundred percent
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#27 aliblabla2007
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Yes, but regulated.

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#28 matthayter700
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Thanks for the third option. That is what I support. You are not saying its okay,but no ones getting punished.mattykovax
How is legalization saying it's okay in a way that decriminalization isn't?
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"]Thanks for the third option. That is what I support. You are not saying its okay,but no ones getting punished.matthayter700
How is legalization saying it's okay in a way that decriminalization isn't?

Legalization could lead to commercialisation, decriminalisation just prevents users from being treated as criminals.

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#31 helium_flash
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Yes, I would very much like that.

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#33 mattykovax
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[QUOTE="matthayter700"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]Thanks for the third option. That is what I support. You are not saying its okay,but no ones getting punished.jimmyjammer69

How is legalization saying it's okay in a way that decriminalization isn't?

Legalization could lead to commercialisation, decriminalisation just prevents users from being treated as criminals.

Exactly my point,just put better. and not just commercalization,but I dont think it would be great if everyone started smoking tommorow. Yet those who allready do are not really harming anyone.
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#36 helium_flash
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It pretty much is decriminalized now, which, if anything, it counterproductive. This pretty much opens the market for the drug dealers. If the government is going to not punish people from smoking grass, they should legalize it so that it can benefit both the smokers (not being laced with crap and lowering the price) and the government (more taxes from companies that sell weed).

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It pretty much is decriminalized now, which, if anything, it counterproductive. This pretty much opens the market for the drug dealers. If the government is going to not punish people from smoking grass, they should legalize it so that it can benefit both the smokers (not being laced with crap and lowering the price) and the government (more taxes from companies that sell weed).

helium_flash

It's a nice idea, but unless someone is growing their own, there's no reason to trust large-scale approved producers any more than underground growers. Have a read of this, it's pretty shocking:

There are more than 4,000 ingredients in a cigarette other than tobacco. Common additives include yeast, wine, caffeine, beeswax and chocolate. Here are some other ingredients:

Ammonia: Household cleaner
Angelica root extract: Known to cause cancer in animals
Arsenic: Used in rat poisons
Benzene: Used in making dyes, synthetic rubber
Butane: Gas; used in lighter fluid
Carbon monoxide: Poisonous gas
Cadmium: Used in batteries
Cyanide: Deadly poison
DDT: A banned insecticide
Ethyl Furoate: Causes liver damage in animals
Lead: Poisonous in high doses
Formaldehiyde: Used to preserve dead specimens
Methoprene: Insecticide
Megastigmatrienone: Chemical naturally found in grapefruit juice
Maltitol: Sweetener for diabetics
Napthalene: Ingredient in mothballs
Methyl isocyanate: Its accidental release killed 2000 people in Bhopal, India in 1984
Polonium: Cancer-causing radioactive elementradioactive element

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It pretty much is decriminalized now, which, if anything, it counterproductive. This pretty much opens the market for the drug dealers. If the government is going to not punish people from smoking grass, they should legalize it so that it can benefit both the smokers (not being laced with crap and lowering the price) and the government (more taxes from companies that sell weed).

helium_flash

Yeah I heard that a lot of places won't really do anything if they catch you with it, but the county I live in is called Cobb, which basically stands for Count On Being Busted. :(

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#39 helium_flash
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[QUOTE="helium_flash"]

It pretty much is decriminalized now, which, if anything, it counterproductive. This pretty much opens the market for the drug dealers. If the government is going to not punish people from smoking grass, they should legalize it so that it can benefit both the smokers (not being laced with crap and lowering the price) and the government (more taxes from companies that sell weed).

needled24-7

Yeah I heard that a lot of places won't really do anything if they catch you with it, but the county I live in is called Cobb, which basically stands for Count On Being Busted. :(

Where do you live? Things are pretty lax where I am (for the most part). Maybe it is because I'm in college, but they don't really try to catch kids smoking pot or drinking alcohol. I live in Southwest VA btw.

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#40 helium_flash
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[QUOTE="helium_flash"]

It pretty much is decriminalized now, which, if anything, it counterproductive. This pretty much opens the market for the drug dealers. If the government is going to not punish people from smoking grass, they should legalize it so that it can benefit both the smokers (not being laced with crap and lowering the price) and the government (more taxes from companies that sell weed).

jimmyjammer69

It's a nice idea, but unless someone is growing their own, there's no reason to trust large-scale approved producers any more than underground growers. Have a read of this, it's pretty shocking:

There are more than 4,000 ingredients in a cigarette other than tobacco. Common additives include yeast, wine, caffeine, beeswax and chocolate. Here are some other ingredients:

Ammonia: Household cleaner
Angelica root extract: Known to cause cancer in animals
Arsenic: Used in rat poisons
Benzene: Used in making dyes, synthetic rubber
Butane: Gas; used in lighter fluid
Carbon monoxide: Poisonous gas
Cadmium: Used in batteries
Cyanide: Deadly poison
DDT: A banned insecticide
Ethyl Furoate: Causes liver damage in animals
Lead: Poisonous in high doses
Formaldehiyde: Used to preserve dead specimens
Methoprene: Insecticide
Megastigmatrienone: Chemical naturally found in grapefruit juice
Maltitol: Sweetener for diabetics
Napthalene: Ingredient in mothballs
Methyl isocyanate: Its accidental release killed 2000 people in Bhopal, India in 1984
Polonium: Cancer-causing radioactive elementradioactive element

Source

That's true, but people could also grow their own marijuana as well. They could buy marijuana seeds that haven't been tainted at all.

Plus, you didn't respond to my initial point: drug deals already put a lot of crap into marijuana. The only difference is that the amount put in by the companies wouldn't be deadly in such small doses.

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i support legalization. i think it would reduce crime rates, prices, and flow of money to foreign countries. it's not sustainable for a country to spend millions on drugs, money that goes to other countries and never comes back.
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[QUOTE="matthayter700"][QUOTE="mattykovax"]Thanks for the third option. That is what I support. You are not saying its okay,but no ones getting punished.jimmyjammer69

How is legalization saying it's okay in a way that decriminalization isn't?

Legalization could lead to commercialisation, decriminalisation just prevents users from being treated as criminals.

Legalization could also lead to regulation. o.o And how exactly DOES commercialization imply that something is good?
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

[QUOTE="helium_flash"]

It pretty much is decriminalized now, which, if anything, it counterproductive. This pretty much opens the market for the drug dealers. If the government is going to not punish people from smoking grass, they should legalize it so that it can benefit both the smokers (not being laced with crap and lowering the price) and the government (more taxes from companies that sell weed).

helium_flash

It's a nice idea, but unless someone is growing their own, there's no reason to trust large-scale approved producers any more than underground growers. Have a read of this, it's pretty shocking:

There are more than 4,000 ingredients in a cigarette other than tobacco. Common additives include yeast, wine, caffeine, beeswax and chocolate. Here are some other ingredients:

Ammonia: Household cleaner
Angelica root extract: Known to cause cancer in animals
Arsenic: Used in rat poisons
Benzene: Used in making dyes, synthetic rubber
Butane: Gas; used in lighter fluid
Carbon monoxide: Poisonous gas
Cadmium: Used in batteries
Cyanide: Deadly poison
DDT: A banned insecticide
Ethyl Furoate: Causes liver damage in animals
Lead: Poisonous in high doses
Formaldehiyde: Used to preserve dead specimens
Methoprene: Insecticide
Megastigmatrienone: Chemical naturally found in grapefruit juice
Maltitol: Sweetener for diabetics
Napthalene: Ingredient in mothballs
Methyl isocyanate: Its accidental release killed 2000 people in Bhopal, India in 1984
Polonium: Cancer-causing radioactive elementradioactive element

Source

That's true, but people could also grow their own marijuana as well. They could buy marijuana seeds that haven't been tainted at all.

To my mind, that makes much more sense than legalisation. You could keep supply illegal, even increase penalties, but decriminalise cultivation for personal use. It would kill the dealer culture, and prevent some of the nasty side-effects of commercialisation. I've always thought it seemed kind of hypocritical of the government to simultaneously claim that a substance is harmful (as with tobacco and alcohol) and yet at the same time profit from its sale.

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[QUOTE="matthayter700"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

How is legalization saying it's okay in a way that decriminalization isn't?matthayter700
Legalization could lead to commercialisation, decriminalisation just prevents users from being treated as criminals.

Legalization could also lead to regulation. o.o And how exactly DOES commercialization imply that something is good?

Could you paraphrase the commercialisation question? I'm not sure I follow.
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[QUOTE="helium_flash"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] It's a nice idea, but unless someone is growing their own, there's no reason to trust large-scale approved producers any more than underground growers. Have a read of this, it's pretty shocking:

There are more than 4,000 ingredients in a cigarette other than tobacco. Common additives include yeast, wine, caffeine, beeswax and chocolate. Here are some other ingredients:

jimmyjammer69

That's true, but people could also grow their own marijuana as well. They could buy marijuana seeds that haven't been tainted at all.

To my mind, that makes much more sense than legalisation. You could keep supply illegal, even increase penalties, but decriminalise cultivation for personal use. It would kill the dealer culture, and prevent some of the nasty side-effects of commercialisation. I've always thought it seemed kind of hypocritical of the government to simultaneously claim that a substance is harmful (as with tobacco and alcohol) and yet at the same time profit from its sale.

Meh, I still think it should be legalized. I dont know if companies would add a bunch of dangerous drap to marijuana, but for those who don't care, they should have the option to buy it. And for those who don't like the crap put into it, they can't grow their own weed.

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#46 matthayter700
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[QUOTE="mattykovax"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

How is legalization saying it's okay in a way that decriminalization isn't?matthayter700
Legalization could lead to commercialisation, decriminalisation just prevents users from being treated as criminals.

Exactly my point,just put better. and not just commercalization,but I dont think it would be great if everyone started smoking tommorow. Yet those who allready do are not really harming anyone.

Some might argue otherwise; at least for some users. But the relevant point is, if the law is the only thing holding "everyone" back from starting smoking tomorrow, isn't that a problem ITSELF? If people are so inclined to start smoking that the law is what's stopping them, then wouldn't that suggest that the law is somewhat of a placebo for self-control? Wouldn't getting rid of such a placebo be more helpful in the long run, then?
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marijuana is bad mkay
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[QUOTE="matthayter700"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] Legalization could lead to commercialisation, decriminalisation just prevents users from being treated as criminals.

jimmyjammer69

Legalization could also lead to regulation. o.o And how exactly DOES commercialization imply that something is good?

Could you paraphrase the commercialisation question? I'm not sure I follow.

It seemes from your "commercialization" comment that you were suggesting that something that would "lead to commercialisation" would, as some kind of result of that, give people the message that using marijuana as a drug is ok. Not that I ruled out that it was; again, the reason given (granted, by someone else, not you) for the opposition to legalization was the idea that it would lead to the idea that it's ok.

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[QUOTE="helium_flash"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] It's a nice idea, but unless someone is growing their own, there's no reason to trust large-scale approved producers any more than underground growers. Have a read of this, it's pretty shocking:

There are more than 4,000 ingredients in a cigarette other than tobacco. Common additives include yeast, wine, caffeine, beeswax and chocolate. Here are some other ingredients:

Ammonia: Household cleaner
Angelica root extract: Known to cause cancer in animals
Arsenic: Used in rat poisons
Benzene: Used in making dyes, synthetic rubber
Butane: Gas; used in lighter fluid
Carbon monoxide: Poisonous gas
Cadmium: Used in batteries
Cyanide: Deadly poison
DDT: A banned insecticide
Ethyl Furoate: Causes liver damage in animals
Lead: Poisonous in high doses
Formaldehiyde: Used to preserve dead specimens
Methoprene: Insecticide
Megastigmatrienone: Chemical naturally found in grapefruit juice
Maltitol: Sweetener for diabetics
Napthalene: Ingredient in mothballs
Methyl isocyanate: Its accidental release killed 2000 people in Bhopal, India in 1984
Polonium: Cancer-causing radioactive elementradioactive element

Source

jimmyjammer69

That's true, but people could also grow their own marijuana as well. They could buy marijuana seeds that haven't been tainted at all.

To my mind, that makes much more sense than legalisation. You could keep supply illegal, even increase penalties, but decriminalise cultivation for personal use. It would kill the dealer culture, and prevent some of the nasty side-effects of commercialisation. I've always thought it seemed kind of hypocritical of the government to simultaneously claim that a substance is harmful (as with tobacco and alcohol) and yet at the same time profit from its sale.

Well, the thing is, when they profit from its sale, they get to have money for public services that tend to counteract some of their negative effects. Taxing cigarettes and alcohol means hospitals have the money to deal with the resulting lung cancer and liver damage.

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I think that drug use, in general, is becoming pervasive and getting completely out of hand, so I guess I'd have to say no. The punishment for using drugs should be at least as severe as the penalty for trafficking in them... then again, I also strongly feel that cigarettes and alcohol should be contraband - nothing good can ever come from using them either...