[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] [QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]No I'm against it, Marriage has been a religious union for thousands of years and the gov't wants to feel special and tell us what marriage it. Since Most religions are against Gay marriage it shouldn't be allowed. If you don't have religions you should just be allowed to live together. Why should their be special treatments for married people in the first place?mindstorm
so you believe that heterosexual marriages should not have legal benefits either? If so then fair enough I guess :P
Wait, he said that only religious people deserve to get married? The 'logic' in this thread staggers me.I see the point in that as a future pastor I will be uniting people in marriage under God. I will refuse to do not only homosexual marriages but also marriages between unbelievers, even if only one of them is not a believer.
That's exactly my problem, you think marriages only happen in churches. wtf? I know they don't but traditionally it is a religious practice...
but not always... I do realize that actually but generally speaking that was the case...
So none of you have ever studied Anthropology huh? I can forgive the future pastor, actually. Devotion to the Christian faith (or any faith for that matter) precludes a dedication to legitimate academia. The word "marriage" and its Hebrew and Arabic variants comprises tyipical Christian, Jewish, and Muslim values concerning sexuality and marriage, obviously. Given the intrinsic link between the English language and Christianity, the perceived concept and definition of "marriage" would appear to be concrete for people who only speak the English language (or Hebrew or Arabic for that matter). The concept predates Judaeo-Christian thoughts/tenets/dogma. Marriage relates to our collective biological predispostion towards semi-monogamy. Like many other primate species, we exhibit a compulsion to pair up, often indefinately. At the same time, we (and Bonobos) tend to experiment prior to pairing, or "marriage." Oftentimes a natural sexual drive occurs, especially during our adolescent years (and this has also been noted in other primate species). This is called HOMOSEXUALITY. One could argue about the different biological and environmental factors that lead a member of our species specifically to practice homosexuality exclusively. While this is rare, if does occur. Given various cultural factors, psychological expectations and the mirror self-image defined by those factors, those who practice Homosexuality exclusively inevitably feel the drive to exist at the same station as everyone else. Regardless of their sexuality, their dreams, hopes, ideas, and expectations are the same as everyone elses. Their sexual preference does not reflect their character, morals, ethics, or values. Furthermore, the concept of marriage, or any other variant of the word is exclusive to our species (that is, we pair for many more reasons than other primate species do). So in a vague sense, your statements were correct, Mindstorm. Like I stated previously, this concept predates monotheism and continues to exist in a different capacity than the one you are familiar with throughout the world. In fact, many sects or tribes in Native American culture recognize transexuals/hermaphrodites as a third gender just as viable for marriage as a female. Likewise, these same tribes accept outright homosexuality. Oftentimes encouraging homosexual boys (and more rarely, homosexual girls) to adopt the company and perspective of the opposite sex. Furthermore, there is information supporting the assumption that early Christians practiced polygamy.
The problem with religion, my friend, is that while other concepts (such as mathematics or political theory) can bar you from objectively considering something for a period of time before one overcomes those prejudices, religion generally influences the individidual to maintain bias and a lack of knowledge throughout their entire lives. Everything you do, say, and think exists to support, validate, or coincide with your faith in a deity and his/her/its omnipotence and omnipresence.
As I earlier stated, homosexuality is in no way immoral, given that it is a natural biological occurence. I watched a Chimp sodomize another Chimp. Were his actions immoral? No, in fact, they both got their rocks off...and I...well..we won't go there. Anyway...:|....While you are certainly entitled to your opinions and ideas, you must come to terms with every passing decade's marginalization of Christianity and its archaic tenets. When a religion no longer reflects the majority, it must adapt as they always have. Thus we are finding many Protestant denominations that are accepting homsexuality at the very least. This trend will only continue, of course. I don't think even you will attempt to argue that assertion.
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