Do u accept g@y marriage?

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#151 yoshi-lnex
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[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]Being a light unto the world is part of my faith afterall... We are supposed to be able to do that. (not point fingers but lead people to holiness in love)mindstorm
Oh no, I'm being persecuted by these sensible gay marraige supporters, waaaaaah!!! *sniffle*

That's not persecution... Christians are dying for their faith in other parts of the world...

Isn't that a bit ironic? Christianity is persecuted in other parts of the world but at the same time persecutes itself?
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]

[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]No I'm against it, Marriage has been a religious union for thousands of years and the gov't wants to feel special and tell us what marriage it. Since Most religions are against Gay marriage it shouldn't be allowed. If you don't have religions you should just be allowed to live together. Why should their be special treatments for married people in the first place?mindstorm

so you believe that heterosexual marriages should not have legal benefits either? If so then fair enough I guess :P

Wait, he said that only religious people deserve to get married? The 'logic' in this thread staggers me.

I see the point in that as a future pastor I will be uniting people in marriage under God. I will refuse to do not only homosexual marriages but also marriages between unbelievers, even if only one of them is not a believer.

do you think athiest heterosexuals should also not be permitted to marry?

They can if they want to but I won't be the one leading their ceremony as I'd have that right...

but if you could vote on it, would you permit it?

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#153 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]

[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]No I'm against it, Marriage has been a religious union for thousands of years and the gov't wants to feel special and tell us what marriage it. Since Most religions are against Gay marriage it shouldn't be allowed. If you don't have religions you should just be allowed to live together. Why should their be special treatments for married people in the first place?yoshi-lnex

so you believe that heterosexual marriages should not have legal benefits either? If so then fair enough I guess :P

Wait, he said that only religious people deserve to get married? The 'logic' in this thread staggers me.

I see the point in that as a future pastor I will be uniting people in marriage under God. I will refuse to do not only homosexual marriages but also marriages between unbelievers, even if only one of them is not a believer.

That's exactly my problem, you think marriages only happen in churches. wtf?

I know they don't but traditionally it is a religious practice...

but not always...

I do realize that actually but generally speaking that was the case...
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#154 deepdreamer256
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One way of loving thy neighbor is leading them down the path of righteousness. Sexual immorality is not a path of righteousness...
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Please stop replacing the word 'christianity' with 'righteousness'. I'm not going to help my neighbor by preaching christianity to him. That will just make him angry. (Although I'm pretty sure he is against gay marraige anyway, he hates everything.)
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#155 Artekus
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I accept it but I dont agree with it.
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#156 yoshi-lnex
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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]Nope. Gays shouldn't have the special right to change the deffinition of a word that was not intended for them to use. Silenthps
1930s silenthps: "Blacks cannot marry whites! They should not have the special right to change the definition that was never intended for that use! Marriage means between a white man and a white woman, or a black man and a black woman!"

Black not being able to marry whites was a law. Not a word.

It already is part of the word by definition, but what does that have to do with anything?
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#157 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"]Jesus Christ was homosexual, but no one knew.mindstorm
Then how do you?

How do you know he wasn't homosexual?
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#158 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]

[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]No I'm against it, Marriage has been a religious union for thousands of years and the gov't wants to feel special and tell us what marriage it. Since Most religions are against Gay marriage it shouldn't be allowed. If you don't have religions you should just be allowed to live together. Why should their be special treatments for married people in the first place?comp_atkins

so you believe that heterosexual marriages should not have legal benefits either? If so then fair enough I guess :P

Wait, he said that only religious people deserve to get married? The 'logic' in this thread staggers me.

I see the point in that as a future pastor I will be uniting people in marriage under God. I will refuse to do not only homosexual marriages but also marriages between unbelievers, even if only one of them is not a believer.

do you think athiest heterosexuals should also not be permitted to marry?

They can if they want to but I won't be the one leading their ceremony as I'd have that right...

but if you could vote on it, would you permit it?

I probably wouldn't but am unsure. It's a hypothetical situation I haven't thought much about.
[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]Being a light unto the world is part of my faith afterall... We are supposed to be able to do that. (not point fingers but lead people to holiness in love)yoshi-lnex
Oh no, I'm being persecuted by these sensible gay marraige supporters, waaaaaah!!! *sniffle*

That's not persecution... Christians are dying for their faith in other parts of the world...

Isn't that a bit ironic? Christianity is persecuted in other parts of the world but at the same time persecutes itself?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by persecuting itself unless you speak of denominations not getting along as they should.
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#159 yoshi-lnex
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[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]Being a light unto the world is part of my faith afterall... We are supposed to be able to do that. (not point fingers but lead people to holiness in love)mindstorm
Oh no, I'm being persecuted by these sensible gay marraige supporters, waaaaaah!!! *sniffle*

That's not persecution... Christians are dying for their faith in other parts of the world...

and Christians have killed gays here in the U.S.
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#160 legend26
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[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]

[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]No I'm against it, Marriage has been a religious union for thousands of years and the gov't wants to feel special and tell us what marriage it. Since Most religions are against Gay marriage it shouldn't be allowed. If you don't have religions you should just be allowed to live together. Why should their be special treatments for married people in the first place?mindstorm

so you believe that heterosexual marriages should not have legal benefits either? If so then fair enough I guess :P

Wait, he said that only religious people deserve to get married? The 'logic' in this thread staggers me.

I see the point in that as a future pastor I will be uniting people in marriage under God. I will refuse to do not only homosexual marriages but also marriages between unbelievers, even if only one of them is not a believer.

what ever happened to love thy nieghboor??

One way of loving thy neighbor is leading them down the path of righteousness. Sexual immorality is not a path of righteousness...

says who? christianity? there are thousands of older religions across the world. so why should christianity (a newbie when it comes to age) be allowed to tell people whats right and wrong?

god wants love in the earth, so i dont think he really cares if its with two guys or girls. its only man who twisted that vision...

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#161 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="zombiefruit"]Jesus Christ was homosexual, but no one knew.deepdreamer256
Then how do you?

How do you know he wasn't homosexual?

As I believe the Bible to be true that would be a complete contradiction of what it says... Not to mention I'd think even secular scholars would think him to be a single heterosexual male due to his loyalty to his cause.
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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]Being a light unto the world is part of my faith afterall... We are supposed to be able to do that. (not point fingers but lead people to holiness in love)mindstorm
Oh no, I'm being persecuted by these sensible gay marraige supporters, waaaaaah!!! *sniffle*

That's not persecution... Christians are dying for their faith in other parts of the world...

Isn't that a bit ironic? Christianity is persecuted in other parts of the world but at the same time persecutes itself?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by persecuting itself unless you speak of denominations not getting along as they should.

descriminating against homosexuals...
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#163 zombiefruit
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[QUOTE="zombiefruit"]Jesus Christ was homosexual, but no one knew.mindstorm
Then how do you?

Because I'm god. But seriously, he could have been.

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#164 ParadiseAwaits
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Does the topic maker not know how to speak English?

What does G@Y mean?

A@

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#165 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]Being a light unto the world is part of my faith afterall... We are supposed to be able to do that. (not point fingers but lead people to holiness in love)yoshi-lnex
Oh no, I'm being persecuted by these sensible gay marraige supporters, waaaaaah!!! *sniffle*

That's not persecution... Christians are dying for their faith in other parts of the world...

and Christians have killed gays here in the U.S.

I'd question whether their faith is true as that isn't what Jesus preached ("He who is without sin cast the first stone").
[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]

[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]No I'm against it, Marriage has been a religious union for thousands of years and the gov't wants to feel special and tell us what marriage it. Since Most religions are against Gay marriage it shouldn't be allowed. If you don't have religions you should just be allowed to live together. Why should their be special treatments for married people in the first place?legend26

so you believe that heterosexual marriages should not have legal benefits either? If so then fair enough I guess :P

Wait, he said that only religious people deserve to get married? The 'logic' in this thread staggers me.

I see the point in that as a future pastor I will be uniting people in marriage under God. I will refuse to do not only homosexual marriages but also marriages between unbelievers, even if only one of them is not a believer.

what ever happened to love thy nieghboor??

One way of loving thy neighbor is leading them down the path of righteousness. Sexual immorality is not a path of righteousness...

says who? christianity? there are thousands of older religions across the world. so why should christianity (a newbie when it comes to age) be allowed to tell people whats right and wrong?

god wants love in the earth, so i dont think he really cares if its with two guys or girls. its only man who twisted that vision...

You used the morality of the Bible as an argument against me and then say it's not right? Make up your mind as to whether or not I should follow what it says....

You have a very poor view of the Bible if you believe that is what God cares about...

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#166 Blood-Scribe
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Does the topic maker not know how to speak English?

ParadiseAwaits

Gay is a censored word when making topic titles.

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#167 ParadiseAwaits
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[QUOTE="ParadiseAwaits"]

Does the topic maker not know how to speak English?

Blood-Scribe

Gay is a censored word when making topic titles.

Why? That word is not offensive.

Main Entry: 1gay Pronunciation: \ˈgā\ Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French gai, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German gāhi quick, sudden Date: 14th century

1 a: happily excited :merry b: keenly alive and exuberant : having or inducing high spirits

Having high spirits on Gamespot is obviously extrememly offensive to moderators. ;)

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#168 CrimzonTide
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Of course, gay people have the same rights to get married as everone else.
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#169 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]Being a light unto the world is part of my faith afterall... We are supposed to be able to do that. (not point fingers but lead people to holiness in love)yoshi-lnex
Oh no, I'm being persecuted by these sensible gay marraige supporters, waaaaaah!!! *sniffle*

That's not persecution... Christians are dying for their faith in other parts of the world...

Isn't that a bit ironic? Christianity is persecuted in other parts of the world but at the same time persecutes itself?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by persecuting itself unless you speak of denominations not getting along as they should.

descriminating against homosexuals...

I question whether a true Christian could be a homosexual... Living a life of sin in a rebelious way doesn't show fruit of being a Christian. I am not saying someone who struggles with homosexuality and wants out of it cannot be a Christian.

I do not think the church handles homosexuals in the way it should however.

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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]Being a light unto the world is part of my faith afterall... We are supposed to be able to do that. (not point fingers but lead people to holiness in love)mindstorm

Oh no, I'm being persecuted by these sensible gay marraige supporters, waaaaaah!!! *sniffle*

That's not persecution... Christians are dying for their faith in other parts of the world...

Isn't that a bit ironic? Christianity is persecuted in other parts of the world but at the same time persecutes itself?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean by persecuting itself unless you speak of denominations not getting along as they should.

descriminating against homosexuals...

I question whether a true Christian could be a homosexual... Living a life of sin in a rebelious way doesn't show fruit of being a Christian. I am not saying someone who struggles with homosexuality and wants out of it cannot be a Christian.

I do not think the church handles homosexuals in the way it should however.

Homosexuality is genetically caused, it's not like they can decide to not be homosexual at their own will.
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You used the morality of the Bible as an argument against me and then say it's not right? Make up your mind as to whether or not I should follow what it says....You have a very poor view of the Bible if you believe that is what God cares about...mindstorm
But it's a logical fallacy. Why would God, who created all of the stars and galaxies in the universe, care about homosexual marraige. That's like saying he wouldn't want two class B stars in a binary system, because they are of the same spectral type (sex.) That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
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Who people want to spend there time with doesnt concern me one bit. I am all for Gay Marriage, Considering that there are far worse things in the world besides same sex marriage.
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Yes, I don't want to take away peoples right.
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#174 Ring_of_fire
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Nope. Gays shouldn't have the special right to change the deffinition of a word that was not intended for them to use. Silenthps

Romer V Evans.

That case was about Colorado's Admendment 2, which basically stated it's perfectly fine for homosexuals to be discriminated against without any possibility of a lawsuit, which was struck down by the supreme court. Justice Kennedy wrote in the majority opinion and this was about "Special rights":

To the contrary, the amendment imposes a special disability upon those persons alone. Homosexuals are forbidden the safeguards that others enjoy or may seek without constraint

This case of gay marriage, It still applies. There is no instance of going after "Special rights" to get married, when straight couples can marry without a lot of problems

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#175 Aquat1cF1sh
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I'm bi, so you take a guess... >_>
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#176 legend26
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"]You used the morality of the Bible as an argument against me and then say it's not right? Make up your mind as to whether or not I should follow what it says....You have a very poor view of the Bible if you believe that is what God cares about...deepdreamer256
But it's a logical fallacy. Why would God, who created all of the stars and galaxies in the universe, care about homosexual marraige. That's like saying he wouldn't want two class B stars in a binary system, because they are of the same spectral type (sex.) That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

^^^this

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#177 YourChaosIsntMe
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[QUOTE="Litchie"]

Haha, what? Seriously? There are actually people saying "no"?. Holy jebus.. Why in the hell wouldn't you accept gay marriage? Isn't it up to the ones getting married if they want to be married or not? I have no interest, whatsoever, in which sex marries which, and it really saddens me that some people do.

FragStains

I think it's funny that while you don't care who marries who...you DO care about why other people do care about who marries who.

...He or she cares because when people do care about who marries who they sound like douchebags.

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#178 ParadiseAwaits
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Marriage was never meant to have anything to do with Government. Marriage is a religous practice.

Why the Government wants to get involved with it is beyond me.

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#179 mindstorm
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Homosexuality is genetically caused, it's not like they can decide to not be homosexual at their own will.yoshi-lnex
I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
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#180 deepdreamer256
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I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
mindstorm
That's because alchoholism is an environmental factor. In the case of genetic gayhood . . . there was one steady mentioned in an issue of New Scientist that talked about how certain parts of the brain in homosexual were very similar that in women and vice-versa, and this was not present in heterosexuals. If that isn't biological, I don't know what is.
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#181 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"] I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
deepdreamer256
That's because alchoholism is an environmental factor. In the case of genetic gayhood . . . there was one steady mentioned in an issue of New Scientist that talked about how certain parts of the brain in homosexual were very similar that in women and vice-versa, and this was not present in heterosexuals. If that isn't biological, I don't know what is.

That doesn't mean they have to enter homosexual relationships and get married however...
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#182 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
mindstorm
That's because alchoholism is an environmental factor. In the case of genetic gayhood . . . there was one steady mentioned in an issue of New Scientist that talked about how certain parts of the brain in homosexual were very similar that in women and vice-versa, and this was not present in heterosexuals. If that isn't biological, I don't know what is.

That doesn't mean they have to enter homosexual relationships and get married however...

So what, you think that they should still follow the path of Christianity and have sex with women, even when they would enjoy doing men far more? That's the second stupidest thing I have ever heard.
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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]Homosexuality is genetically caused, it's not like they can decide to not be homosexual at their own will.mindstorm
I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.

Well, it is, there's plenty of scientific evidence to prove it, and you are stuck being homosexual if you're born that way, just like a black man is stuck being a black man, it's impossible to change his race or sex even if he wants to, and that is why I believe descriminating against homosequals is on the same level as descriminating against sex or race.

Alcoholism on the other hand is not the same thing, if you stop drinking you can end an addiction, you can never stop holding your sexual orientation though.

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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]Nope. Gays shouldn't have the special right to change the deffinition of a word that was not intended for them to use. Ring_of_fire

Romer V Evans.

That case was about Colorado's Admendment 2, which basically stated it's perfectly fine for homosexuals to be discriminated against without any possibility of a lawsuit, which was struck down by the supreme court. Justice Kennedy wrote in the majority opinion and this was about "Special rights":

To the contrary, the amendment imposes a special disability upon those persons alone. Homosexuals are forbidden the safeguards that others enjoy or may seek without constraint

This case of gay marriage, It still applies. There is no instance of going after "Special rights" to get married, when straight couples can marry without a lot of problems

It's not about descrimination. Marriage is between man and woman. Both gays and non gays have that ability. If gays wanna have some kind of union, then call it something else. Don't destroy the meaning of a word that existed for thousands of years just becaue you dont like it. They were not there doing the creation of that word, they have no right to change it.

This is a very bad analogy but idc. How would you like it if everyone changed the deffinition of chicken, to playstation3. I mean, it's kool if you and your friends wanna call it playstation 3 in your own private time. But when you legalize it and make it the official deffinition for the whole society to live by it, then its a diffrent case. People shouldn't have the right to do that.

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NO, i dont like it at all, im not mean to gay people i treat them like any other human being but if they asked me what i thought about gay marriage i would say i dont agree with it.ryangb

Well clearly you don't treat them like every other human being if you don't want them to be able to marry who they want. Why should people like you have the authority to impose your beliefs onto others and restrict their freedoms when it doesn't harm anybody else? Seriously, what's wrong with them getting married if they want? Is it immoral? If so, how? It's a load of homophobic crap if you don't believe they have every right to be equal to everyone else.

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#186 Silenthps
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[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]You used the morality of the Bible as an argument against me and then say it's not right? Make up your mind as to whether or not I should follow what it says....You have a very poor view of the Bible if you believe that is what God cares about...legend26

But it's a logical fallacy. Why would God, who created all of the stars and galaxies in the universe, care about homosexual marraige. That's like saying he wouldn't want two class B stars in a binary system, because they are of the same spectral type (sex.) That's the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

^^^this

God has to look at every single thing that goes on in this universe. Maybe gay people having sex just grosses him out?
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#187 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
deepdreamer256
That's because alchoholism is an environmental factor. In the case of genetic gayhood . . . there was one steady mentioned in an issue of New Scientist that talked about how certain parts of the brain in homosexual were very similar that in women and vice-versa, and this was not present in heterosexuals. If that isn't biological, I don't know what is.

That doesn't mean they have to enter homosexual relationships and get married however...

So what, you think that they should still follow the path of Christianity and have sex with women, even when they would enjoy doing men far more? That's the second stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Why do they have to enter into relationships at all?
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#188 Aquat1cF1sh
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[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
mindstorm
That's because alchoholism is an environmental factor. In the case of genetic gayhood . . . there was one steady mentioned in an issue of New Scientist that talked about how certain parts of the brain in homosexual were very similar that in women and vice-versa, and this was not present in heterosexuals. If that isn't biological, I don't know what is.

That doesn't mean they have to enter homosexual relationships and get married however...

So what, you think that they should still follow the path of Christianity and have sex with women, even when they would enjoy doing men far more? That's the second stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Why do they have to enter into relationships at all?

Why do straight people have to enter into relationships at all? >_>

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#189 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]Nope. Gays shouldn't have the special right to change the deffinition of a word that was not intended for them to use. Silenthps

Romer V Evans.

That case was about Colorado's Admendment 2, which basically stated it's perfectly fine for homosexuals to be discriminated against without any possibility of a lawsuit, which was struck down by the supreme court. Justice Kennedy wrote in the majority opinion and this was about "Special rights":

To the contrary, the amendment imposes a special disability upon those persons alone. Homosexuals are forbidden the safeguards that others enjoy or may seek without constraint

This case of gay marriage, It still applies. There is no instance of going after "Special rights" to get married, when straight couples can marry without a lot of problems

It's not about descrimination. Marriage is between man and woman. Both gays and non gays have that ability. If gays wanna have some kind of union, then call it something else. Don't destroy the meaning of a word that existed for thousands of years just becaue you dont like it. They were not there doing the creation of that word, they have no right to change it.

This is a very bad analogy but idc. How would you like it if everyone changed the deffinition of chicken, to playstation3. I mean, it's kool if you and your friends wanna call it playstation 3 in your own private time. But when you legalize it and make it the official deffinition for the whole society to live by it, then its a diffrent case. People shouldn't have the right to do that.

Face it, words are changing all the time. ****, which was supposed to mean sex, is now used in a variety of derogatory and gramatically ambiguous phrases. The difference between this and PS3s is that we are adjusting the meaning of a word, not the actual word. Also, changing the meaning of marraige isn't nearly as ridiculous as calling a PS3 a chicken. Just like that, creating a knew term for homosexual marraige would just be silly.
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#190 BlackAlpha666
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[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
mindstorm
That's because alchoholism is an environmental factor. In the case of genetic gayhood . . . there was one steady mentioned in an issue of New Scientist that talked about how certain parts of the brain in homosexual were very similar that in women and vice-versa, and this was not present in heterosexuals. If that isn't biological, I don't know what is.

That doesn't mean they have to enter homosexual relationships and get married however...

So what, you think that they should still follow the path of Christianity and have sex with women, even when they would enjoy doing men far more? That's the second stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Why do they have to enter into relationships at all?

Why do you have to enter into a relationship at all?

Think before you post...

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#191 DabsTight703
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I believe ALL people have the right to the pursuit of happiness.
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#192 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
Aquat1cF1sh

That's because alchoholism is an environmental factor. In the case of genetic gayhood . . . there was one steady mentioned in an issue of New Scientist that talked about how certain parts of the brain in homosexual were very similar that in women and vice-versa, and this was not present in heterosexuals. If that isn't biological, I don't know what is.

That doesn't mean they have to enter homosexual relationships and get married however...

So what, you think that they should still follow the path of Christianity and have sex with women, even when they would enjoy doing men far more? That's the second stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Why do they have to enter into relationships at all?

Why do straight people have to enter into relationships at all? >_>

No they do not.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
BlackAlpha666

That's because alchoholism is an environmental factor. In the case of genetic gayhood . . . there was one steady mentioned in an issue of New Scientist that talked about how certain parts of the brain in homosexual were very similar that in women and vice-versa, and this was not present in heterosexuals. If that isn't biological, I don't know what is.

That doesn't mean they have to enter homosexual relationships and get married however...

So what, you think that they should still follow the path of Christianity and have sex with women, even when they would enjoy doing men far more? That's the second stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Why do they have to enter into relationships at all?

Why do you have to enter into a relationship at all?

Think before you post...

Partly for procreation.... which homosexuals cannot do...
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#193 CVM_123
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[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
mindstorm
That's because alchoholism is an environmental factor. In the case of genetic gayhood . . . there was one steady mentioned in an issue of New Scientist that talked about how certain parts of the brain in homosexual were very similar that in women and vice-versa, and this was not present in heterosexuals. If that isn't biological, I don't know what is.

That doesn't mean they have to enter homosexual relationships and get married however...

So what, you think that they should still follow the path of Christianity and have sex with women, even when they would enjoy doing men far more? That's the second stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Why do they have to enter into relationships at all?

they will still enter into relationships homever
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#194 deepdreamer256
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[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
mindstorm
That's because alchoholism is an environmental factor. In the case of genetic gayhood . . . there was one steady mentioned in an issue of New Scientist that talked about how certain parts of the brain in homosexual were very similar that in women and vice-versa, and this was not present in heterosexuals. If that isn't biological, I don't know what is.

That doesn't mean they have to enter homosexual relationships and get married however...

So what, you think that they should still follow the path of Christianity and have sex with women, even when they would enjoy doing men far more? That's the second stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Why do they have to enter into relationships at all?

So basically, your moral argument is that homosexuals should be denied the right to love, even though they were born into it? In my mind, that seems immoral regardless of the circumstances. (And yes, that is the third stupidest thing I have ever heard.)
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#195 yoshi-lnex
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[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
mindstorm
That's because alchoholism is an environmental factor. In the case of genetic gayhood . . . there was one steady mentioned in an issue of New Scientist that talked about how certain parts of the brain in homosexual were very similar that in women and vice-versa, and this was not present in heterosexuals. If that isn't biological, I don't know what is.

That doesn't mean they have to enter homosexual relationships and get married however...

Well....it sort of does, they're attracted to the same sex just like we're attracted to the opposite sex, now, having to date, marry and have intercourse with a member of the same sex doesn't sound to fun eh? It's just the reverse with them.
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#196 deepdreamer256
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Partly for procreation.... which homosexuals cannot do...
mindstorm
Your point being? Marriage isn't all about procreation.
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#197 ELJUDEZ
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Yes.
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#198 deepdreamer256
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No they do not.mindstorm
But we want to, that's the key thing.
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#199 mindstorm
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[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
deepdreamer256
That's because alchoholism is an environmental factor. In the case of genetic gayhood . . . there was one steady mentioned in an issue of New Scientist that talked about how certain parts of the brain in homosexual were very similar that in women and vice-versa, and this was not present in heterosexuals. If that isn't biological, I don't know what is.

That doesn't mean they have to enter homosexual relationships and get married however...

So what, you think that they should still follow the path of Christianity and have sex with women, even when they would enjoy doing men far more? That's the second stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Why do they have to enter into relationships at all?

So basically, your moral argument is that homosexuals should be denied the right to love, even though they were born into it? In my mind, that seems immoral regardless of the circumstances. (And yes, that is the third stupidest thing I have ever heard.)

Each of the 'stupidist things you've ever heard' are assumptions you make that I do not always agree with...
[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] I doubt that to be true... And even if it might be, that doesn't mean you have to follow through with it. Alcoholism runs in my family... that doesn't mean I have to become an alcoholic however.
yoshi-lnex
That's because alchoholism is an environmental factor. In the case of genetic gayhood . . . there was one steady mentioned in an issue of New Scientist that talked about how certain parts of the brain in homosexual were very similar that in women and vice-versa, and this was not present in heterosexuals. If that isn't biological, I don't know what is.

That doesn't mean they have to enter homosexual relationships and get married however...

Well....it sort of does, they're attracted to the same sex just like we're attracted to the opposite sex, now, having to date, marry and have intercourse with a member of the same sex doesn't sound to fun eh? It's just the reverse with them.

The logic of that is beyond me... as I think so differently.
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#200 yoshi-lnex
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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"]

[QUOTE="Silenthps"]Nope. Gays shouldn't have the special right to change the deffinition of a word that was not intended for them to use. Silenthps

Romer V Evans.

That case was about Colorado's Admendment 2, which basically stated it's perfectly fine for homosexuals to be discriminated against without any possibility of a lawsuit, which was struck down by the supreme court. Justice Kennedy wrote in the majority opinion and this was about "Special rights":

To the contrary, the amendment imposes a special disability upon those persons alone. Homosexuals are forbidden the safeguards that others enjoy or may seek without constraint

This case of gay marriage, It still applies. There is no instance of going after "Special rights" to get married, when straight couples can marry without a lot of problems

It's not about descrimination. Marriage is between man and woman. Both gays and non gays have that ability. If gays wanna have some kind of union, then call it something else. Don't destroy the meaning of a word that existed for thousands of years just becaue you dont like it. They were not there doing the creation of that word, they have no right to change it.

This is a very bad analogy but idc. How would you like it if everyone changed the deffinition of chicken, to playstation3. I mean, it's kool if you and your friends wanna call it playstation 3 in your own private time. But when you legalize it and make it the official deffinition for the whole society to live by it, then its a diffrent case. People shouldn't have the right to do that.

The definition already has changed, just lookat a dictionary.

Gays do have the right to marry in certain states and coutries, but saying gays have the right to marry a member of the opposite sex really isn't any different than saying "If a person of a certain race wants to marry, they can." back before interacial marriage was legal.