Bill Nye to debate some Creationism dude live tonight

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#51 SaintLeonidas
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@Storm_Marine said:

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"God invented marriage"...Bill, please, just punch this fucker on the temple.

I haven't been watching it, but I assume the debate is wildly off topic?

Ken Ham basically just using a moment when claiming the bible is truth to remind us all that that truth means "GAYS ARE EVIL!"

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#52  Edited By platinumking320
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Ham is already commiting ad ignorantiam. can't do that when arguing for the case of God. Anyone can dismiss that easily.

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@dave123321 said:

**** **** **** this ducking bullshit ****

Ken Ham, Rustler of Jimmies.

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#54 foxhound_fox
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I dislike the idea of giving Creationism a platform to espouse it's lies within the realm of a formal debate. Unless of course Nye has some dirty tricks planned to make Ham look like a fool.

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#55 SaintLeonidas
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Ugh. Bill isn't doing to well either.

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#56 dave123321
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The Seahawks win was pretty gratifying

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#57 dave123321
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Bills seems to be having an off night

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#58 lostrib
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Wow tough crowd

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#59 ferrari2001
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Wow tough crowd

They are at the creationism museum. I'd be very surprised if Ken didn't fill the room with supporters.

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#60 dave123321
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What are you talking about bill for fucks sake

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#61 JML897
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I'm not watching this but it sounds like it's just as pointless as an internet religion debate

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#62  Edited By lostrib
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What are you talking about bill for fucks sake

I think he's taking Ken Ham's points/beliefs and then showing how they can't be true. Rather than just giving a full presentation on evolution. Although it sounds like he is having a hard time taking some things seriously

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#63  Edited By lostrib
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I'm not watching this but it sounds like it's just as pointless as an internet religion debate

yes, in the end I doubt he will convince Ken Ham or any of the people at the creation museum

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#65 The-Apostle
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Nye is hogging the debate right now... :(

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#66  Edited By lostrib
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It seems like Bill Nye is having a hard time not breaking out in laughter

...and he might do a bit better if he didn't so obviously say that all the people there and the surrounding areas are a bunch of fucking idiots

at least people are clapping

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#67 dave123321
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You should come to texas, apostle

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#68 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Literally turned it off and fell asleep for a little bit lol looks like it's not as interesting as I imagined :(

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#69 SaintLeonidas
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@The-Apostle said:

Nye is hogging the debate right now... :(

Huh? They both got 30 minutes to talk. Ken Ham already did his long bit.

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#70 dave123321
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Thanks for the overhype tc

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#71  Edited By dave123321
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I like that ken is actually addressing stuff now instead of saying you can't do that and leaving it at that

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#72 lostrib
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...holy shit, is that guy serious?

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#73 The-Apostle
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@SaintLeonidas said:

@The-Apostle said:

Nye is hogging the debate right now... :(

Huh? They both got 30 minutes to talk. Ken Ham already did his long bit.

Too bad I missed his then. >_>

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#74 dave123321
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Why is he pointing out inconsistencies in the bible as word and the evidence science gives

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#75 ssvegeta555
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Wait, did this Ken guy in his counter argument discount evidence because God said otherwise???

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#76  Edited By dave123321
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@ssvegeta555: it seems so

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#77  Edited By The-Apostle
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Yeah, I can see all living things being vegetarians before the fall but not the flood.

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#78 lostrib
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@ssvegeta555 said:

Wait, did this Ken guy in his counter argument discount evidence because God said otherwise???

uh pretty much

It seems like Bill Nye is almost personally offended by the things Ken Ham says. And is having hard time not saying it's just a load of bullshit

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@dave123321 said:

Why is he pointing out inconsistencies in the bible as word and the evidence science gives

Because he is a Creationist or he's trolling

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#80 Serraph105
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I honestly considered taking a day off work and driving down to view this debate in person.

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#81 dave123321
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It just seemed like he had a moment where he just refuted his own points

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#82 foxhound_fox
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Ham's complete misunderstanding of the science of tectonics is even more laughable than his lack of understanding of evolution.

Shit doesn't move on the surface of the Earth? Then what the **** causes earthquakes? Jesus bowling?

Trees under basalt? EVOLUTION ISN'T TRUE!

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#83 Serraph105
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@dave123321 said:

It just seemed like he had a moment where he just refuted his own points

I'm only at the 30 minute mark where are you and who's talking?

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#84  Edited By dave123321
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It's part of Ken's rebuttal after Nye speaks for his 30 mins

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#85 SaintLeonidas
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"Our research." How cute.

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#86  Edited By foxhound_fox
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The biggest copout argument ever:

"You weren't there to witness it happen, so it cannot be true".

I didn't see you born Ken, so how are you here? How about that Holocaust? We weren't there to see it happen, so it must not have happened.

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#87 dave123321
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The whole Noah and his boat thing seems like such a weak point

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#88 The-Apostle
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@foxhound_fox said:

The biggest copout argument ever:

"You weren't there to witness it happen, so it cannot be true".

I didn't see you born Ken, so how are you here? How about that Holocaust? We weren't there to see it happen, so it must not have happened.

Yeah, that statement just sucked...

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@foxhound_fox said:

The biggest copout argument ever:

"You weren't there to witness it happen, so it cannot be true".

I didn't see you born Ken, so how are you here? How about that Holocaust? We weren't there to see it happen, so it must not have happened.

His entire argument seems to be "well none of us were there so my point is just as valid!"

even though he lacks any real evidence, and when he faces evidence that disproves his model all he can say is "you weren't there, maybe things were different"

As a scientist this frustrates me to all hell (seems like it frustrates bill nye as well).

Doubt I can watch much more of this

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#90 The-Apostle
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I can't watch much more either. Nye clearly won the debate. :(

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@The-Apostle said:

I can't watch much more either. Nye clearly won the debate. :(

Honestly, what did you expect

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#92 chessmaster1989
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Why are you people even watching this?

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#93 The-Apostle
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@lostrib said:

@The-Apostle said:

I can't watch much more either. Nye clearly won the debate. :(

Honestly, what did you expect

I thought Ham would make less statements that would make me sick.

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#94 dave123321
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@chessmaster1989: it's a Tuesday night

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#95  Edited By lostrib
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@chessmaster1989 said:

Why are you people even watching this?

entertainment purposes

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#96 ferrari2001
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Why the hell does he keep saying we can't investigate the past using observational science. Doesn't things that happen in the past leave traces of themselves that can be observed and studied? God Ken is a freaking moron.

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@The-Apostle said:
@lostrib said:

@The-Apostle said:

I can't watch much more either. Nye clearly won the debate. :(

Honestly, what did you expect

I thought Ham would make less statements that would make me sick.

Whenever he talks, it makes my head hurt, along with a burning hot rage

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Why the hell does he keep saying we can't investigate the past using observational science. Doesn't things that happen in the past leave traces of themselves that can be observed and studied? God Ken is a freaking moron.

Yeah, but you weren't there. Maybe the laws of nature were different back then

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#99  Edited By The-Apostle
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@ferrari2001 said:

Why the hell does he keep saying we can't investigate the past using observational science. Doesn't things that happen in the past leave traces of themselves that can be observed and studied? God Ken is a freaking moron.

I'm not sure. He needs to come up with something better because it clearly isn't working.

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#100  Edited By dave123321
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Yeah the constant you can't observe the past stuff is annoying