13 Yr. old girl sentenced to 90 lashes for cell phone.

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#1 ScreamDream
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Saudi girl, 13, sentenced to 90 lashes after she took a mobile phone to school. The article doesn't say why it's against the law so I just have to guess that the Saudi's don't want any pictures taken in their girls schools. Also what confuses me is how did they find this on her after she made an assault.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1244689/Saudi-girl-13--sentenced-90-lashes-took-mobile-phone-school.html

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#2 spazzx625
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Any source other than Daily Mail reporting this story?
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Saudi girl, 13, sentenced to 90 lashes after she took a mobile phone to school. The article doesn't say why it's against the law so I just have to guess that the Saudi's don't want any pictures taken in their girls schools. Also what confuses me is how did they find this on her after she made an assault.

ScreamDream

"A court ordered the girl to be flogged in front of her ****ates following an assault on the school principal, according to the Saudi daily newspaper Al-Watan.

After the assault she was discovered to have concealed a mobile phone"

Sounds like she was beaten for assaulting the principal, not bringing a phone to school.

Am I reading this wrong?

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#4 ScreamDream
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Any source other than Daily Mail reporting this story?spazzx625

Here's one. I can probably find more.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433186/posts

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#5 FragStains
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Man, you have no idea how much I wish that would happen here...well, maybe just 10 lashes.
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#6 spazzx625
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[QUOTE="spazzx625"]Any source other than Daily Mail reporting this story?ScreamDream

Here's one. I can probably find more.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433186/posts

Nah, not necessary...I just don't believe anything Daily Mail writes...They are sensationalists.

EDIT: Actually...That article cites the Daily Mail article as the only source...So...Yeah...Still not totally believing this story...

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#7 ScreamDream
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Fox news.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583440,00.html

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#8 EMOEVOLUTION
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Sounds fair to me. AS far as I'm concerned cellphones should be out lawed.
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#9 spazzx625
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Fox news.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583440,00.html

ScreamDream
They cite Daily Mail too...What the hell. Nevermind, it's not worth you searching.
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[QUOTE="ScreamDream"]

Fox news.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583440,00.html

spazzx625

They cite Daily Mail too...What the hell. Nevermind, it's not worth you searching.

Fox is reporting it though.

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#11 Big_Bad_Sad
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If its the Daily Mail I doubt it is true. She may have gotten in to trouble for having the phone but I wouldnt be surprised the the Mail have made up the lashing part.
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#12 moonlightcharm6
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man that's harsh. over a cell phoned i hope she lives through it and prison:shock:
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[QUOTE="ScreamDream"]

Saudi girl, 13, sentenced to 90 lashes after she took a mobile phone to school. The article doesn't say why it's against the law so I just have to guess that the Saudi's don't want any pictures taken in their girls schools. Also what confuses me is how did they find this on her after she made an assault.

Atmanix

"A court ordered the girl to be flogged in front of her ****ates following an assault on the school principal, according to the Saudi daily newspaper Al-Watan.

After the assault she was discovered to have concealed a mobile phone"

Sounds like she was beaten for assaulting the principal, not bringing a phone to school.

Am I reading this wrong?

Sounds like you read it correct. She was searched. I wonder what their procedure is for searching 13 year old girls.

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Man, you have no idea how much I wish that would happen here...well, maybe just 10 lashes.FragStains

woot! we agree on something

I still think teachers should be able to smash student's cell phones

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90 lashes is alittle over the top i think. but im 100% with discipline.
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#17 mo0ksi
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I understand if you broke the rules you should be punished. But you shouldn't receive 90 lashes for something like this.
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#18 ghoklebutter
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Yet another totally Islamic law in Saudi Arabia. :roll:
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We always have to watch out for conservatives.
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#21 xTheExploited
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If its is in true then I'm not surprised. Even in US and UK schools phones arn't exactly allowed, normally. You can't have them out during school hours but you can bring them. I guess its similar but the punishments in Islamic countries, especially Saudi Arabia are more severe so its nothing out of the ordinary, for them at least.
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90 lashes is alittle over the top i think. but im 100% with discipline. GazaAli
With beatings?
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#23 grape_of_wrath
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90 lashes? today's kids are being spoiled!...:x
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#24 MgamerBD
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Meh...its their country....they should know the consquences who are we to judge.
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#25 Mochyc
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Meh...its their country....they should know the consquences who are we to judge.MgamerBD
Why shouldn't we judge? You could say 'I don't care', but in no way can you justify this. It's a 13 year old girl, I don't think she possesses a strong judgement at her age.
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[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Meh...its their country....they should know the consquences who are we to judge.Mochyc
Why shouldn't we judge? You could say 'I don't care', but in no way can you justify this. It's a 13 year old girl, I don't think she possesses a strong judgement at her age.

From our perspective there is no way you can justify this but in Saudi Arabia it is not a weird thing that people are going to go and freak out about.
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]90 lashes is alittle over the top i think. but im 100% with discipline. Mochyc
With beatings?

of course not, unless 100% necessary and unavoidable. i swear they are people that just dont get it, no matter how much you tell them nicely and calmly, they just dont get it. but when you start talking actions, they will worship you.
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[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Meh...its their country....they should know the consquences who are we to judge.Mochyc
Why shouldn't we judge? You could say 'I don't care', but in no way can you justify this. It's a 13 year old girl, I don't think she possesses a strong judgement at her age.

I'm not her....but if I could get my hands cut off from stealing something, or stoned to death on a whim in a country. My brain might say "hey maybe I should get into less trouble as possible and listen to the rules". To me its common sense when you live in such a country and I read that she also assulted the principal.
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[QUOTE="Mochyc"][QUOTE="GazaAli"]90 lashes is alittle over the top i think. but im 100% with discipline. GazaAli
With beatings?

of course not, unless 100% necessary and unavoidable. i swear they are people that just dont get it, no matter how much you tell them nicely and calmly, they just dont get it. but when you start talking actions, they will worship you.

You know ,you could kick a kid out of class or even ban him from school. those are actions, and have far more positive impact than a beating.
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Fox News and The Daily Fail? No thanks
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[QUOTE="Mochyc"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Meh...its their country....they should know the consquences who are we to judge.MgamerBD
Why shouldn't we judge? You could say 'I don't care', but in no way can you justify this. It's a 13 year old girl, I don't think she possesses a strong judgement at her age.

I'm not her....but if I could get my hands cut off from stealing something, or stoned to death on a whim in a country. My brain might say "hey maybe I should get into less trouble as possible and listen to the rules". To me its common sense when you live in such a country and I read that she also assulted the principal.

Of course, she was an absolute idiot to assault the principal. It doesn't change the fact that this is unjust. She's 13 and can't even take care of herself, and shouldn't be expected to be the brightest crayon in the box. You can't honestly say that giving the principal a bruise deserves 90 lashes, can you?
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="Mochyc"] With beatings?grape_of_wrath
of course not, unless 100% necessary and unavoidable. i swear they are people that just dont get it, no matter how much you tell them nicely and calmly, they just dont get it. but when you start talking actions, they will worship you.

You know ,you could kick a kid out of class or even ban him from school. those are actions, and have far more positive impact than a beating.

yea it is. but i mean in general, its not always a bad idea. i mean when someone steal the hard work of others, prison does not really cut it for me, and other burglars wont feel much fear. but when it involves something like cutting your hand, it impose a much restricting judgment. i know alot of people wont agree with me, not even in a million year, but this is how i see it.
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It's hard to believe we're in the year 2010 when barbaric things like this still happens.

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[QUOTE="Mochyc"] Of course, she was an absolute idiot to assault the principal. It doesn't change the fact that this is unjust. She's 13 and can't even take care of herself, and shouldn't be expected to be the brightest crayon in the box. You can't honestly say that giving the principal a bruise deserves 90 lashes, can you?

Why not? People have gotten more lashes, and sometimes death, for far less serious things.
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[QUOTE="Mochyc"] Of course, she was an absolute idiot to assault the principal. It doesn't change the fact that this is unjust. She's 13 and can't even take care of herself, and shouldn't be expected to be the brightest crayon in the box. You can't honestly say that giving the principal a bruise deserves 90 lashes, can you?Famiking
Why not? People have gotten more lashes, and sometimes death, for far less serious things.

that doesn't make it right.

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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="Mochyc"] Of course, she was an absolute idiot to assault the principal. It doesn't change the fact that this is unjust. She's 13 and can't even take care of herself, and shouldn't be expected to be the brightest crayon in the box. You can't honestly say that giving the principal a bruise deserves 90 lashes, can you?z4twenny

Why not? People have gotten more lashes, and sometimes death, for far less serious things.

that doesn't make it right.

Exactly, two wrongs don't make a right. I don't see how it justifies what happened.

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Also, I find it interesting that they're actually punishing children. :|
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#40 Chrypt22
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Annnddd we wonder why the Muslim world lives the way they do. But shame on us for water boarding right? I can just see the Amnest International f*** somehow spinning this into the US's fault.

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#41 Dark__Link
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What is the last line in that article doing there? :?
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#42 Famiking
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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="Mochyc"] Of course, she was an absolute idiot to assault the principal. It doesn't change the fact that this is unjust. She's 13 and can't even take care of herself, and shouldn't be expected to be the brightest crayon in the box. You can't honestly say that giving the principal a bruise deserves 90 lashes, can you?z4twenny

Why not? People have gotten more lashes, and sometimes death, for far less serious things.

that doesn't make it right.

Then what would you say is "right"?

Also keep in mind which country has one of the lowest (juvenile) crime rates in the world

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:lol: I love the way at the very end they put in that quick jab about terrorists. Ah Daily Mail will you ever cease being so pathetically sensationalist.

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"Lashes"? I thought it was 2010, not 1010.
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#46 Nkemjo
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Annnddd we wonder why the Muslim world lives the way they do. But shame on us for water boarding right? I can just see the Amnest International f*** somehow spinning this into the US's fault.

Chrypt22

Ok so let me get this straight.. You giving out to them for doing something like this, then you say why should we get given out to when we torture people. Hmm pick a side, don't pick and choose. It's either wrong to torture or all right. (Psst torture is wrong and shouldn't be used, in fact you are more likely to get false information)

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#47 nintendo-4life
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i'm having a hard time believing this story. Having mobiles in schools is NOT against the law.
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#48 Nkemjo
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What is the last line in that article doing there? :?Dark__Link

That's what I was thinking, I don't know how anyone could take this article seriously with that there. Such an underhanded slight.

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And I lived in that country for six dreadful years. :|

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[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="ScreamDream"]

Fox news.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583440,00.html

ScreamDream

They cite Daily Mail too...What the hell. Nevermind, it's not worth you searching.

Fox is reporting it though.

no one trusts Fox lol