Wii finally have a storage solution!!

hey that's fine with me...we can also abuse this...now we can finally transfer VC games from one wii to the next, so friends can buy one game each (make some kind of deal) and then trade off well, that's what i got out of it but yea...this isn't too bad of a solution...i like it, plus u can get wii SD cards at walmart for like $20 for the 2GB version....2GB should be plenty of storagefiercedeity901

Exactly what is so good about this solution? We've been able to save games to SD cards ever since the Wii was released. :|helium_flash

I'm happy with this announcement, despite the fact that there should have never been an issue to begin with - good storage space is expected behavior.Ovirew

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]

[QUOTE="webbut"]nintendo is going to loose a lot of money from VC gameswebbut

No they're not.

They still won't let you share them.

no from hackers

You can already pirate games on the Wii.

If direct download to the SD card means direct accesss like a memory card, then yes I'm very satisfied.

You know...

All that has been said is you can download games straight to the SD card. I hope this also means you can play them FROM the SD card, but that hasn't been explicitly stated, from what I have seen.

Mike1978Smith

yes it has.
Read the article here on gamespot about DSi in 2009
It explicitly states it

From what IGN reported the storage solution with be on all future released games. That would leave a lot of games that won't take advantage of it if that is the case. Hopefully they can rush this out before the spring.

As far as the USB ports, I always thought it would be an external hard drive with a firmware update via Wiishop. As it stands now I use one port for my remote charger and the other is for my MP3 player to charge.

Sabin55

Does that mean that even in '09 you won't be able to use the new storage feature for games that are out right now?
Meaning, if I want the new Strong Bad game, but I don't have room
Even once Spring '09 rolls around I won't be able to save and play from an SD card?
If so I will be very upset.

[QUOTE="Mike1978Smith"]

You know...

All that has been said is you can download games straight to the SD card. I hope this also means you can play them FROM the SD card, but that hasn't been explicitly stated, from what I have seen.

guitarist4292

yes it has.
Read the article here on gamespot about DSi in 2009
It explicitly states it

Where?

You cannot play games from the SD card. A number of sites have had to issue corrections to their initial reports because they assumed that and it was later confirmed to be incorrect. And on the most recent episode of 1UP Yours podcast, they explain that you can't play games off the SD card.

[QUOTE="guitarist4292"][QUOTE="Mike1978Smith"]

You know...

All that has been said is you can download games straight to the SD card. I hope this also means you can play them FROM the SD card, but that hasn't been explicitly stated, from what I have seen.

clicketyclick

yes it has.
Read the article here on gamespot about DSi in 2009
It explicitly states it

Where?

You cannot play games from the SD card. A number of sites have had to issue corrections to their initial reports because they assumed that and it was later confirmed to be incorrect. And on the most recent episode of 1UP Yours podcast, they explain that you can't play games off the SD card.

This is from the Gamespot article and, by the way, is a direct quote from reggie I believe.

[9:23] "Iwata is addressing the problem of Wii storage," he says. "Soon you will be able to download and store virtual console and WiiWare titles directly on your SD card, and play them off your SD card. This will make the Wii download experience much easier."

Wouldn't be much of a solution if you couldn't

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="guitarist4292"][QUOTE="Mike1978Smith"]

You know...

All that has been said is you can download games straight to the SD card. I hope this also means you can play them FROM the SD card, but that hasn't been explicitly stated, from what I have seen.

guitarist4292

yes it has.
Read the article here on gamespot about DSi in 2009
It explicitly states it

Where?

You cannot play games from the SD card. A number of sites have had to issue corrections to their initial reports because they assumed that and it was later confirmed to be incorrect. And on the most recent episode of 1UP Yours podcast, they explain that you can't play games off the SD card.

This is from the Gamespot article and, by the way, is a direct quote from reggie I believe.

[9:23] "Iwata is addressing the problem of Wii storage," he says. "Soon you will be able to download and store virtual console and WiiWare titles directly on your SD card, and play them off your SD card. This will make the Wii download experience much easier."

Wouldn't be much of a solution if you couldn't

I want a link to the gamespot article. When I search that quote in google, all I come up with is this article, which says at the bottom: "We originally said games would be playable directly off of SD cards. Sadly, this is not true - Our apologies!"

[QUOTE="guitarist4292"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="guitarist4292"][QUOTE="Mike1978Smith"]

You know...

All that has been said is you can download games straight to the SD card. I hope this also means you can play them FROM the SD card, but that hasn't been explicitly stated, from what I have seen.

clicketyclick

yes it has.
Read the article here on gamespot about DSi in 2009
It explicitly states it

Where?

You cannot play games from the SD card. A number of sites have had to issue corrections to their initial reports because they assumed that and it was later confirmed to be incorrect. And on the most recent episode of 1UP Yours podcast, they explain that you can't play games off the SD card.

This is from the Gamespot article and, by the way, is a direct quote from reggie I believe.

[9:23] "Iwata is addressing the problem of Wii storage," he says. "Soon you will be able to download and store virtual console and WiiWare titles directly on your SD card, and play them off your SD card. This will make the Wii download experience much easier."

Wouldn't be much of a solution if you couldn't

I want a link to the gamespot article. When I search that quote in google, all I come up with is this article, which says at the bottom: "We originally said games would be playable directly off of SD cards. Sadly, this is not true - Our apologies!"

LINK!

There. It's in the gamespot article, like I origianally said.
And it was a quote from Reggie
It's right above the picture of Punch-Out!

LINK!

There. It's in the gamespot article, like I origianally said.
It's right above the picture of Punch-Out!

guitarist4292

Then this is yet another case of Reggie being out of the loop about what Nintendo Japan is doing. It's not like he's never given us incorrect information before about what Nintendo is planning. Nintendo has never said anything about playing off SD cards. They have said that you will be able to download to the SD cards. As I noted above with the link, sites have had to issue corrections to their initial claims you could execute games off the SD card.

And listen to 1UP Yours podcast starting at about 1:18:30. They explain that you cannot execute games off the SD cards. The solution is just meant to save you from having to download to your Wii and then transfer to SD card. Now you can download directly to your SD card when you run out of space on your Wii.

[QUOTE="guitarist4292"]

LINK!

There. It's in the gamespot article, like I origianally said.
It's right above the picture of Punch-Out!

clicketyclick

Then this is yet another case of Reggie being out of the loop about what Nintendo Japan is doing. It's not like he's never given us incorrect information before about what Nintendo is planning. Nintendo has never said anything about playing off SD cards. They have said that you will be able to download to the SD cards. As I noted above with the link, sites have had to issue corrections to their initial claims you could execute games off the SD card.

And listen to 1UP Yours podcast starting at about 1:18:30. They explain that you cannot execute games off the SD cards. The solution is just meant to save you from having to download to your Wii and then transfer to SD card. Now you can download directly to your SD card when you run out of space on your Wii.

If you're right
Then that is beyond lame.

If you're right
Then that is beyond lame.

guitarist4292

I am right. Here's the word from the President of Nintendo himself, Mr. Iwata:

We are facing the challenge to comply with users who are demanding more data storage capacity beyond the existing internal memory.

Recently, SD memory cards have become inexpensive. However, how SD memory cards can be used when there is not enough room in Wii's internal memory is not convenient.

We have been listening to the customers, and we have been trying to come up with the solution that will not sacrifice the security nature of Wii but will cater to our customers' convenience. We will need more time to tackle it. But the basic direction has been decided, so I would like to update you on this today.

We will make it so that, when there is not enough room on the Wii's internal memory, you will be able to purchase and download Virtual Console and WiiWare software directly from the Shopping Channel to an SD memory card. [COLOR=Orange]We will also make it so that you will need to go through just one process in order to transfer Virtual Console or WiiWare software stored on an SD card to the Wii console and then be able to play it.[/COLOR] We would like to deal with this issue utilizing two methods. Since the updates to realize these new structures will require significant revisions to the Wii system, and these changes need to be made by taking care of a variety of different angles, this method will become effective beginning next spring. For some of you, this may be considered late. But please know that we really appreciate your cooperation and understanding. We are working hard so we can begin the service as soon as possible. (Official Nintendo Source)

Satoru Iwata

What do you trust more: What Reggie says Iwata is doing, or what Iwata says he's doing?

[QUOTE="guitarist4292"]

If you're right
Then that is beyond lame.

clicketyclick

I am right. Here's the word from the President of Nintendo himself, Mr. Iwata:

We are facing the challenge to comply with users who are demanding more data storage capacity beyond the existing internal memory.

Recently, SD memory cards have become inexpensive. However, how SD memory cards can be used when there is not enough room in Wii's internal memory is not convenient.

We have been listening to the customers, and we have been trying to come up with the solution that will not sacrifice the security nature of Wii but will cater to our customers' convenience. We will need more time to tackle it. But the basic direction has been decided, so I would like to update you on this today.

We will make it so that, when there is not enough room on the Wii's internal memory, you will be able to purchase and download Virtual Console and WiiWare software directly from the Shopping Channel to an SD memory card. [COLOR=Orange]We will also make it so that you will need to go through just one process in order to transfer Virtual Console or WiiWare software stored on an SD card to the Wii console and then be able to play it.[/COLOR] We would like to deal with this issue utilizing two methods. Since the updates to realize these new structures will require significant revisions to the Wii system, and these changes need to be made by taking care of a variety of different angles, this method will become effective beginning next spring. For some of you, this may be considered late. But please know that we really appreciate your cooperation and understanding. We are working hard so we can begin the service as soon as possible. (Official Nintendo Source)

Satoru Iwata

What do you trust more: What Reggie says Iwata is doing, or what Iwata says he's doing?

No need to take it personally.

So do you think they'll do it like guitar hero 4?
The way that's supposed to work, if you don't know, is that you leave just enough room for ONE song on your wii internal memory, and then when you want to play a song on an SD card it just fills the blank space on your memory equal to one song.
I was thinking as I was typing it that that wouldn't work because games are different sizes
But songs are different sizes too
I think that would be reasonable, then you wouldn't have to manually transfer them back and force
Which is what Iwata alludes to when he says there will b ejust one process.

No need to take it personally.

So do you think they'll do it like guitar hero 4?
The way that's supposed to work, if you don't know, is that you leave just enough room for ONE song on your wii internal memory, and then when you want to play a song on an SD card it just fills the blank space on your memory equal to one song.
I was thinking as I was typing it that that wouldn't work because games are different sizes
But songs are different sizes too
I think that would be reasonable, then you wouldn't have to manually transfer them back and force
Which is what Iwata alludes to when he says there will b ejust one process.

guitarist4292

I'm not taking this personally. :?

By one process, I think he was referring to the new ability to download directly to the SD card then transfer to Wii to play (1 step) rather than downloading to the Wii, transferring to the SD card, then transferring to the Wii again when you want to play (2 steps.)

[QUOTE="guitarist4292"]

No need to take it personally.

So do you think they'll do it like guitar hero 4?
The way that's supposed to work, if you don't know, is that you leave just enough room for ONE song on your wii internal memory, and then when you want to play a song on an SD card it just fills the blank space on your memory equal to one song.
I was thinking as I was typing it that that wouldn't work because games are different sizes
But songs are different sizes too
I think that would be reasonable, then you wouldn't have to manually transfer them back and force
Which is what Iwata alludes to when he says there will b ejust one process.

clicketyclick

I'm not taking this personally. :?

By one process, I think he was referring to the new ability to download directly to the SD card then transfer to Wii to play (1 step) rather than downloading to the Wii, transferring to the SD card, then transferring to the Wii again when you want to play (2 steps.)

My apologies
Must have misinterperated your tone
Text is really bad about that.

I'm a bit upset by that, I must say
It's not really a "solution" considering you still have to transfer things to and from your console.

My apologies
Must have misinterperated your tone
Text is really bad about that.

guitarist4292

No worries. :)

Ya, it's not really a solution at all. It's just a slight improvement on the already existent method for dealing with space shortage. To tell you the truth, I find deleting and redownloading games to be easier.

Their "solution" makes sense when you consider it in the context of Nintendo Europe Marketing Director's comments that only "geeks and otaku" are asking for a storage solution. It's not an important problem then, because only a small fraction of consumers care. And they're the same geeks and otaku, so the thinking goes, who will be satisfied with any kind of bone thrown their way, like the Animal Crossing remake that turned out to be Nintendo's hardcore offering at E3 that Reggie alluded to. Hey, you should be happy!

[QUOTE="guitarist4292"]

My apologies
Must have misinterperated your tone
Text is really bad about that.

clicketyclick

No worries. :)

Ya, it's not really a solution at all. It's just a slight improvement on the already existent method for dealing with space shortage. To tell you the truth, I find deleting and redownloading games to be easier.

Their "solution" makes sense when you consider it in the context of Nintendo Europe Marketing Director's comments that only "geeks and otaku" are asking for a storage solution. It's not an important problem then, because only a small fraction of consumers care. And they're the same geeks and otaku, so the thinking goes, who will be satisfied with any kind of bone thrown their way, like the Animal Crossing remake that turned out to be Nintendo's hardcore offering at E3 that Reggie alluded to. Hey, you should be happy!

That's really dissapointing considering how excited everyone got when Nintendo announced they were working on a storage solution. This really doesn't help at all.

I was reading some of the comments on the GoNintendo article about this. Some of the people mention how it sounds similar to Guitar Hero song downloads.

The Wii channels (Wiiware and VC games) will appear in the channel menu even if they are stored on the SD card. When you click on a game that is stored on an SD card and play it, the game will transfer quickly to the Wii internal memory and play from there.

This sounds like it makes the most sense. Whether if it's the case or not, I don't know. But when Mr. Iwata says "you will need to go through just one process in order to transfer Virtual Console or WiiWare software stored on an SD card to the Wii console", it sounds like it is the case.

The Wii channels (Wiiware and VC games) will appear in the channel menu even if they are stored on the SD card. When you click on a game that is stored on an SD card and play it, the game will transfer quickly to the Wii internal memory and play from there.

Dark_Link142

That doesn't work when you don't have the space on your Wii, which is the problem that this "solution" is meant to address.

iwata said youll also be able to play them right off the sd card, go to the wii section click on dsi article its all in there

iwata said youll also be able to play them right off the sd card, go to the wii section click on dsi article its all in there

mariokart64fan

Please read through the posts before your post. Summary: No, he didn't. Iwata said you download directly onto the SD card and need to transfer to the Wii to play.

iwata said youll also be able to play them right off the sd card, go to the wii section click on dsi article its all in there

mariokart64fan

HAHA! ClicketyClick and I have already been through this
I referenced the same article, and unfortunately, that's what Reggie said Iwata said
Which happens to be wrong.

[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

iwata said youll also be able to play them right off the sd card, go to the wii section click on dsi article its all in there

guitarist4292

HAHA! ClicketyClick and I have already been through this
I referenced the same article, and unfortunately, that's what Reggie said Iwata said
Which happens to be wrong.

Who said what and how did he say it? lol

All I know is that the Wii FINALLY has a storage solution and us owners are better off for it!

[QUOTE="guitarist4292"][QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

iwata said youll also be able to play them right off the sd card, go to the wii section click on dsi article its all in there

I_Helios_I

HAHA! ClicketyClick and I have already been through this
I referenced the same article, and unfortunately, that's what Reggie said Iwata said
Which happens to be wrong.

Who said what and how did he say it? lol

All I know is that the Wii FINALLY has a storage solution and us owners are better off for it!

Call it a solution, if you will.
Iwata said that you can download games directly to your SD card
He said you cant play it directly off the sd card
but there would be a one-step process to transfer it to your wii to play it

if you want exactly what he said
Look at Clicketyclick's post on the previous page.

EDIT:
This is the quote (removed from context)

"We will make it so that, when there is not enough room on the Wii's internal memory, you will be able to purchase and download Virtual Console and WiiWare software directly from the Shopping Channel to an SD memory card. We will also make it so that you will need to go through just one process in order to transfer Virtual Console or WiiWare software stored on an SD card to the Wii console and then be able to play it."

Yeah, there's no storage solution. Nintnedo just doesn't get it. It's like having a burning building, and your 'solution' is to throw a cup of water on it.goblaa

HAHAHA! As much as I love Nintendo, they have been uncooperative about this memory issue and this is hilarious.
Hope you dont mind if I put it in my sig.

Yeah, there's no storage solution. Nintnedo just doesn't get it. It's like having a burning building, and your 'solution' is to throw a cup of water on it.goblaa

Haha yep!

I like it but I didn't see it as problem already and this doesn't really change much. I mean the only difference atleast from my understanding is now instead of downloading to the Wii and then transfering over to SD. I can just download it to the SD card, it does make it a little easier.

I always found the harddrive idea impractical. I mean, it would just make things look to crowded on my countertop as the harddrive would have to sit on top of my dreamcast. That would really annoy me after awhile.