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I'm still getting it regardlesstjoeb123
This is why Nintendo doesn't give a rat's ass about how you would have done it differently.
[QUOTE="tjoeb123"] I'm still getting it regardlessMetal_Mario99
This is why Nintendo doesn't give a rat's ass about how you would have done it differently.
Pretty much, anyway what your saying TC is completely unrealistic, it would be one thing to ask for all console, main series Mario games, but every Mario game is just ridiculous.Every Mario game on one disk? Not happening. TheColbertI would have done a special edition of New Super Mario Bros. Wii with Super Mario All-Stars + World - then added in Super Mario 64 and the music on a 2nd disk - and make that only available with the Red Wii console.
Your idea isn't very good because it makes potential remakes, ports, and rereleases in the future far less likely to be profitable for Nintendo.
[QUOTE="TheColbert"]Every Mario game on one disk? Not happening. Stinger78I would have done a special edition of New Super Mario Bros. Wii with Super Mario All-Stars + World - then added in Super Mario 64 and the music on a 2nd disk - and make that only available with the Red Wii console. That could be possible. TC had every Mario game ever on one disk(including sports games).
[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"][QUOTE="tjoeb123"] I'm still getting it regardlessSepewrath
This is why Nintendo doesn't give a rat's ass about how you would have done it differently.
Pretty much, anyway what your saying TC is completely unrealistic, it would be one thing to ask for all console, main series Mario games, but every Mario game is just ridiculous. You know what wouldn't be ridiculous? Maybe, just maybe, they could've given us Super Mario All Stars + Super Mario World. This is just pathetic.If they just added SMW and Yoshi's island, I would have been satisfied. Maybe Mario 64 as well since it was one of Mario's biggest titles.
BUt whatever, I never got the original All-Stars on the SNES anyways, so I'll get the game for sure.
-Super Mario Bros (arcade game)
-Super Mario Bros (nes)
-Lost Levels (nes)
-Super Mario Bros 2 (nes)
-Super Mario Bros 3 (nes)
-Super Mario World (snes)
-Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
-Super Mario RPG (snes)
-Super Mario 64
-Super Mario Sunshine (GC)
****I could have seen that happening, realistically, with the exception of maybe Sunshine--because a 3DS version is likely in the works.
I was just coming up with ways they could've utilized a lot more of the disc space, instead of just ~2MB of it.tjoeb123LOLOLOL yea i know right freakn money grubbing nintendo, they could have easily put every on it except for the wii mario games I think.
So...its a direct port of Mario All-Stars minus Mario World. I am so thrilled. I will pay a lot money for a 17 year old collection of ports. Yep. Fantastic Idea.
I love how they took their time deciding on which Mario games to put on this fantastic disc. I mean really, its so amazing that the wii disc can only hold 4 17 year old SNES games. Its such a wonder how it could fit THAT much.
Go Nintendo! No wonder you have been the top dogs for the past 2 generations! GREAT JOB!
For a 25th anniversary, I'd say its mediocre. I figured they would at least include world, but they didn't. The real selling point is the updated graphics though. I try to play the downloadable versions but the newer tvs blur things, and sometimes display things that weren't meant to appear on screen at all.
Its a real bummer that they couldn't have done better for $30.
[QUOTE="falconclan"]
The real selling point is the updated graphics
Metal_Mario99
Updated in 1993.
Nope, at least not what I read... I could be wrong, but I read somewhere miyamoto looked at the graphics and thought they looked crappy, so they made it crisper, also all the blocks have "25" on them instead of "?".Is this something else?
[QUOTE="Metal_Mario99"]
[QUOTE="falconclan"]
The real selling point is the updated graphics
falconclan
Updated in 1993.
Nope, at least not what I read... I could be wrong, but I read somewhere miyamoto looked at the graphics and thought they looked crappy, so they made it crisper, also all the blocks have "25" on them instead of "?".Is this something else?
Yes, that's something else. That's a "special" version of the original Super Mario Bros. that is included on the hard drive of the red 25th Anniversary Wii in Japan. There really isn't any difference between that version of SMB and the original, however, aside from minor cosmetic changes like the "25" on the blocks.
So...its a direct port of Mario All-Stars minus Mario World. I am so thrilled. I will pay a lot money for a 17 year old collection of ports. Yep. Fantastic Idea.
I love how they took their time deciding on which Mario games to put on this fantastic disc. I mean really, its so amazing that the wii disc can only hold 4 17 year old SNES games. Its such a wonder how it could fit THAT much.
Go Nintendo! No wonder you have been the top dogs for the past 2 generations! GREAT JOB!
My copy of Mario All-Stars SNES doesn't have SMW on it. Just 1, 2, 3 and LLs.That's a little overboard TC. Would be happy with Yoshi Island or at least something more.
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I was going to buy this "Limited Edition" but then it sold 300k in one week in Japan and there is nothing resembling "Limited" in 300K.
I'd rather buy the SNES game instead.
[QUOTE="JmanRBS"]My copy of Mario All-Stars SNES doesn't have SMW on it. Just 1, 2, 3 and LLs.So...its a direct port of Mario All-Stars minus Mario World. I am so thrilled. I will pay a lot money for a 17 year old collection of ports. Yep. Fantastic Idea.
I love how they took their time deciding on which Mario games to put on this fantastic disc. I mean really, its so amazing that the wii disc can only hold 4 17 year old SNES games. Its such a wonder how it could fit THAT much.
Go Nintendo! No wonder you have been the top dogs for the past 2 generations! GREAT JOB!
so_hai
So...its a direct port of Mario All-Stars minus Mario World. I am so thrilled. I will pay a lot money for a 17 year old collection of ports. Yep. Fantastic Idea.
I love how they took their time deciding on which Mario games to put on this fantastic disc. I mean really, its so amazing that the wii disc can only hold 4 17 year old SNES games. Its such a wonder how it could fit THAT much.
Go Nintendo! No wonder you have been the top dogs for the past 2 generations! GREAT JOB!
Technically, 4 17 year old NES games, not SNES :PI would have just added both Mario Land games and Yoshis Island to the collection not every title in the franchise.
It's actually pretty ridiculous what Nintendo have done. It's beyond lazy and anyone that actually buys this should be ashamed of themselves. Lets look at how a good collection is supposed to be. Sonic Mega Collection Plus for example. It contains all four main series Mega Drive games. It contains several Game Gear titles. It contains spin-off Sonic games on the Mega Drive, such as Spinball and Dr Robotniks mean bean machine. It also has Sonic 3D. On top of that it even has Mega Drive titles that have nothing to do with Sonic, such as Ristar, Flicky, Comix Zone and The Ooze. That is how a classic compilation is supposed to be done. But Nintendo knows that to get money out of their fans they dont need to put in any effort. It's laughable that they dont even have the decency to put SMW in there.
Yeah, the amount of effort they put into those collections is commendable, even if the re-release similar ones every other year. But they do have a somewhat devalued mascot with Sonic, where Mario still rakes in the money for Nintendo. And after all, if people will buy an $8 VC game on a disc for $30, why not?It's actually pretty ridiculous what Nintendo have done. It's beyond lazy and anyone that actually buys this should be ashamed of themselves. Lets look at how a good collection is supposed to be. Sonic Mega Collection Plus for example. It contains all four main series Mega Drive games. It contains several Game Gear titles. It contains spin-off Sonic games on the Mega Drive, such as Spinball and Dr Robotniks mean bean machine. It also has Sonic 3D. On top of that it even has Mega Drive titles that have nothing to do with Sonic, such as Ristar, Flicky, Comix Zone and The Ooze. That is how a classic compilation is supposed to be done. But Nintendo knows that to get money out of their fans they dont need to put in any effort. It's laughable that they dont even have the decency to put SMW in there.
burgeg
[QUOTE="burgeg"]Yeah, the amount of effort they put into those collections is commendable, even if the re-release similar ones every other year. But they do have a somewhat devalued mascot with Sonic, where Mario still rakes in the money for Nintendo. And after all, if people will buy an $8 VC game on a disc for $30, why not?To be fair the collections Sega bring out almost always have a lot of different games. Sonic Gems Collection had completely different games to Mega Collection Plus. Sega Mega Drive Collection shared a few games from SMC+, but had tons of games thay hadn't yet re-released. Sega Mega Drive Ultimate Collection did have all the games from the previous collection but tons more as well. It actually had 40 plus games compared to the previous collection's 27 or so. The only Sega collection that's felt like a cheap cash-in collection is Sonic Classic Collection on DS, which just released the main Sonic games again, with not so good emulation from what I hear.It's actually pretty ridiculous what Nintendo have done. It's beyond lazy and anyone that actually buys this should be ashamed of themselves. Lets look at how a good collection is supposed to be. Sonic Mega Collection Plus for example. It contains all four main series Mega Drive games. It contains several Game Gear titles. It contains spin-off Sonic games on the Mega Drive, such as Spinball and Dr Robotniks mean bean machine. It also has Sonic 3D. On top of that it even has Mega Drive titles that have nothing to do with Sonic, such as Ristar, Flicky, Comix Zone and The Ooze. That is how a classic compilation is supposed to be done. But Nintendo knows that to get money out of their fans they dont need to put in any effort. It's laughable that they dont even have the decency to put SMW in there.
DJ_Lae
What would have been fair of Nintendo would have been to just release the SNES Super Mario All Stars on the Virtual Console for the price of a SNES game. But Nintendo aren't stupid. This might be the fair thing to do for consumers, but it's not the most profitable one. Instead they're overpricing the collection and releasing it as a retail game. Unfortunately people will buy it.
Oh I see the problem here, people think that Nintendo is running a *#*&@# charity
"They could included every Mario game up to the Wii" yeah and then what?
What sense is there to add those games? I really want to hear what possible logic is used to included all the "main" Mario games for 125-150 and then think that it's going to help with everyone getting a piece of the Mario nostalgia. Yeah nothing like taking a console that's got casuals as it's core and making a piece of software three digits, heck even Wii Fit was under that.
People are actually saying "wasting a disc"? Are you kidding me? it's one disc, when I back up my PC I toss away discs if I make a mistake labeling them with my Sharpie and you people are worried that this disc is somehow wasting what exactly? You think you need a certain amount of content to validate having a DVD? YOu only buy games that come close to filling the free space on the disc?
This is a throwback to the single package that was offered in the SNES days and that's it. Some people who don't even know their history are saying "Super Mario World was added too and we don't get it" and for the last freaking time Super Mario World was not redone for this All Stars package because the older Mario games were redone with 16 bit tech, since Mario World was ALREADY 16 bit what does that tell you? The only way to get Super Mario World in an All Stars package was to buy a console and even then it's the same game as the regular one it's just one cart that had the Mario All Stars games plus the option to choose Super Mario World.
What all this boils down to is that people are upset that Nintendo isn't giving things away and if they were in charge they'd give away whatever they wanted to make the people happy because they think that a business isn't about making money
You guys came through loud and clear
once again, jayson is in complete left field. the "wasting of a disk" isn't the physical waste of a disk. the game uses up about 2MB on a 4.38 GB disk. thats 0.045 percent of the disk space used. to compare, make a sandwhich. now, find a way to dissect it into 1,000 pieces, and take four and a half of those crumbs, then throw away the rest of the sandwhich. is that a waste? to you, im sure its not, because you are just naturally contradictory. Also, there were 2 All-Stars on the SNES, and one of them included Super Mario World, the other one was the package that the wii is getting. why the wii one couldn't have Super Mario world is beyond me. why celebrate 25 years, but leave out arguably the best part of the 25 years. The lack of super mario world is unforgivable. AND ANOTHER THING; the game is being sold for 30 dollars. they aren't giving away anything. we could buy all of those games on the Virtual console, or even on the actual systems, for fractions of the cost; hell, you could buy the REAL Super Mario All-Stars, the one WITH super mario world, for about 15 bucks. Nintendo is not giving away anything.Oh I see the problem here, people think that Nintendo is running a *#*&@# charity
"They could included every Mario game up to the Wii" yeah and then what?
What sense is there to add those games? I really want to hear what possible logic is used to included all the "main" Mario games for 125-150 and then think that it's going to help with everyone getting a piece of the Mario nostalgia. Yeah nothing like taking a console that's got casuals as it's core and making a piece of software three digits, heck even Wii Fit was under that.
People are actually saying "wasting a disc"? Are you kidding me? it's one disc, when I back up my PC I toss away discs if I make a mistake labeling them with my Sharpie and you people are worried that this disc is somehow wasting what exactly? You think you need a certain amount of content to validate having a DVD? YOu only buy games that come close to filling the free space on the disc?
This is a throwback to the single package that was offered in the SNES days and that's it. Some people who don't even know their history are saying "Super Mario World was added too and we don't get it" and for the last freaking time Super Mario World was not redone for this All Stars package because the older Mario games were redone with 16 bit tech, since Mario World was ALREADY 16 bit what does that tell you? The only way to get Super Mario World in an All Stars package was to buy a console and even then it's the same game as the regular one it's just one cart that had the Mario All Stars games plus the option to choose Super Mario World.
What all this boils down to is that people are upset that Nintendo isn't giving things away and if they were in charge they'd give away whatever they wanted to make the people happy because they think that a business isn't about making money
You guys came through loud and clear
Jaysonguy
It's surprising since Nintendo has done more generous things in the past. For one, Super Mario All Stars was free with the purchase of SNES. With Gamecube, they gave us a much better mix with the 4 Zelda games free (Zelda, Zelda II, Zelda OoT, Zelda MM) with a Gamecube purchase. With purchase of Zelda WW, we got a Zelda OoT and a different version free with preorder. $29 isn't bad (should be $20 though since it's esentially a recycled game and hopefully I'm wrong), but it seems odd to have a bundle that amounts to less than 1 MB on a 4GB Disc.
This will sell regardless, but I would have loved to have seen the arcade versions of Donkey Kong, Donkey Kong Jr, and Mario Bros. Along with those, I would have enjoyed seeing games like Yoshi Island(since its not on the VC), Super Mario Land, Super Mario Land 2, and Donkey Kong 94.
I can maybe understand Nintendo not wanting to add games that are on the Virtual Console due to them losing money from those VC downloads, but this collection is a little thin for thrity bucks. To be honest, I would happily trade off the music CD and history booklet if I could have gotten more games on this collection that showcase Mario's overall history.
Compared to other collections it just seems lazy to toss a SNES collection onto a disc and all it a day. With a character like Mario who has a deep history in gaming, would it really have killed them to at least put his Arcade and Game Boy games along with Yoshi's island on the disc?
You know, the stuff that's not currently on the Virtual Console?
Oh I see the problem here, people think that Nintendo is running a *#*&@# charity
"They could included every Mario game up to the Wii" yeah and then what?
What sense is there to add those games? I really want to hear what possible logic is used to included all the "main" Mario games for 125-150 and then think that it's going to help with everyone getting a piece of the Mario nostalgia. Yeah nothing like taking a console that's got casuals as it's core and making a piece of software three digits, heck even Wii Fit was under that.
People are actually saying "wasting a disc"? Are you kidding me? it's one disc, when I back up my PC I toss away discs if I make a mistake labeling them with my Sharpie and you people are worried that this disc is somehow wasting what exactly? You think you need a certain amount of content to validate having a DVD? YOu only buy games that come close to filling the free space on the disc?
This is a throwback to the single package that was offered in the SNES days and that's it. Some people who don't even know their history are saying "Super Mario World was added too and we don't get it" and for the last freaking time Super Mario World was not redone for this All Stars package because the older Mario games were redone with 16 bit tech, since Mario World was ALREADY 16 bit what does that tell you? The only way to get Super Mario World in an All Stars package was to buy a console and even then it's the same game as the regular one it's just one cart that had the Mario All Stars games plus the option to choose Super Mario World.
What all this boils down to is that people are upset that Nintendo isn't giving things away and if they were in charge they'd give away whatever they wanted to make the people happy because they think that a business isn't about making money
You guys came through loud and clear
Jaysonguy
My problem is that this collection is lacking when compared to the ones Sega, Capcom, SNK, Namco, Taito and others have put out over the years. I don't expect every Mario game ever made on this disc, but I expect more then a SNES game slapped onto a disc.
I can understand why the VC Mario games aren't on this collection since Nintendo does not want to lose the money on those downloads, but what's stopping them from putting the Game Boy and Arcade games on this disc along with Yoshi's Island?
Actually, the first part I can no longer understand after thinking about it a while. It reminds me a bit of the versions of Street Fighter 2, which Capcom trickled out on the VC in order of quality - obviously they shoveled on the original one first or people would never buy it (and even then all they got were the impatient gamers or those crazy people who buy every VC release). The Mario games are already out on the VC - anyone who really cares about them has already bought them. Putting them on the disc isn't going to hurt downloads very much - at least, I can't imagine it would hurt anything. It's not as if VC or WiiWare titles sell like gangbusters anyway. Putting the original games found in All-Stars would be a nice first start, so people could more easily compare them to the updated versions. But while I'd love to see Yoshi's Island, Nintendo is obviously too bloody lazy to bother coding FX support in at this point. Sure, people have done it in their basement for countless SNES emulators over the years, but for some reason we can't get anything official from Nintendo (who developed the chip in the first place) to make Yoshi's Island, Stunt Race FX, or Star Fox playable.I can understand why the VC Mario games aren't on this collection since Nintendo does not want to lose the money on those downloads, but what's stopping them from putting the Game Boy and Arcade games on this disc along with Yoshi's Island?
caryslan2
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