hopefully the next nintendo handheld has cube ps2 graphics or better

because I can't wait for that to happen ;)

It's always a balance between hardware and trying to keep the handhelds and in this particular case trying not to encroach too much on the Wii.

I wonder though, is the majority of 2d goodness available only because most developers can't get very good results in 3d on the DS? Or is it a choice? I'd hate to see the largely 2d games that characterise handhelds dissapear simply because the technology moved on. That would make handheld gaming simple a console-lite experience rather than something unique in its own right.

Well, that is the logical next step.

They've already proven they don't need to be on the bleeding edge of tech to sell well in the handheld market, long before they did so in the console world. I could see it (the next handheld) being roughly as powerful as a PSP, MAYBE just a hair more. Hopefully, they use hella advanced compression tech to push out the equivalent of a "lite" version right out of the gate, and have a small HDD on it, and spread the Virtual Console love.

It seems the Wii will get one soon, as Reggie just recently tried to download a new VC game and said "Huh, man I'm out of room, why won't Nintendo make a HDD for the Wii, 512MB isn't enough, those freaking idi... wait a second...I work for Nintendo! Yay!" Super Metroid on the go, since they were too lazy to do a GBA port for some reason, would be cool.

The best graphics do not mean better games! Does Mario need the latest and greatest Nvidia or ATI card to be fun or good game design? Some of you might have problems at the university!

if it can still be considered a handheld, and dont use those PSP CDs...

DS cards FTW

The best graphics do not mean better game!

bpatrick025741

This is true, the DS's superior number of sales over the PSP proves this too.

Cube? Maybe. PS2 no.siLVURcross

You do know the Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2, right?

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Cube? Maybe. PS2 no.SonOfTheSky05

You do know the Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2, right?

No, in a lot of cases, you are probably wright. But I think it's another thing if game developers try to make a big, full 3d world, but you can't take it serious because of the lame graphics.. The game can be great, but in that case it just takes away a bit (a bit) of the fun. don't you think?

The best graphics do not mean better games! Does Mario need the latest and greatest Nvidia or ATI card to be fun or good game design? Some of you might have problems at the university!

bpatrick025741

No, in a lot of cases, you are probably wright. But I think it's another thing if game developers try to make a big, full 3d world, but you can't take it serious because of the lame graphics.. The game can be great, but in that case it just takes away a bit (a bit) of the fun. don't you think?

[QUOTE="bpatrick025741"]

The best graphics do not mean better game!

hama666

This is true, the DS's superior number of sales over the PSP proves this too.

but the psp just has a lot of lame games...
And not such a big group of human targets.

fun game play comes first, graphics are only second.Jdog30

u-huh, but second is also really imortant, no?

[QUOTE="SonOfTheSky05"]

[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Cube? Maybe. PS2 no.diped

You do know the Gamecube was more powerful than the PS2, right?

I hope not..
In my imaginationnn... *dreamy* the new handheld will be as good as ps3 or better with huuuggggeeee worlds and possibilities... that would be amaaaazingg...

wow and ofcourse there would only be very very good games with very low prices because everyone wants them and than the developers don't need to ask so much money for us because they make a lot of money anyway...

I wish my wish came true.

Am I the only one who is in no hurry for "the next DS"? I think the current system has plenty of life left in it and we've hit that sweet spot where developers know all the nuances of the system to milk the best games possible out of the hardware.

Having said that, I really hope Nintendo doesn't focus too heavily on graphics in the next handheld (which, all indications point to they won't). As I believe someone before me had mentioned, I don't want the handheld market to just because "console light". Give me more features instead. Dual touchscreens, a touchscreen that accepts input from more than one point at a time, a tilt sensor, and whatever else Nintendo can dream up is what I want. It's all about the innovation :) Also, as another member posted above me, the system has to be cartridge/card based (no discs) and have excellent battery life. That's my wishlist.

Am I the only one who is in no hurry for "the next DS"? I think the current system has plenty of life left in it and we've hit that sweet spot where developers know all the nuances of the system to milk the best games possible out of the hardware.

Having said that, I really hope Nintendo doesn't focus too heavily on graphics in the next handheld (which, all indications point to they won't). As I believe someone before me had mentioned, I don't want the handheld market to just because "console light". Give me more features instead. Dual touchscreens, a touchscreen that accepts input from more than one point at a time, a tilt sensor, and whatever else Nintendo can dream up is what I want. It's all about the innovation :) Also, as another member posted above me, the system has to be cartridge/card based (no discs) and have excellent battery life. That's my wishlist.

SonOfTheSky05

Oh I want that tooo!! but also good graphics :D

if it can still be considered a handheld, and dont use those PSP CDs...

DS cards FTW

BrunoBRS

Cd's or umds have more space and can handle better graphics, this is why the ps1 had some better looking games than the n64, also it introduces load times but thats a scarifice iw ould take

The best graphics do not mean better games! Does Mario need the latest and greatest Nvidia or ATI card to be fun or good game design? Some of you might have problems at the university!

bpatrick025741

Am I the only one who is in no hurry for "the next DS"? I think the current system has plenty of life left in it and we've hit that sweet spot where developers know all the nuances of the system to milk the best games possible out of the hardware.

SonOfTheSky05

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

if it can still be considered a handheld, and dont use those PSP CDs...

DS cards FTW

Djmaster214

Cd's or umds have more space and can handle better graphics, this is why the ps1 had some better looking games than the n64, also it introduces load times but thats a scarifice iw ould take

CDs are also more fragile and, in addition to the "load times they introduce", they also put a serious drain on battery life. In my mind, that's a major no-no for a portable system

since we r talkin hope why not graphics like the 4 gen consols

Having said that, I really hope Nintendo doesn't focus too heavily on graphics in the next handheld (which, all indications point to they won't). As I believe someone before me had mentioned, I don't want the handheld market to just because "console light". Give me more features instead. Dual touchscreens, a touchscreen that accepts input from more than one point at a time, a tilt sensor, and whatever else Nintendo can dream up is what I want. It's all about the innovation :) Also, as another member posted above me, the system has to be cartridge/card based (no discs) and have excellent battery life. That's my wishlist.

SonOfTheSky05

[QUOTE="Djmaster214"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

if it can still be considered a handheld, and dont use those PSP CDs...

DS cards FTW

SonOfTheSky05

Cd's or umds have more space and can handle better graphics, this is why the ps1 had some better looking games than the n64, also it introduces load times but thats a scarifice iw ould take

CDs are also more fragile and, in addition to the "load times they introduce", they also put a serious drain on battery life. In my mind, that's a major no-no for a portable system

Plus solid state memory has come down in price in the last few years. Multi-GB cards seem like a real possibility for their next system.

Since game development is taking longer now and costs alot of money to achieve detailed and realistic worlds and characters, it's probably better for companies to stick to Wii and DS for another decade until they are in better positions to develop for HD consoles and so on. It's taken five years to get out Twilight Princess and Super Mario Galaxy, imagine how long it will take for their successors.

Since game development is taking longer now and costs alot of money to achieve detailed and realistic worlds and characters, it's probably better for companies to stick to Wii and DS for another decade until they are in better positions to develop for HD consoles and so on. It's taken five years to get out Twilight Princess and Super Mario Galaxy, imagine how long it will take for their successors.

Ganados0

I don't want to wait 10 more years!! *cries*

Whatever they decide to do, they had better keep the dual screens.SirSnafflepuss

Wouldn't be a 'DS' without the dual screen!

Hope that if that happens they still use sprites, and old-school games

The only good i see about it is more space for games, more than the 256 MB (at the moment) of maximum space used on the ds, thats mean extended gameplay and better inversion in games, and obviusly less stupid games.

RTS____EX

I totally agree on these two remarks.

Am I the only one who is in no hurry for "the next DS"? I think the current system has plenty of life left in it and we've hit that sweet spot where developers know all the nuances of the system to milk the best games possible out of the hardware.

Having said that, I really hope Nintendo doesn't focus too heavily on graphics in the next handheld (which, all indications point to they won't). As I believe someone before me had mentioned, I don't want the handheld market to just because "console light". Give me more features instead. Dual touchscreens, a touchscreen that accepts input from more than one point at a time, a tilt sensor, and whatever else Nintendo can dream up is what I want. It's all about the innovation :) Also, as another member posted above me, the system has to be cartridge/card based (no discs) and have excellent battery life. That's my wishlist.

SonOfTheSky05

There is no need for Nintendo to rush a predecessor for the DS because The DS is so revolutionary already that it can last 15 years. The DS is the new PS2.Burning-Sludge

nooooooooooooooooo!!! not 15 yearsssss.... :( that would suk

It will have GameCube-level graphics.

Game Boy/Game Boy Color - NES

Game Boy Advance - SNES

DS - N64

Next-gen Nintendo handheld - GameCube.

There will be more of a focus on 3D so they probably will have a thumbstick unlike before. I also hope they drop the dual screen in favor of a large screen. This doesn't mean they can't keep the touch screen as part of that. Of course they can...

I hope it has Gamecube graphics. The PSP has ported PS2 games for it.;)

I also want a web browser and multimedia content compatibility. The built in mic was a really good idea.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

if it can still be considered a handheld, and dont use those PSP CDs...

DS cards FTW

Djmaster214

Cd's or umds have more space and can handle better graphics, this is why the ps1 had some better looking games than the n64, also it introduces load times but thats a scarifice iw ould take

leave power to the big ones.

It will have GameCube-level graphics.

Game Boy/Game Boy Color - NES

Game Boy Advance - SNES

DS - N64

Next-gen Nintendo handheld - GameCube.

There will be more of a focus on 3D so they probably will have a thumbstick unlike before. I also hope they drop the dual screen in favor of a large screen. This doesn't mean they can't keep the touch screen as part of that. Of course they can...

Stancel_Spencer

How is it going to backwards compatible if its a PSP with a touchscreen and an analog stick?