3DS will be like having a portable N64?

[QUOTE="GamerForca"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] ........ what was the last time you played an N64 game? because i have, and the superiority of the DS is crystal clear to me.BrunoBRS

it just adds ram witch lets them have bigger worlds and more content on screen.

Ok, will just have to disagree then. I'm just shocked that you actually see it that way. OoT alone looks much better than either DS Zelda, and now you're saying those games look better than MM too? Wow. Oh well. I also have FFVIII and IX on PS1 and FFIII and IV on the DS and the PS1 FFs look much better as well. :? But I guess this is all irrelevant to the strength of the 3DS, which I just preordered tonight. :)GamerForca

Once again I will repeat myself

"Ok this is it
Gbc=better graphics than NES (compare links awakening and oracle of ages and seasons to legend of zelda nes)
Gba=better graphics than SNES (compare minish cap to a link to the past)
DS=better graphics than n64(compare super mario 64 DS to super mario 64) 3DS=better than gamecube(compare resident evil 4 to resident evil revelations and metal gear solid 3D to metal gear solid twin snakes)
No the ds wasn't as powerful as the n64, in fact it was around the ps1's power, but its a smaller screen meaning less is more. It's clear the 3DS graphics are above gamecubes. With games like resident evil revelarions and super street fighter 4 3d the games look almost as good as their hd counterparts. No they are worse but they look as close to the hd consoles than the wii ever did and they're not even released. This tells you when the 3ds gets near the end of its cycle, were gonna see almost xbox 360 looking games."

Here are some screens to proove my theory:

As you can see bowser looks 100 times better in 64 ds and so does mario and this is a DS launch game vs the n64 when it was a few years in.

in this image the n64 has far less jaggies, but the colour in the ds version is far better and the background textures look better.

and anyways, Golden Sun Dark Dawn on the DS, I don't think any N64 game is quite as good as it. I thought a screen wouldn't do justice and youi actually have to see the game in motion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9VwT8qhVFLQ

anyways last but not least, two great FPS's:

even in this one, the DS version like always has far better colour and other than that they're fairly equal, maybe the n64 version has a bit less jaggies.

In conclusion, the n64 is more powerful, but the ds has a much smaller screen making it able to have better colours. If DS was on a larger screen, it would be trumpled by the amount of jaggies, but the DS has a very small screen so it produces a better image and no I don't hate the n64 at all. In fact it is my favorite console of all time. In fact all the titles I compared I like the n64 ones much more, but the DS does look better.

I just need to walk away, but....

As you can see bowser looks 100 times better in 64 ds and so does mario and this is a DS launch game vs the n64 when it was a few years in.

FPS1337

*facepalm* SM64 was a launch title when 3D games were still new. Why do people use this game as a measure of the N64's strength? Banjo Tooie much? And why use Goldeneye to show the N64's graphical capabilities? Perfect Dark much?

FPS1337... you used the wrong golden sun screenshot to show how awesome it looks. you have to show the summons :PBrunoBRS

The origional DS is a portable n64. The 3DS is a portable GC/Wii. Because of the small screen and its in 3D it will look more closer to xbox 360 style graphics.

It's like this:

Game Boy Color = NES+

Game Boy Advance = SNES+

DS = PS1+

3DS = GameCube+

The DS was NOT a portable N64. It was weaker and had pixelated graphics. It could also access less RAM for games.

I think you're forgetting how bad the N64 looked. Ports and Emulators (where the 'comparison' shots are from) are all much better quality than how it really looked back then. This screenshot is a lot closer to what Ocarina of Time looked like back then.

And then you have games that look like this.

DS can never beat that.

I think you're forgetting how bad the N64 looked. Ports and Emulators (where the 'comparison' shots are from) are all much better quality than how it really looked back then. This screenshot is a lot closer to what Ocarina of Time looked like back then.

http://insidermedia.ign.com/insider/image/zelda_oot_ht2_640w.jpg

gohanmaster11

Here's how a Expansion Pak (the extra 4 megs memory expansion) enhanced N64 game looked like (Donkey Kong 64):

[QUOTE="gohanmaster11"]

I think you're forgetting how bad the N64 looked. Ports and Emulators (where the 'comparison' shots are from) are all much better quality than how it really looked back then. This screenshot is a lot closer to what Ocarina of Time looked like back then.

http://insidermedia.ign.com/insider/image/zelda_oot_ht2_640w.jpg

nameless12345

Here's how a Expansion Pak (the extra 4 megs memory expansion) enhanced N64 game looked like (Donkey Kong 64):

but if we are to take mario kart as an example its a bit odd. looking at screen shots clearly the N64 version looks better but it doesnt tell the whole story. on the DS everything is very smooth and the karts are full 3D models. it runs really nicely. the N64 version uses sprites for the carts (and not that pretty at that) and everything feels jerky and off. but it is running at a higher resolution with better textures.

its the same with zelda....the animation and movement through the world in OOT and MM is poor (something which will hopefully be improved in the 3DS version). however moving through the world in both DS zeldas and the animation of link and co is much smoother in comparison (closer to WW or TP in that regard).

this could just be a case of having less experience with 3D stuff though rather than any weakness in the hardware...or due to the limited size of the carts (DS carts are much bigger than N64 carts in capacity). on paper the N64 was certainly more powerful though.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="gohanmaster11"]

I think you're forgetting how bad the N64 looked. Ports and Emulators (where the 'comparison' shots are from) are all much better quality than how it really looked back then. This screenshot is a lot closer to what Ocarina of Time looked like back then.

http://insidermedia.ign.com/insider/image/zelda_oot_ht2_640w.jpg

osan0

Here's how a Expansion Pak (the extra 4 megs memory expansion) enhanced N64 game looked like (Donkey Kong 64):

but if we are to take mario kart as an example its a bit odd. looking at screen shots clearly the N64 version looks better but it doesnt tell the whole story. on the DS everything is very smooth and the karts are full 3D models. it runs really nicely. the N64 version uses sprites for the carts (and not that pretty at that) and everything feels jerky and off. but it is running at a higher resolution with better textures.

its the same with zelda....the animation and movement through the world in OOT and MM is poor (something which will hopefully be improved in the 3DS version). however moving through the world in both DS zeldas and the animation of link and co is much smoother in comparison (closer to WW or TP in that regard).

this could just be a case of having less experience with 3D stuff though rather than any weakness in the hardware...or due to the limited size of the carts (DS carts are much bigger than N64 carts in capacity). on paper the N64 was certainly more powerful though.

That's true, Mario Kart 64 has 2D sprites for carts and the DS version runs smoother and has more detail overall.

Also OoT and MM have unsmooth framerates and the DS Zeldas have Cel-shading and Mario 64 DS has better models.

However, the DS is lacking some key features that N64 had like bilinear texture filtering (which means that all DS 3D games look pixelated), environment mapping (like on metal Mario in SM64 for example) and the N64 can use twice more RAM via the memory expansion.

closer to Gamecube if anything, those graphics smoke the N64.

Prince_Denspion

The n64 was blurry as hell and the distance of the games wasnt very far. Most games felt like you were playing in the fog. I remember loving the first turok game but still it seemed you could barely see 10 feet in front of you.AutoPilotOn

Games like Majora's Mask and Battle For Naboo had big draw distances almost without any fog.