world war games in which you could play as Germany (Nazi Germany)

I was a little disappointed in Call of Duty world at war since there was no German campaign. Do you have any suggestions of an FPS game where you are a soldier from the Wehrmacht or the SS? I don't want any of those zombie,supernatural etc., I'm looking for a ww2 setting, it's ok even if the events are in alternate history (Germany won Barbarossa, Germany repelled the Russians, etc.) Thanks.

I ain't playin' as no damn Nazi.

Why play as a nazi when you can shoot a nazi instead?

I was a little disappointed in Call of Duty world at war since there was no German campaign. Do you have any suggestions of an FPS game where you are a soldier from the Wehrmacht or the SS? I don't want any of those zombie,supernatural etc., I'm looking for a ww2 setting, it's ok even if the events are in alternate history (Germany won Barbarossa, Germany repelled the Russians, etc.) Thanks.

solely

Why play as a nazi when you can shoot a nazi instead?

Wii4Fun

Or a few thousands instead .

Any person that would actually like to put themselves in Nazi shoes probably needs to see a psychiatrist.

julianwelton

well i hope that psychiatriast's office was ready to handle over 18 million patients....just playing devils advocate

I know what you want!

Its called :

Red Orchestra: Heroes of Stalingrad!

http://www.heroesofstalingrad.com/

Let me point out for you, if you are too lazy to read!

Heroes of Stalingrad will take the award winning Red Orchestra franchise into the next generation of gaming. Cutting edge graphics and audio built on Unreal Engine 3, inventive features and streamlined realism will deliver an unrivaled WWII experience. Focusing on the Battle of Stalingrad and the surrounding operations, both German and Russian, from July 1942 to February 1943 the game allows the player to experience one of the most brutal battles in all of human history. For the first time ever in a first person shooter gamers will be able to experience WWII from the Axis side in a German single player campaign. As always with the Red Orchestra franchise, Tripwire will aim to deliver unrivaled accuracy and attention to detail, along with gritty, vicious combat in multi-player, co-op and solo modes. Again, Tripwire have listened to the fans and have designed a whole set of new features to make the game more accessible and easy to get into – all while delivering the tactical shooter realism fans of the original game loved.

Thank you, Azerot. Was just about to suggest that.

To the folks who posted upwards, while I hate the idea of the Nazis as much as the next guy, I think the OP just means the war from a German soldier's perspective (who doesn't have to be a Jew-massacring Hitler fanatic... unless you do play as SS, and in that case, shame on you). But I for one usually select Axis when I play WW2 games.

It's like the Taliban argument all over again. Why play Taliban when you can shoot one? Because in every game of cops and robbers, some kid has to be the robber. And that's that.

Thank you, Azerot. Was just about to suggest that.

To the folks who posted upwards, while I hate the idea of the Nazis as much as the next guy, I think the OP just means the war from a German soldier's perspective (who doesn't have to be a Jew-massacring Hitler fanatic... unless you do play as SS, and in that case, shame on you). But I for one usually select Axis when I play WW2 games.

It's like the Taliban argument all over again. Why play Taliban when you can shoot one? Because in every game of cops and robbers, some kid has to be the robber. And that's that.

Sharpie125

Actually, in Americas Army, i think no matter which team you selected, your team looked as if you were an american soldier. And other team looked like some enemy, whatever they were up against.

And normal german soldiers were not the same as SS. I know that some would protest, if i said same thing about Waffen-SS, but most Waffen-SS by the 1944 wasn't even made of germans.

rather shoot them. no offence.

[QUOTE="julianwelton"]

Any person that would actually like to put themselves in Nazi shoes probably needs to see a psychiatrist.

198d

well i hope that psychiatriast's office was ready to handle over 18 million patients....just playing devils advocate

technically, you don't shoot nazis in games, you are shooting whermarcht soldiers..... who may or may not be a nazi (and mostly weren't as bad as nazis)funsohng

Thank you, Azerot. Was just about to suggest that.

To the folks who posted upwards, while I hate the idea of the Nazis as much as the next guy, I think the OP just means the war from a German soldier's perspective (who doesn't have to be a Jew-massacring Hitler fanatic... unless you do play as SS, and in that case, shame on you). But I for one usually select Axis when I play WW2 games.

It's like the Taliban argument all over again. Why play Taliban when you can shoot one? Because in every game of cops and robbers, some kid has to be the robber. And that's that.

Sharpie125

Like I said he specifically asked to play as the Nazis "Wehrmacht or the SS" were his exact words. I honestly think hes just looking for some controversy.

I was a little disappointed in Call of Duty world at war since there was no German campaign. Do you have any suggestions of an FPS game where you are a soldier from the Wehrmacht or the SS? I don't want any of those zombie,supernatural etc., I'm looking for a ww2 setting, it's ok even if the events are in alternate history (Germany won Barbarossa, Germany repelled the Russians, etc.) Thanks.

solely

Battlefield 1942?

[QUOTE="funsohng"]technically, you don't shoot nazis in games, you are shooting whermarcht soldiers..... who may or may not be a nazi (and mostly weren't as bad as nazis)julianwelton

[QUOTE="Sharpie125"]

Thank you, Azerot. Was just about to suggest that.

To the folks who posted upwards, while I hate the idea of the Nazis as much as the next guy, I think the OP just means the war from a German soldier's perspective (who doesn't have to be a Jew-massacring Hitler fanatic... unless you do play as SS, and in that case, shame on you). But I for one usually select Axis when I play WW2 games.

It's like the Taliban argument all over again. Why play Taliban when you can shoot one? Because in every game of cops and robbers, some kid has to be the robber. And that's that.

BattleforAzerot

Actually, in Americas Army, i think no matter which team you selected, your team looked as if you were an american soldier. And other team looked like some enemy, whatever they were up against.

Is that true? I would hate that, actually. I want the most immersion in my war games. If I'm going Axis, I want my comrades to yell in German over my headset (via in game voice options). I want to be dressed in the uniform and see my team mates in the same colour, all wearing the iconic stahlhelm and jackboots. Especially in Red Orchestra, I play Axis so much I get jumpy whenever I get saddled with Russian and I see my team mates run in front of me. And since the colours are always Russian-Red and Axis-Blue, whenever I get a kill I'm always thinking, Wait a sec, was that a kill or a team kill?

Red Orchestra 2.

And guys, Only the SS were nazis, not the normal army. Get your facts staight, and stop being ignorant.

For those who don't know that much about Germany in ww2, watch Band of Brothers and Valkyrie.

Red Orchestra 2.

And guys, Only the SS were nazis, not the normal army. Get your facts staight, and stop being ignorant.

morrowindnic

they were all members of the nazi party, thus they were nazis. you need to get your facts straight brah.

you vote republican you are a republican, vote democrat you are a democrat, etc

"Nazi" is short for nationalsozialist. the actual party was called the National Socialist German Worker's Party (nationalsozialistische deutsche arbeitpartei). "Nazi" is how we say it in english, because were too lazy to say things in other languages.

its understandable that a lot of the people that voted for the NSGWP were duped into doing so (*cough* the STAGED burning of the reichstag *cough*), but regardless they did it. They allowed themselves to be a part of that government and be apart of everything that proceeded, mainly out of fear.

on another note:

the schutzstaffel (or ss to people that get all their history lessons from a tube) was an upper echelon branch of the nazi party. they were the "protection squadron" of germany. they get the heat because they were the ones responsible for most of the inhumane crimes committed.

the waffen-ss was the military of the ss, consisting of panzer, infanrty, panzergrenadier, and other divisions. they too got "f'ed in the a" during the nuremburg trials for crimes against humanity

[QUOTE="morrowindnic"]

Red Orchestra 2.

And guys, Only the SS were nazis, not the normal army. Get your facts staight, and stop being ignorant.

198d

they were all members of the nazi party, thus they were nazis. you need to get your facts straight brah.

you vote republican you are a republican, vote democrat you are a democrat, etc

"Nazi" is short for nationalsozialist. the actual party was called the National Socialist German Worker's Party (nationalsozialistische deutsche arbeitpartei). "Nazi" is how we say it in english, because were too lazy to say things in other languages.

its understandable that a lot of the people that voted for the NSGWP were duped into doing so (*cough* the STAGED burning of the reichstag *cough*), but regardless they did it. They allowed themselves to be a part of that government and be apart of everything that proceeded, mainly out of fear.

on another note:

the schutzstaffel (or ss to people that get all their history lessons from a tube) was an upper echelon branch of the nazi party. they were the "protection squadron" of germany. they get the heat because they were the ones responsible for most of the inhumane crimes committed.

the waffen-ss was the military of the ss, consisting of panzer, infanrty, panzergrenadier, and other divisions. they too got "f'ed in the a" during the nuremburg trials for crimes against humanity

I thought the German Armed Forces (Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine) weren't allowed to have political affiliation although I'm sure there were many who supported Hitler and the Nazi Party.

It's just like the US Armed Forces. There's supposed to be no political affiliation within the ranks although I'm sure there's a big slant towards the Republican Party.

the waffen-ss was the military of the ss, consisting of panzer, infanrty, panzergrenadier, and other divisions. they too got "f'ed in the a" during the nuremburg trials for crimes against humanity

198d

And rightfully so.

To the guy who mentioned Japanese soldier, that could be interesting. The only problem I find (and while I clearly am no expert on any of this) from my many weeks of lurking around the Thin Red Line/The Pacific boards, the average Japanese soldier's training regimen was much more unconventional than your average Wehrmacht soldier's. They had very specific ideals about how to serve the Emperor. Now, I don't know if this is because of a lack of documentation from the other side, but many Western historians and veterans can list off the many atrocities committed by the regular Japanese soldier, brutalities that were encouraged.

I'm not say the Allied forces are free of committing war crimes, and in fact far from it. Just that it's harder to get behind the Japanese perspective (more that as Westerners, we can identify more with the "noble" German soldier, ie: the honourable non-Jew-killing serviceman). It's a little harder to draw the line in the Pacific theatre.

[QUOTE="198d"]

[QUOTE="morrowindnic"]

Red Orchestra 2.

And guys, Only the SS were nazis, not the normal army. Get your facts staight, and stop being ignorant.

jun_aka_pekto

they were all members of the nazi party, thus they were nazis. you need to get your facts straight brah.

you vote republican you are a republican, vote democrat you are a democrat, etc

"Nazi" is short for nationalsozialist. the actual party was called the National Socialist German Worker's Party (nationalsozialistische deutsche arbeitpartei). "Nazi" is how we say it in english, because were too lazy to say things in other languages.

its understandable that a lot of the people that voted for the NSGWP were duped into doing so (*cough* the STAGED burning of the reichstag *cough*), but regardless they did it. They allowed themselves to be a part of that government and be apart of everything that proceeded, mainly out of fear.

on another note:

the schutzstaffel (or ss to people that get all their history lessons from a tube) was an upper echelon branch of the nazi party. they were the "protection squadron" of germany. they get the heat because they were the ones responsible for most of the inhumane crimes committed.

the waffen-ss was the military of the ss, consisting of panzer, infanrty, panzergrenadier, and other divisions. they too got "f'ed in the a" during the nuremburg trials for crimes against humanity

I thought the German Armed Forces (Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine) weren't allowed to have political affiliation although I'm sure there were many who supported Hitler and the Nazi Party.

It's just like the US Armed Forces. There's supposed to be no political affiliation within the ranks although I'm sure there's a big slant towards the Republican Party.

yeah, it was implied...my bad. members of waffen-ss werent draftees

[QUOTE="morrowindnic"]

Red Orchestra 2.

And guys, Only the SS were nazis, not the normal army. Get your facts staight, and stop being ignorant.

198d

they were all members of the nazi party, thus they were nazis. you need to get your facts straight brah.

you vote republican you are a republican, vote democrat you are a democrat, etc

"Nazi" is short for nationalsozialist. the actual party was called the National Socialist German Worker's Party (nationalsozialistische deutsche arbeitpartei). "Nazi" is how we say it in english, because were too lazy to say things in other languages.

its understandable that a lot of the people that voted for the NSGWP were duped into doing so (*cough* the STAGED burning of the reichstag *cough*), but regardless they did it. They allowed themselves to be a part of that government and be apart of everything that proceeded, mainly out of fear.

on another note:

the schutzstaffel (or ss to people that get all their history lessons from a tube) was an upper echelon branch of the nazi party. they were the "protection squadron" of germany. they get the heat because they were the ones responsible for most of the inhumane crimes committed.

the waffen-ss was the military of the ss, consisting of panzer, infanrty, panzergrenadier, and other divisions. they too got "f'ed in the a" during the nuremburg trials for crimes against humanity

So if I join the US army, am I a Republican, Democrat, Nazi, Communist, non-affiliated, or what? Not everyone supported the Nazi party thank you, and not everyone wanted to kill jews.

[QUOTE="198d"]

the waffen-ss was the military of the ss, consisting of panzer, infanrty, panzergrenadier, and other divisions. they too got "f'ed in the a" during the nuremburg trials for crimes against humanity

Sharpie125

And rightfully so.

To the guy who mentioned Japanese soldier, that could be interesting. The only problem I find (and while I clearly am no expert on any of this) from my many weeks of lurking around the Thin Red Line/The Pacific boards, the average Japanese soldier's training regimen was much more unconventional than your average Wehrmacht soldier's. They had very specific ideals about how to serve the Emperor. Now, I don't know if this is because of a lack of documentation from the other side, but many Western historians and veterans can list off the many atrocities committed by the regular Japanese soldier, brutalities that were encouraged.

I'm not say the Allied forces are free of committing war crimes, and in fact far from it. Just that it's harder to get behind the Japanese perspective (more that as Westerners, we can identify more with the "noble" German soldier, ie: the honourable non-Jew-killing serviceman). It's a little harder to draw the line in the Pacific theatre.

i wish i knew so much more about the pacific theater, especially compared to the amount of stuff i know about the european theater. but one thing that i have always admired about Japanese Imperial Guard was their sense of honor. those guys were not afraid of death one bit. IMO thats the worse enemy you would ever have to face.

[QUOTE="198d"]

[QUOTE="morrowindnic"]

Red Orchestra 2.

And guys, Only the SS were nazis, not the normal army. Get your facts staight, and stop being ignorant.

morrowindnic

they were all members of the nazi party, thus they were nazis. you need to get your facts straight brah.

you vote republican you are a republican, vote democrat you are a democrat, etc

"Nazi" is short for nationalsozialist. the actual party was called the National Socialist German Worker's Party (nationalsozialistische deutsche arbeitpartei). "Nazi" is how we say it in english, because were too lazy to say things in other languages.

its understandable that a lot of the people that voted for the NSGWP were duped into doing so (*cough* the STAGED burning of the reichstag *cough*), but regardless they did it. They allowed themselves to be a part of that government and be apart of everything that proceeded, mainly out of fear.

on another note:

the schutzstaffel (or ss to people that get all their history lessons from a tube) was an upper echelon branch of the nazi party. they were the "protection squadron" of germany. they get the heat because they were the ones responsible for most of the inhumane crimes committed.

the waffen-ss was the military of the ss, consisting of panzer, infanrty, panzergrenadier, and other divisions. they too got "f'ed in the a" during the nuremburg trials for crimes against humanity

So if I join the US army, am I a Republican, Democrat, Nazi, Communist, non-affiliated, or what? Not everyone supported the Nazi party thank you, and not everyone wanted to kill jews.

you are whatever the hell you want to be....consequences will follow if you want to be something the US doesnt approve of (such as a marine who is a "al-qaida" sympathizer). germans killed jews because their government told them to. just like members of the US army invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. you sign up, youre their **** its a little thing called "following orders."

which is another part of nuremburg that ill save for another time

I think the point he's trying to make is a German-based WW2 game is possible BECAUSE there are soldiers in the Wehrmacht who opposed the Nazis. I think everyone in the service accepted that Hitler was the leader, and Hitler wanted the population to hate Jews, it wasn't set in stone that you had to "kill this many Jews". That work was delegated to the SS, and Einsatzgruppen (a part of the Wehrmacht).

But the Wehrmacht wasn't specifically told to go out and hunt down Jews. That's why you have a bunch of Tank and Field Commanders (notably the Kriegsmarine) who got off the hook in Nuremburg. Most they got was a prison sentence, where practically every SS involved with the holocaust was given the death sentence.

[QUOTE="morrowindnic"]

[QUOTE="198d"]

they were all members of the nazi party, thus they were nazis. you need to get your facts straight brah.

you vote republican you are a republican, vote democrat you are a democrat, etc

"Nazi" is short for nationalsozialist. the actual party was called the National Socialist German Worker's Party (nationalsozialistische deutsche arbeitpartei). "Nazi" is how we say it in english, because were too lazy to say things in other languages.

its understandable that a lot of the people that voted for the NSGWP were duped into doing so (*cough* the STAGED burning of the reichstag *cough*), but regardless they did it. They allowed themselves to be a part of that government and be apart of everything that proceeded, mainly out of fear.

on another note:

the schutzstaffel (or ss to people that get all their history lessons from a tube) was an upper echelon branch of the nazi party. they were the "protection squadron" of germany. they get the heat because they were the ones responsible for most of the inhumane crimes committed.

the waffen-ss was the military of the ss, consisting of panzer, infanrty, panzergrenadier, and other divisions. they too got "f'ed in the a" during the nuremburg trials for crimes against humanity

198d

So if I join the US army, am I a Republican, Democrat, Nazi, Communist, non-affiliated, or what? Not everyone supported the Nazi party thank you, and not everyone wanted to kill jews.

you are whatever the hell you want to be....consequences will follow if you want to be something the US doesnt approve of (such as a marine who is a "al-qaida" sympathizer). germans killed jews because their government told them to. just like members of the US army invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. you sign up, youre their **** its a little thing called "following orders."

which is another part of nuremburg that ill save for another time

OH!, So since I'm a decendent of Germans, I must be a Nazi? Or how about since I'm also Italian, am I Facist?

You don't understand my point. The army weren't Nazis, it was the SS and a few people IN the army. The army itself was not out there hunting down Jews. They were fighting a war to conquer Europe, they didn't care about Jews. That was the SS's concern. You think the Luftwaffe was flying around trying to find flying Jews? I think not.

I'd like to see it someday. A new perspective would be nice. I think people fail to realize that while the Nazi army as a whole was very, very bad due to what it represented, the individual soldier was a person, not a monster. There were terrible ones who did horrible things, and others who were nice and amiable. This is true of every single army throughout history. The American, British, and Russian armies were fighting for a better cause, but it doesn't mean that a German perspective should be completely avoided.

[QUOTE="julianwelton"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]technically, you don't shoot nazis in games, you are shooting whermarcht soldiers..... who may or may not be a nazi (and mostly weren't as bad as nazis)funsohng

Hearts of Iron 2, or hearts of Iron 3. its a stratgy game, where you can play any country on earth. i've seen people conquere the world as teh Soviets, then as the Germans etc.

I was asking for a ww2 game in which you play as a Nazi soldier (or if that word seems inappropriate to you), let me say German. I've browsed random games from previous consoles and can't find what I'm looking for. It would be interesting in a video game to see on how would a game progress if you are on the German side. IMO the atrocities they have done shouldn't be brought up, since if there would be such a game, that wouldn't be given much feature because thegame is ABOUT the WAR and not the MASSACRE.

Yeah, though I'm fascinated with these events I haven't known history as detailed as you have,but for those may I ask, do you know about the guy named Von Staffenburg? So you mean there's no Axis Heroes? I don't have to quote posts but many people here think of Germans during those times as one entity being controlled by a race-destroying madman. Based on some posts you treat the Germans as the Jews.

Day of Defeat

but i dont think anyone plays it anymore.

[QUOTE="julianwelton"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]technically, you don't shoot nazis in games, you are shooting whermarcht soldiers..... who may or may not be a nazi (and mostly weren't as bad as nazis)funsohng

The My Lai Massacre, but I guess they don't teach the population about their own war crimes.

[QUOTE="julianwelton"][QUOTE="funsohng"] by your analogy, all Russians, Germans and Japanese should be convicted of crime against humanity and we should have dropped some A-bombs on them and cleanse the entire population after the end of WW2 or soviet collapse or something.morrowindnic

You are joking right? The OP asked for a game that lets you play as the Germans during WW2. Not as Nazis. Being a citizen of a country doesn't mean you support all of its actions. If anyone is a freak here it is you.

all i was thinking of saying and more.

Think people might be going a little overboard on the ability to play as the bad guys being an awful, horrible thing. Playing as the Zerg doesn't MAKE YOU a Zerg. (Or the Harkonnen from Dune, or the Darkspawn from Dragon Age in the "Darkspawn Chronicles" if you want a couple of other examples.)nocoolnamejim

I don't see anything wrong with it. I've played as German* and Japanese in stock BF1942. I've played as Iraqi in the Desert Combat mod.

Especially in the Omaha Beach map where the Germans had a huge advantage in terrain and fortifications.

I was asking for a ww2 game in which you play as a Nazi soldier (or if that word seems inappropriate to you), let me say German. I've browsed random games from previous consoles and can't find what I'm looking for. It would be interesting in a video game to see on how would a game progress if you are on the German side. IMO the atrocities they have done shouldn't be brought up, since if there would be such a game, that wouldn't be given much feature because thegame is ABOUT the WAR and not the MASSACRE.

Yeah, though I'm fascinated with these events I haven't known history as detailed as you have,but for those may I ask, do you know about the guy named Von Staffenburg? So you mean there's no Axis Heroes? I don't have to quote posts but many people here think of Germans during those times as one entity being controlled by a race-destroying madman. Based on some posts you treat the Germans as the Jews.

solely

I was a little disappointed in Call of Duty world at war since there was no German campaign. Do you have any suggestions of an FPS game where you are a soldier from the Wehrmacht or the SS? I don't want any of those zombie,supernatural etc., I'm looking for a ww2 setting, it's ok even if the events are in alternate history (Germany won Barbarossa, Germany repelled the Russians, etc.) Thanks.

solely

While the wehrmacht was certainly complicit in many war crimes (not just the ss), I could see a well structured campaign from the perspective of German soliders that would be very successful. Besides, westerners have no problems playing as soviet troops, and Stalin murdered more people than Hitler did.

While the wehrmacht was certainly complicit in many war crimes (not just the ss), I could see a well structured campaign from the perspective of German soliders that would be very successful. Besides, westerners have no problems playing as soviet troops, and Stalin murdered more people than Hitler did.

Brendissimo35

The left has gone to great lengths over the years to try and legitimize communism. That's why people like Stalin, Castro, and Mao aren't portrayed as being as monstrous as Hitler in our popular culture.

[QUOTE="solely"]

I was asking for a ww2 game in which you play as a Nazi soldier (or if that word seems inappropriate to you), let me say German. I've browsed random games from previous consoles and can't find what I'm looking for. It would be interesting in a video game to see on how would a game progress if you are on the German side. IMO the atrocities they have done shouldn't be brought up, since if there would be such a game, that wouldn't be given much feature because thegame is ABOUT the WAR and not the MASSACRE.

Yeah, though I'm fascinated with these events I haven't known history as detailed as you have,but for those may I ask, do you know about the guy named Von Staffenburg? So you mean there's no Axis Heroes? I don't have to quote posts but many people here think of Germans during those times as one entity being controlled by a race-destroying madman. Based on some posts you treat the Germans as the Jews.

Treflis

rommel actually tried to kill hitler but failed. then i think he was poisoned, poor lil bugga

Yes nazis were disgusting but an FPS should offer a German campain as a change it would be nice i am so sick of playing as the american over and over and over again.

One of reasons ww2 games have been "outplayed" is becasue there is no variety.

and people need to rember that not all the Germans were nazis only a small amount were like the SS most of the normal army were simply there becasue they were made to.

A well structured, well designed and well written campaign from, let`s say, a normal German soldiers perspective could pull a lot of emotional strings, however the general public, especially the media, would deem it a as holocaust simulator and simply ban it.

Hell, the move Downfall got a lot of negative press because it portrayed Hitler as a human being, not a half-man, half-machine baby eating lizard from Mars.

I think Day of Defeat is a good choice