Capcom vs. Konami, Who Do You Like Better?

Two of my favorite game publishers of all time! When it comes to retro-gaming, these 2 publishers are the kings of third-party publishers, IMO.

So I was curious to see which of these two publishers do you prefer?

A list of popular games by each, for comparison purposes:

Capcom:

• 1942 & 1943 Series
• Alien vs. Predator (Arcade)
• Bionic Commando Series
• Breath of Fire Series
• Captain America and The Avengers
• Captain Commando
• Commando
• Darkstalkers Series
• Dead Rising Series
• Dragon's Dogma
• Duck Tales 1 & 2 (and Remastered)
• Final Fight Series
• Forgotten Worlds
• Ghosts 'N Goblins/Ghouls 'N Ghosts Series
• Gun.Smoke
• Knights of the Round
• Magic Sword
• Legendary Wings
• Little Nemo: The Dream Master
• Magical Quest: Starring Mickey Mouse
• Marvel Super Heroes (Fighting Game)
• Marvel Super-Heroes: War of the Gems (Beat-Em Up)
• Mega Man Series and Spin-Offs
• The Punisher
• Puzzle Fighter Series
• Rescue Rangers
• Resident Evil Series
• Saturday Night Slam Masters (Wrestling)
• Section Z
• Side Arms
• Street Fighter & Street Fighter Alpha Series
• Strider Series
• "Vs" Fighting Game Series (Marvel vs. Capcom, SNK vs. Capcom, Street Fighter X Tekken, etc.)
• X-Men: Children of the Atom (Fighting Game)
• X-Men: Mutant Apocalypse (Beat-Em Up)

Konami:

• Aliens (Arcade)
• Base Wars
• Castlevania Series
• Blades of Steel (Hockey)
• Bucky 'O Hare
• Contra Series
• Gradius Series
• Gyruss
• Lethal Enforcers Series
• Life Force
• The Main Event (Wrestling)
• Metal Gear Series
• Monster in My Pocket
• Rocket Knight Adventures
• Rush 'N Attack
• Silent Hill Series
• The Simpson Arcade Game
• Skate or Die
• Snatcher
• Sparkster
• Suikoden Series
• Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Series
• Time Pilot
• Tiny Toons Adventures
• Track and Field
• Vandal Hearts
• X-Men: The Arcade Game
• Zen: The Intergalactic Ninja

difficult choice, Metal Gear is probably my favourite game series, but there are more Capcom franchises I like, mainly their fighting games and Resident Evil

I suppose one could say, pre 1998 , Capcom , post 1998 , Konami.

I suppose one could say, pre 1998 , Capcom , post 1998 , Konami.Darkman2007

Capcom, by far. I like their side-scrolling beat'em ups a lot better, for example, and also their platformers, and Konami hardly did 1-on-1 fighters like Street Fighter.

Plus, Konami seemed to never really be keen to bring their games to Sega consoles, especially the big names,

Both have made some of my favorite games, but only one of them makes Silent Hill

Extremely difficult since they both make my favorite action and horror games, but I give the nod to Capcom because of Street Fighter.

I haven't played many of those games listed, but prefer more the Capcom games i've played.

When it comes to retro games, KONAMI all the way.

the old KONAMI is gone, dead and buried though, while CAPCOM are still good when its actually CAPCOM and don't outsource their games. In this aspect KONAMI doesn't even have a choice but to outsource most their franchises since their teams just don't exist anymore.

When it comes to retro games, KONAMI all the way.

the old KONAMI is gone, dead and buried though, while CAPCOM are still good when its actually CAPCOM and don't outsource their games. In this aspect KONAMI doesn't even have a choice but to outsource most their franchises since their teams just don't exist anymore.

Panzer_Zwei

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

When it comes to retro games, KONAMI all the way.

the old KONAMI is gone, dead and buried though, while CAPCOM are still good when its actually CAPCOM and don't outsource their games. In this aspect KONAMI doesn't even have a choice but to outsource most their franchises since their teams just don't exist anymore.

famicommander

Just recently DRAGON'S DOGMA. It was a fantastic game.

My vote goes to Capcom, by a slight margin because Konami is awesome as well.Eikichi-Onizuka

Same here. And I think it's particularly the Resident Evil games and Bionic Commando that just puts them over the top, for me.

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and Metal Gear Solid 3 - 4 are amongst my favorite games of all time, so... yeah. Capcom is good, but the only series that I really got into with them is Resident Evil... and they haven't made one I really like in a long time. So Konami.

I like both, but I like Capcom a little bit more.

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

When it comes to retro games, KONAMI all the way.

the old KONAMI is gone, dead and buried though, while CAPCOM are still good when its actually CAPCOM and don't outsource their games. In this aspect KONAMI doesn't even have a choice but to outsource most their franchises since their teams just don't exist anymore.

Panzer_Zwei

Just recently DRAGON'S DOGMA. It was a fantastic game.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"] When was the last time Capcom put out anything decent aside from the Ace Attorney series? Monster Hunter, I guess? Inafune, Inaba, Mikami, and Kamiya are long gone and all their series (Mega Man, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Onimusha, Viewtiful Joe, etc) are either dead or a completely awful facsimile of their former selves. They can't even make fighting games anymore. UMVC3, SF4, and SFxT are absolute jokes compared to their output from the previous generation.famicommander

Just recently DRAGON'S DOGMA. It was a fantastic game.

I ADORE the Elder Scrolls games. But I didn't enjoy Dragon's Dogma, so much. The minion system was more a chore than help, IMO. And it did, indeed, feel like a 2nd rate, wannabe, Elder Scrolls, and not nearly as good.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

When it comes to retro games, KONAMI all the way.

the old KONAMI is gone, dead and buried though, while CAPCOM are still good when its actually CAPCOM and don't outsource their games. In this aspect KONAMI doesn't even have a choice but to outsource most their franchises since their teams just don't exist anymore.

famicommander

It's not much, but what about Mega Man 9 and 10?

Though I agree that Capcom are far away from the company they used to be.

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

When it comes to retro games, KONAMI all the way.

the old KONAMI is gone, dead and buried though, while CAPCOM are still good when its actually CAPCOM and don't outsource their games. In this aspect KONAMI doesn't even have a choice but to outsource most their franchises since their teams just don't exist anymore.

GaussRiemann

It's not much, but what about Mega Man 9 and 10?

Though I agree that Capcom are far away from the company they used to be.

Ah, okay.

Maybe, just maybe they'll pull themselves together and revive Mega Man due to the success of Inafune's Mighty No. 9 project on kickstarter, but that's quite unlikely, I'd say.

Ah, okay.

Maybe, just maybe they'll pull themselves together and revive Mega Man due to the success of Inafune's Mighty No. 9 project on kickstarter, but that's quite unlikely, I'd say.

GaussRiemann

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

Just recently DRAGON'S DOGMA. It was a fantastic game.

Emerald_Warrior

I ADORE the Elder Scrolls games. But I didn't enjoy Dragon's Dogma, so much. The minion system was more a chore than help, IMO. And it did, indeed, feel like a 2nd rate, wannabe, Elder Scrolls, and not nearly as good.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"] Gross... I thought it was a second rate Elder Scrolls or Dragon Age, and I think those two series are trash to begin with. I miss the days when WRPGs were... good. Now all there is out there is The Witcher series.famicommander

I ADORE the Elder Scrolls games. But I didn't enjoy Dragon's Dogma, so much. The minion system was more a chore than help, IMO. And it did, indeed, feel like a 2nd rate, wannabe, Elder Scrolls, and not nearly as good.

I love those games, too. I own every Forgotten Realms from the original Baldur's Gate forward (including Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2, the Dark Alliance games, Icewind Dales, etc.).

The appeal of Elder Scrolls is the living, breathing world you are a part of. There are people with real agendas, routines, and scendules throughout the world. There are events that happen and change the world. Your interaction with the world and characters can change the way you are treated and reacted to. And most of all, there is just soooooo mcuh to do. If you found the world to be "empty", then you really didn't get that into it. I easily put over 100 hours into each game, and barely any of that was repeptitive grinding, it was questing. And if you aren't into rigid guild quests, you can just go at it solo and explore the world and take it all on at your own pace. (Sooooo much to explore, too).

[QUOTE="GaussRiemann"]

Ah, okay.

Maybe, just maybe they'll pull themselves together and revive Mega Man due to the success of Inafune's Mighty No. 9 project on kickstarter, but that's quite unlikely, I'd say.

famicommander

Regarding the former: I don't think Inafune is the only one who could do a good Mega Man game. How about Tokuro Fujiwara? I think this won't be that much of problem if Capcom is really behind it.

Concerning the latter: From my experience in recent years, it takes a lot to permanently alienate a video game fan base (I don't say that's necessarily a good thing). Then again, Ninja Theory did it quite easily with the new Devil May Cry.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"] When was the last time Capcom put out anything decent aside from the Ace Attorney series? Monster Hunter, I guess? Inafune, Inaba, Mikami, and Kamiya are long gone and all their series (Mega Man, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Lost Planet, Dead Rising, Onimusha, Viewtiful Joe, etc) are either dead or a completely awful facsimile of their former selves. They can't even make fighting games anymore. UMVC3, SF4, and SFxT are absolute jokes compared to their output from the previous generation.famicommander

Just recently DRAGON'S DOGMA. It was a fantastic game.

[QUOTE="GaussRiemann"]

Ah, okay.

Maybe, just maybe they'll pull themselves together and revive Mega Man due to the success of Inafune's Mighty No. 9 project on kickstarter, but that's quite unlikely, I'd say.

famicommander

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="GaussRiemann"]

Ah, okay.

Maybe, just maybe they'll pull themselves together and revive Mega Man due to the success of Inafune's Mighty No. 9 project on kickstarter, but that's quite unlikely, I'd say.

NationProtector

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="GaussRiemann"]

Ah, okay.

Maybe, just maybe they'll pull themselves together and revive Mega Man due to the success of Inafune's Mighty No. 9 project on kickstarter, but that's quite unlikely, I'd say.

NationProtector

What? Yeah he did. Inafune even hand-drew all the character designs before the game ever came out.

[QUOTE="NationProtector"][QUOTE="famicommander"] Even if they do, who will make the game? And would the Mega Man fanbase come back after the way Capcom has treated them in recent years?Emerald_Warrior

What? Yeah he did. Inafune even hand-drew all the character designs before the game ever came out.

What killed it was Capcom's incessant milking of the crappy RPG spinoffsfamicommander

on over 30 games in the seriesfamicommander

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="NationProtector"] I like how people here don;t realize inafunes the one that killed the series nor was he the creator in the first place. Sometimes people on gamespot scare me.NationProtector

What? Yeah he did. Inafune even hand-drew all the character designs before the game ever came out.

I watched this on the Mega Man episode of G4 Icons. It's on YouTube if you want to watch it. Capcom even still has the original hand-drawn pencillings, which are show in the episode.

Here's Wikipedia's entry which supports that:

Now wanting to capitalize on the fledgling Nintendo system, Keiji's superiors directed him to create a new video game character called "Rockman." Capcom's artist and developer teams were still diminutive at that period in time, and so Keiji was directed to be one of the leading artists in the new project.

When it came to the design for the Rockman game (which was later changed to "Mega Man" in North America), Keiji developed all the art and design for the characters. Due to the small task force, he also constructed the characters into pixel form, as well as the game's respective logo, package design, and instruction booklet. As the Famicom was an early gaming system, only 56 colours were available for display, the majority of which were blue-tinted. Keiji noted that this affected the decision to colour the character blue (as a result, fans have nicknamed the character "the blue bomber"). The design of Keiji's character was also heavily influenced by Japanese animation, and he notes that he took observations from other video game characters present at the time, such as Mario.

Again, he came in after the game was made. Also you need to not use Wikipedia as a source, you have no credibility if you use it. Btw, a fellow poster posted the same thing up a couple from here.NationProtector

I didn't, I mentioned that I saw it in the G4 Icons video of Mega Man. Since I can't quote a video, without you watching it, I quoted Wikipedia which supports what G4 Icons video showed (with parts that have Inufane showing his original pencil drawings).

And if you don't accept Wikipedia as credible, please, show me a credible source citing that Inafune didn't help create Mega Man (obviously he had a some other people working on the game with him).

BTW, here's the video I'm speaking of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gICTbtBfWpg

[QUOTE="NationProtector"]Again, he came in after the game was made. Also you need to not use Wikipedia as a source, you have no credibility if you use it. Btw, a fellow poster posted the same thing up a couple from here.Emerald_Warrior

I didn't, I mentioned that I saw it in the G4 Icons video of Mega Man. Since I can't quote a video, without you watching it, I quoted Wikipedia which supports what G4 Icons video showed (with parts that have Inufane showing his original pencil drawings).

And if you don't accept Wikipedia as credible, please, show me a credible source citing that Inafune didn't help create Mega Man (obviously he had a some other people working on the game with him).

BTW, here's the video I'm speaking of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gICTbtBfWpg

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="NationProtector"]Again, he came in after the game was made. Also you need to not use Wikipedia as a source, you have no credibility if you use it. Btw, a fellow poster posted the same thing up a couple from here.NationProtector

I didn't, I mentioned that I saw it in the G4 Icons video of Mega Man. Since I can't quote a video, without you watching it, I quoted Wikipedia which supports what G4 Icons video showed (with parts that have Inufane showing his original pencil drawings).

And if you don't accept Wikipedia as credible, please, show me a credible source citing that Inafune didn't help create Mega Man (obviously he had a some other people working on the game with him).

BTW, here's the video I'm speaking of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gICTbtBfWpg

Just clarifying that I meant I know that NES games weren't created by a single guy. He was on the team the created the first game, and a good majority of them afterwards. Miyamoto is credited with creating Mario. But he had a team, as well.

BTW, where's that source I asked for? I gave you a video link and a Wikipedia link. Unless you're trying to insinuate you're a more credible source than Wikipedia, I don't think you really believe that, though.

[QUOTE="NationProtector"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

I didn't, I mentioned that I saw it in the G4 Icons video of Mega Man. Since I can't quote a video, without you watching it, I quoted Wikipedia which supports what G4 Icons video showed (with parts that have Inufane showing his original pencil drawings).

And if you don't accept Wikipedia as credible, please, show me a credible source citing that Inafune didn't help create Mega Man (obviously he had a some other people working on the game with him).

BTW, here's the video I'm speaking of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gICTbtBfWpg

Emerald_Warrior

Just clarifying that I meant I know that NES games weren't created by a single guy. He was on the team the created the first game, and a good majority of them afterwards. Miyamoto is credited with creating Mario. But he had a team, as well.

BTW, where's that source I asked for? I gave you a video link and a Wikipedia link. Unless you're trying to insinuate you're a more credible source than Wikipedia, I don't think you really believe that, though.

help create Mega ManEmerald_Warrior

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="NationProtector"] Now you changed it to didn't HELP? Well good job you prove my point by changing your sentence, he was not THE creator. Which is why i said he jumped in after the project already started. Nice video though, i''ll watch it later tonight.NationProtector

Just clarifying that I meant I know that NES games weren't created by a single guy. He was on the team the created the first game, and a good majority of them afterwards. Miyamoto is credited with creating Mario. But he had a team, as well.

BTW, where's that source I asked for? I gave you a video link and a Wikipedia link. Unless you're trying to insinuate you're a more credible source than Wikipedia, I don't think you really believe that, though.

help create Mega ManEmerald_Warrior

No, we don't agree. I'm saying he created Mega Man, with the help of a team. Which as far as gaming is concerned, makes him the creator of Mega Man. The same way Miyamoto is the creator of Mario, who also had a team. You said he didn't create Mega Man.

[QUOTE="NationProtector"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

Just clarifying that I meant I know that NES games weren't created by a single guy. He was on the team the created the first game, and a good majority of them afterwards. Miyamoto is credited with creating Mario. But he had a team, as well.

BTW, where's that source I asked for? I gave you a video link and a Wikipedia link. Unless you're trying to insinuate you're a more credible source than Wikipedia, I don't think you really believe that, though.

Emerald_Warrior

help create Mega ManEmerald_Warrior

No, we don't agree. I'm saying he created Mega Man, with the help of a team. Which as far as gaming is concerned, makes him the creator of Mega Man. The same way Miyamoto is the creator of Mario, who also had a team. You said he didn't create Mega Man.

You said he didn't create Mega Man.Emerald_Warrior

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="NationProtector"] Source for what? i said that he did not create Megaman not that he did not help, what am i sourcing for you for? You also said the exact same thing and proved my point. My point was is that he did not create Megaman. Also, team or no, he never created the franchise, he came in later. What do you need a source for? This? [QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"] help create Mega ManNationProtector

No, we don't agree. I'm saying he created Mega Man, with the help of a team. Which as far as gaming is concerned, makes him the creator of Mega Man. The same way Miyamoto is the creator of Mario, who also had a team. You said he didn't create Mega Man.

To put it bluntly:

You and Famicom are not more credible than Wikipedia and G4 Icons, no mater what you may believe about Wikipedia. Unless, that is, you have a credible source that says different than Wikipedia and G4 Icons.

[QUOTE="NationProtector"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

No, we don't agree. I'm saying he created Mega Man, with the help of a team. Which as far as gaming is concerned, makes him the creator of Mega Man. The same way Miyamoto is the creator of Mario, who also had a team. You said he didn't create Mega Man.

Emerald_Warrior

To put it bluntly:

You and Famicom are not more credible than Wikipedia and G4 Icons, no mater what you may believe about Wikipedia. Unless, that is, you have a credible source that says different than Wikipedia and G4 Icons.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="NationProtector"] How can he be the creator of something that he was not involved in until later? You have a Famicom above saying the same thing, like I said, i only suggest you do a quick google search, and incidentally, your own wikipedia link has a similar statement. Which is odd since you used that as you source.NationProtector

To put it bluntly:

You and Famicom are not more credible than Wikipedia and G4 Icons, no mater what you may believe about Wikipedia. Unless, that is, you have a credible source that says different than Wikipedia and G4 Icons.

I provided the quote from Wikipedia, for everyone to see, here it is again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keiji_Inafune

Now wanting to capitalize on the fledgling Nintendo system, Keiji's superiors directed him to create a new video game character called "Rockman." Capcom's artist and developer teams were still diminutive at that period in time, and so Keiji was directed to be one of the leading artists in the new project.

When it came to the design for the Rockman game (which was later changed to "Mega Man" in North America), Keiji developed all the art and design for the characters. Due to the small task force, he also constructed the characters into pixel form, as well as the game's respective logo, package design, and instruction booklet. As the Famicom was an early gaming system, only 56 colours were available for display, the majority of which were blue-tinted. Keiji noted that this affected the decision to colour the character blue (as a result, fans have nicknamed the character "the blue bomber"). The design of Keiji's character was also heavily influenced by Japanese animation, and he notes that he took observations from other video game characters present at the time, such as Mario.

So again, I'm waiting for this source that says Keiji somehow wasn't the creator of Mega Man. I provided mine, multiple times now at this point. It's really beginning to look like you don't have a source, yet you don't want to accept Wikipedia as a valid source...convenient.