All the women NPC in Anthem = ugly.

Going through anthem video and I noticed all the women npc are ugly. Looks like Bioware purposely made them all mannish and nasty looking to appease sex negative feminists. They did the same thing with Mass Effect Andromeda and 99% of the women in Inquisition. Morrigan & Leliana were still attractive in Inquisition but they were from the original game.

Agent Tassyn seem to look okay at first, but then I saw game play footage of her and her chin & jaw are so huge that she looks like a dude. She also looks very over weight.

You must have a very boring life to be bothered by something like this.

Why resort to personal attacks?

Gal Gadot was beautiful as Wonder Woman.

Angelina Jolie was beautiful in the movie Wanted & Salt.

I like charismatic & sexy actresses, so what.

*puts on tinfoil hat*

Just don't buy it.

Meh. She's not as ugly as the ones in Far Cry 4 and I'm happy to have them as cannon fodder.

Tassyn looks better than some many real-world GI Janes.

Bioware's character creator has never been good. I don't think it's an agenda so much as a lack of talent/effort. Can't even get a long hair option most of the time.

They've made beautiful chars before like Miranda Lawson, Liara T'Soni, Morrigan, Isabela, Leliana, just to name a few.

I think it's more they have pretensions of being "mature", viewing things such as "fun" a detriment to that.

@tarnalia: Ugly women seems to be the least of Biowares problems right now.

Anthem is essentially Monster Hunter clone with jetpacks, and the real question is if the developer can deliver on that with solid gameplay mechanics, content variety, intelligent and responsive A.I. and level design? They have no previous showings to give me confidence they can pull it off. And yet despite never being a Bioware fan. I'm hoping this turns out well, EA have shut down enough studios people like. Plus I may dive in if it gets a good 'unbias' reputation, while waiting for Iceborne.

The game is set on harsh world where humanity is fighting to survive. Most of the women are probably soldiers as well and probably have better things to worry about than putting on makeup and doing their hair.

The game looks so boring anyways who cares.

Wouldn't surprise me or it could just be shitty character models

Yeah I totally get it. I can't enjoy a game unless I can pleasure myself to its female characters. Something something SJW femi-Nazi libtards and so forth.

Guess it's not a game for you.

is the lack of any pictorial evidence from an op in a thread like this a bannable offence? feels like it should be

Do they have to be attractive...?

So do I, but you shouldn't dislike people for looking like people, or media for portraying people as normal people.

These aren't billionaire playboys in armor suits like Tony Stark, exotic amazons like Wonder Woman, or incredibly beautiful freaks of nature like Jolie.

You think a violent future is going to be concerned with supermodels? Sexy actors? Nope the women will be fighting next to the men, as scarred, dirty, and unconcerned about their appearance as anyone.

I thought it was a Destiny clone :P Which means hordes of enemies with bullet-sponge bosses.

Agent Tassyn. Looks like there's some technical problems with the jaw, chin & facial area.

or incredibly beautiful freaks of nature like Jolie.

There's lots of sexually appealing & beautiful actresses in Hollywood in addition to Angelina Jolie.

I'm not in the wrong for expecting characters with physical charisma (nice face).

This character is from Destiny, she looks great:

You think a violent future is going to be concerned with supermodels? Sexy actors?

At least one person yes. Just one.

(Edge of Tomorrow - The whole movie was one big war)

@tarnalia said:

(Edge of Tomorrow - The whole movie was one big war)

If that was a rendered picture from a video game, you'd be telling us how muscular her arms are and that she looks like a dude.

Great movie though! Like Groundhog Day, but with sci-fi war!

Probably more accurate. Well. . Better to put Bioware out its misery

@mrbojangles25 said:

@tarnalia said:

(Edge of Tomorrow - The whole movie was one big war)

If that was a rendered picture from a video game, you'd be telling us how muscular her arms are and that she looks like a dude.

Great movie though! Like Groundhog Day, but with sci-fi war!

Anthem is missing a female protagonist like the woman in the picture. Anthem has no charismatic highly beautiful lead character.

I don't mind athletic woman as long as the developers don't use the same male skeletal rig for the female mesh body model as was the case in Assassins Creed Odyssey & For Honor.

Here's an example of a charismatic female lead, this is at the height of Bioware's game making:

@tarnalia: Miranda was a great character, brought a lot more to the table than just her looks, but I think all her amazing attributes were arguably overshadowed by the fact that she looked so damn good.

There was a line in the game where she was like "Everything about me was genetically designed before I was even born, including my intelligence, blah blah blah. Even my looks were decided!" and I was like "Wow, really? You don't say?", rolled my eyes, and so on....and it's just like they tried too hard to make the perfect woman and it fell into an uncanny valley of too-good-to-be-true.

Thankfully, she had a lot of personal problems, and honestly I think those imperfections made her a better character.

This is all I want from Anthem :) I totally agree with you! She had everything, the complete package.

Not really. Miranda is just a scan of a real life actress and the rest are pretty bland. Take look at art from games like Paragon. Bioware's art team is lackluster.

Oh no, the horror.

I think that's the least of the game's problems.

Agreed, the game looks like a destiny clone outside the flying. The more game play videos I see, the more bored I become.

I also don't like the unisex suit ideas. I prefer male or female suits.

I like pretty women. But it's pretty ridiculous that "the game needs a sexy charismatic woman lead". Look around you, mate. The world is full of generic looking people. I'm no super model, and I doubt you are (nothing personal - the odds are just very poor of having perfect looks). Sometimes women are in games because women exist, not because you need eye candy to oggle. It's about world building, not sexual gratification.

Nothing wrong with liking pretty things. It's a visual medium. It's like the MCU movies that do so well because they not only attract nerds and action fans but tons of women...and I'm sure none of that has to do with the casting of actors like Hemsworth or the exercise programs that turn milquetoasts like Paul Rudd into Chippendales. The only problem is when you transfer those expectations onto real life, which is not what is happening here. Bioware games are just ugly all around, and with the money they spend, it's fair to point it out.

@Ish_basic: well, again, I don't think there's anything wrong with hot characters, and I won't pretend I don't like seeing them. But the entire OP reads like a combination of entitlement for sexual gratification and anti-SJW conspiracy theory. I don't think all the NPCs need to be hot. It's absurd. Walk through Velen in TW3 expecting nothing but Triss's and Yennefers mucking about in the sty?

@tarnalia said:

Agent Tassyn. Looks like there's some technical problems with the jaw, chin & facial area.

or incredibly beautiful freaks of nature like Jolie.

There's lots of sexually appealing & beautiful actresses in Hollywood in addition to Angelina Jolie.

I'm not in the wrong for expecting characters with physical charisma (nice face).

This character is from Destiny, she looks great:

You think a violent future is going to be concerned with supermodels? Sexy actors?

At least one person yes. Just one.

(Edge of Tomorrow - The whole movie was one big war)

I wish she was my Nanny.

@RSM-HQ: Off topic: Is there any special reason why you wrote your signature without Kanji and Katakana? Makes it kinda annoying to read.

It's a line from Be not Defeated by the Rain "when the summer's cold wandering upset called a nobody by everyone"

Famous poem by Miyazawa Kenji, about personal acceptance and inner strength.

But this isn't really relevant to the thread so better to just look up the poem if you're interested. But on that note, yes I like poetry. Originally planned on having the line in English in my sig also, but made the sig look too cluttered and naturally assumed no one really would care.

I'm surprised on how much attention this silly thread got in few days. Like some people already mentioned, ugly female female NPCs is the least of the game's worries. In fact I'm worried about how EA going to handle the game, Bioware's future after the game were released, microtransactions, etc.

If the TC hates how they women are portrayed in Anthem, I suggest him(or her) to play shitty "pornographic" VR games that can be downloaded for few bucks in popular porn sites. If he(or she) more interested on cartoon/anime girls, he/she should play countless of those shitty "hentai" games on Steam for few bucks.

Or I could just play Mass Effect 2. Miranda Lawson is a very charismatic, sexy & beautiful.

Or I could just play Witcher 3. Triss, Yennefer & Ciri completely capture the imagination with their beauty, sex appeal & character.

Or I could just play Vampire The Masquerade Bloodline, the characters in that game were beautiful Quarky, funny, controversial & sexy.

Or I could just play Age of Conan where you can design a beautiful & sexy character.

It's okay for games to have sexy & attractive women in addition to plain, normal, ugly & average looking women. Witcher 3 had a wide variety of women ranging from ugly to extremely beautiful within the scope of that game world. They didn't neglect ANY women, they put ALL women in their game. They were inclusive of all the different types of women in regards to beauty or averageness. Can you understand that?

No one is asking for porn here. You're confusing porn with me just requesting basic facial beauty, attractiveness & sexual appeal.

Having a sexy beautiful woman in your game doesn't automatically equate to porn as proven by many Hollywood movies with sexy female lead actresses.

he wasn't asking for all of the women to be pretty...just some. People wouldn't have had a problem with the question if the genders were switched. That is, it would have generated far less self-righteousness. Anti-sjw or not, people are too damn sensitive.

Bioware art is trash (although to be fair the onus may be more on the modelers and animators than the artists themselves) and their characters, male and female, are taken as a whole rather hideous...like half-shapen mud. Everyone is kinda plain in the world of BW, and that's pretty twilight zone in its own right.

people in glass houses...

Maybe you should ask your girlfriend sit next to the telly next time you play.... Those virtual women would start looking pretty good in comparison!!!

Games... are not real life. If Solid Snake was a 5'6" nerd with glasses he would never become as famous. If Lara Croft was a flat chest woman back in the 90's nobody would remember Tomb Raider.

We play games where we take down armies, save galaxies, fight against giant robots... if we play as characters that look like the guy who picks up my trash can outside... then god help us. Maybe the trash guy is beast, who knows, but usually it looks like a fat dude or old looking guy who dont shower in a week.

A great example would be Horizon ZD. Aloy will never be as famous as any character I mentioned before because deep inside she is a terrible character. So how did she get some fame? Aside Horizon being a good game with amazing graphics, what allowed a short non attractive chubby face high school looking girl get some fame? She is literally a clone of a non attactive weak female scientist. The answer was the hair. Can anyone imagine if Aloy had the same hair as Elizabeth Sobeck? LMAO the hate she would get. So even if Aloy is a terrible weak short looking non attractive feminist character, people liked her hair and we got cosplay girls trying to be her.

Bottom line we like interesting characters. Hot babes, tough guys, lunatic freaks, or Aloy crazy hair (few ppl) reminds me of better Nariko... whatever it may be. We don't like forced ugly feminism :( this bad. Feminism bad, man hating, hairy arm pits on girls... TLoU2 giant nose teen lesbian girl loool

@KillzoneSnake: we're not talking about men being portrayed as asthmatic nerds instead of their intended game character.

We're talking about women being portrayed correctly as their character - warriors, traders, whatever - but their arms are "too bony" or "their boobs are too flat". Says who? Says the person who isn't sexually gratified by their imagery, that's who.

Hell, we don't even know if it's intentional. I think Bioware's animation talent sucks these days. I think the reason for this scandal is simply that they aren't that good a developer. But instead it's the SJWs taking away hotness to ruin the good times.

Right, I get that point of view, but even these women people are complaining about as "ugly" still have model-like perfection and symmetry.

There's a middle ground people just don't want to see, and any time people approach it, it get's jerked out of perspective, generally by the anti-SJW seeing the SJW-boogeyman in the shadows.

Make the female character 110% as hot as the hottest supermodel alive. You don't need to make the character 300% hotter than the hottest supermodel alive. It's uncanny, and lame. It's like wanting to design a character that looks like Halle Berry (attractive), but then you make her already-large boobs twice as big...her already-slim waist even slimmer...her already-amazing booty even rounder...and then you're like "I don't like her short hair it makes her look mannish, let's give her...LONG PURPLE HAIR! The anime folks will love that" and pretty soon the Halle Berry-like character you set out to put in your game is just another cliche female.

The rebooted Lara Croft, for example, is a good example of hot but modest. She is still insanely attractive, but the anti-SJW crowd still saw it as alienating because they gave her an attitude, realistic proportions, and some strong arms. It's like "Woh woh woh...you made Lara into, like, a real person? HOW DARE YOU!"

I find these depictions of female characters a lot more attractive simply because they are grounded in reality. I see a babe in chain-mail bikini armor, I think "That is stupid. Did they have plastic surgery in the fantastical world, too?" but I see one in some tight leather armor with realistic proportions, I think it makes the game more immersive.

What, no fapping while playing a game? Pre-order cancelled!

I still don't understand why the TC wants Anthem to have attractive women in it.

I mean, I get the argument that "I like seeing attractive people" (that's almost a tautology, really)...but that doesn't mean that every video game, film, and TV show needs to be wanking material.

Why can't the game just be what it is?

Also, if "anti-SJW" people like the TC keep hassling developers to modify the women in their games, doesn't that make them exactly the same as the people they hate?