Activision Treyarch Black Ops II Banning Legit Players but Not Hackers.

You should probably call up Activision's customer support, like immediately.

Thank god they are banning these cheaters now. I love these threads. You never see anyone just admiting that they in fact cheated. It's always the same old story. I didn't do it,, Yeah right buddy. You cheated and they banned your ass. You do realize that they can go back and watch your played games as well as watch you live. You can beat VAC but you can't beat the eye test. Just because your hack is considered undetectable doesn't mean that you can fool someone watching you cheat. I can't wait for more of these threads. You cheat you get banned. Suck it up and deal with it. We have to deal with you ruining games because your a cheater.

Again, call Activision. This is not Steam's issue, this is Activisions. Call (not email) their customer support. You need to speak with a real person on this issue. If you contest this, and there turns out to be no evidence that you cheated, this can be reversed. But you've got to fight.

you have to understand, so many cheaters on black ops right now... i wont be surprised if everyone stats will be wiped soon.

I believe this is yet another way that Activision and Treyarch increase sales. Read on for why this is a logical conclusion.

Let me give you something to think about, to all those that pressume that this is all done to protect the legit from cheaters.

If this was the truth then why let these people that DO cheat get to play again by repurchasing?

All this means is that if they have the funds for this they will just come straight back into the game so you are still playing with those that cheat.

Maybe a 2nd chance? no wait 3rd chance? hang on a 4th chance? wait how much money have you got? can you not see yet how this marketing ploy and is not protecting the legit ! but a continuing way of producing revenue by reselling the product over and over again.

How this is helping LEGIT players is beyond me. Ok so the number may decrease as more that cant afford repurchase dont, but doesnt stop those that can.

Now they ask that you report using the INBUILT report system, we all know there are many jealous haters, not to mention hackers which all make FALSE reports.

So if your at the TOP of scoreboards then you WILL attract this attention even more so, same as if your a very skilled player and own someone chances are if it's a childish immature gamer then he will just report you too, hell forums are full of such examples if you ever read anything.

Now i'm going to make some quotes from @pcdev on Twitter and explain a few more FACTS !

"pcdev@pcdev

We have already permanently banned thousands of cheaters from BlackOps2 PC. Play nice. Don't cheat. "

Thousands of cheaters all being banned based from the report system inbuilt into the game.

The game has been released only a few weeks and i quote from the Activision Banning Information Page

"All infractions undergo a thorough review process by the Treyarch security team before enforocement, and penalty is not subject to further review"

So thorough that they have been able to watch thousands of theatres of those who have NOT been detected as VAC cheats, now if you think they have thousands of staff checking this to enable them to as they put it conduct "a through review process" then ok, personaly i doubt this very much indeed.

So it doesnt take much intelligence to see that this kind of broad statement has no real meaning and is what i believe to be far from the truth, so doesnt take to much stretch of logic and imagination to realise if any LEGIT player had recieved enough False reports that unfortunately they would also get caught in this trap.

Not only that but "penalty is not subject to further review"

Ok if you know much about gaming for instance there are also lots of false positives, meaning that sometimes many things can go wrong and technical errors can produce false readings, so you might even get detected as cheating when not, yet they seam to be ignorant of this FACT as refuse as they state to not to "further review". to me it says they have NO interest what so ever and DO NOT care if you have been falsely accused. Why would they? thats another purchase you are forced to pay if wanting to carry on and play with friends.

LOOK at MW3, there is a ban appeal ! So they have either MADE MISTAKES or consider it to be OK TO LET CHEATERS BACK, thats if there reason for this is it's not a 0 tolerance policy, hence i say again THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE LEGIT PLAYERS otherwise why let these cheats apply to get accounts back. Either way that makes not sense and also it also makes no sense when...

THERE IS NO APPEAL for black ops II. So now suddenly no mistakes are being made or they think it is ok to let cheaters back into MW3 but not black ops? Yes there is now a 0 tolerance policy but also NO room for any form of appeal for any reason even if it ended up being a technical error or as i know a mistake and they cannot nor will provide any PROOF (becuase there is none & it's a possibility of an extra sale). So why is this so different then MW3? They are going to have different attitudes towards different games? amongst many other questions none of which can make any sense to this situation.

REMEMBER NO PROOF IS GIVEN !

Surely if a thorough review process is being done then the FACT is it wouldnt take much to record/ take details and then PROVIDE THIS PROOF to the accused and convicted instead refusing to do so. Instead they just banning them with no correspondence what so ever !

I also quote from @pcdev

5:20 PM - 5 Dec 12Curtis :)@CurtisB3321

@pcdev I'm sure in the past there have been false bans. So if its a false ban, u wont lift it? semms legit.

5 Dec pcdev @pcdev
@CurtisB3321 No. There have not been false bans.

Ok so we already assatained that with MW3 they OBVIOUSLY made mistakes to thousands of LEGIT players as there is an APPEAL link to contest this, otherwise why provide one unless they agree with letting cheaters back into the game there?

So i believe this is a blatent lie from pcdev !

The FACT that it is his belief that there have been NO false bans in the past i feel just shows how ignorant this man is amongst many others out there.

I will also add that i have come across many different reasons people are getting banned in my attempt to clear my name, for example one's that altered files for vs bots games for e.g. slowing down time etc, who also recieved permanent bans.

As far as i am aware there is NO GAIN by this therefore how can it be judged as CHEATING when no other real life person is involved or effected other than the gamer who wants to play his game his way and have fun with it?

This says to me they dont care about whether you cheat or have not, Yes you did alter files and Yes that is stated to be against the rules but supposedly because of those that do it to gain a unfair advantage hence the cheat accusations and the reason for banning, but this was done where no effect was put on ANY other gamer. People have been modding cod for years, now it has stopped and those that do get a permanent undisputable ban?? Plus dont forget there is a "thorough review process" yet no proof given? surely this does not make any sense if you use your logic, otherwise seeing these users are NOT cheating or gaining an unfair advantage if they actually looked means nothing to them!

Like i said i believe this is a marketing ploy and they do not care about the end user one tiny bit and all direction is around getting more sales.

I could go on providing you with more questions and points to all those that believe that NO mistakes are being made nor have beenuntil this changes your views on this and makes you see TRUTH and FACT !and even though they say are doing this to protect the legit players from the cheaters all the facts i present do not agree with this.

I will finish by also saying that i have ended up buying another account so i can continue to play with my friends who i have already mentioned as being at the top of the scoreboards as they are some of the BEST LEGIT ZOMBIE KILLERS IN THE WORLD

I am not prepared to ring gaining a coslty bill to an overseas help line when this attitude and points are being held on their website as it would be stupid to assume that their helpline would say any different just ending me up with an even larger hole in my pocket and end up buying again anyway.

Not only am i working my way up the kills etc leaderboards fast although wasting a lot of time doing crap like this that i should never have needed to but also i am already getting back some of my high scores in rounds survived in maps getting BACK INTO THE TOP 10 in the world !

My friend i play with EVERY DAY is also in the TOP 10 for kills still and working his way up slowly was 6th last time i looked !

There is proof everywhere that i do not cheat nor do i need to in theatres of lots of top players that i play with constantly, all of which hate cheats and hackers and are at the top of the game.

My playtime was huge and more than most of my friends hence how I was able to get to the top of the Kills, Revives, Gibs, Headshots etc Leaderboards, which placed me in direct line for these false reports using their ridiculous report system. (cant even add comments)

ALL THE EVIDENCE IS THERE FOR YOU TO SEE PROVING I DONT CHEAT ! ffs go watch it people.

If you are still an ignorant fool believing there are not people out there that did not deserve a Ban then more the fool you.

But if now your starting to see the light and the real truth then please dont jump to the wrong conclusion and comment as if that person is a liar too as they have suffered enough as it is, maybe you might be right 9 times out of ten though as many say they dont when they do but YOU WILL BE WRONG at some point and that is just another kick to the balls you have given a LEGIT gamer unfairly, depressing and upsetting them even more , well i hope you feel proud of yourselves !

I'll be ok if could rewind time, if not if i can push a button to NUKE the lot of them for real after what they have done to me and the way they continue to treat fair LEGIT gamers like myself the world over, not to mention pump out a game thats so full of problems every year to maximise profit with no thought for the gamers every time that cant play, cant run, cant connect, false banning, freezing, backwards tech and options etc... and a blantent lie saying 0 tolerance on cheaters when allowed to repurchase. what UTTER BULLSH*T ! Why not release one every 2 years and try get it right for once and Stop taking the Piss with Map Packs too!

Oh wait they wont do that as its a possibility of charging over double what the game cost within a year and get to do it again the next by releasing an unfinished game again and so on, and thats what market research can do if abused. They know we will keep buying and get bored of maps (hence the true reason for them stopping providing the tools to create our own ) and know we know maps inside out within an alotted time frame so have planned this exactly around that. If you cant see that then your blind for sure !

Hell if they opened it back up to modding (+mapping) then maybe they wouldn't produce such a lame follow up each year too, as i beleive they are talentless fools that can only get inspiration from others ideas, oh but they stopped that home user creation and people wonder why now their game is stale and same old same old? lmao

Too many console owners think they are at the top of the tech ladder and have not seen how things have filtered through from pc to console for many years, yet now we get ports from console to PC , OMG it's ridiculous and all because of MONEY and customer base ! bottom line is YOU lose out and games are not what they should be!

So i am sorry but forgiveness will not be given to a bunch of Assho*les, extortionists and blatent liars WHO DO NOT GIVE A SH*T ABOUT YOU !

They Do NOT deserve it and will not get it from me !

I am still being ignored by EVERY Activision and Treyarch department i contact, I have sent way to many emails etc , tweets just get deleted and ignored whilst they continue to LIE and con people !

http://www.mmdnewswire.com/black-ops-2-hacks-122908.html

Says Exactly what i have said all along! and more and more are realising this as time goes by.

This company is the WORST in the world i have EVER known and i have been around from the start of electronic gaming, yes even worse then EA.

At least with EA you can get some from of reply from support and some justice if lucky! ( Try to kill of 2nd hand sales ! cd key assigned already + battlefield heroes? pay for time with weapons and extra's that run out? OMG what a constant rip off ! i could go on....)

I will continue to NEVER buy another CoD game if it does not come with zombies and the minute something comes along that beats that then this bunch of scum will never ever see another penny from me, and if i ever meet any of them...... i will do to them what they have done to me.

WALK ALL OVER THEM WITH MY SIZE 10 BOOTS !

Call me a cheat and rob me then ignore me . Fu**ing Toss*rs !

If only they were a uk company i would already be in their offices banging heads against the wall like they made me do !

Just seams to me the bigger they get the less they care and more emphasis is put around dragging in the revenue instead of pushing the limits of what can be offered. Ends up being 2 totally different outcomes!

Thank god there are some decent open source based free to mod companies out there that continue to support their customer base, Treyarch and Activision could learn alot from people like MOJANG & VALVE !

Yes they can ban anyone they want without a reason, and knowing activision their employees most likely will do this every once in a while. It sucks. All I can say is please keep fighting if you can find the energy to do so, and please never buy from such an untrustworthy company ever again.

He can probably get away with saying "No False Bans" because MW3 was a Infinity Ward game, not a Treyarch. So even though MW3 may have had false bans, that game wasn't made by Treyarch.

Hi,

Just a quick note. I feel for you, I would call a lawyer and file a class action suit against all parties involved meaning go after their wallets of all the software companies that have their names on the BO2 game including Steam. What this will do is force them to pull all records of you and try to prove that you really cheated... What it all comes down to if you really cheated can be proved with a computer or console setup by them and with no hacks installed in the game that way they will see first hand that you really are a good player and deserve the No1 spot. If they so choose to remove the ban and reinstate your stats is meaningless cause if they can't prove that you really did cheat then they will be forced to review all individuals that they banned over the years and it will be very costly for them, so stand up and defend yourself man this is war like the game inplies either kill or be killed. Make them pay and they will pay dearly.. It will set them back a few years income wise but do you really think they care about us the consumer they are interested in only one thing like all big companies and that's is how much money they can make off us players. Hit them where it will hurt the most and thats their wallet, no company likes to be sued cause it digs into the one place they value the most and that's their greed for money. Greed nowadays is the leading cause for all people to want something you have. Don't be greedy with your suit but state the obvious prove I cheated or I will prove I didn't and make you pay otherwise reinstate me and I'll drop the suit. Make them want to make a deal with you to avoid a class action suit, cause from what I've read about what they did to you they don't stand a snowballs chance in hell of proving that you really did cheat.

on another note,I also own BO2 on the pc platform, through Steam. I let my 14 yr. old son play and even though I taught him how to play years ago and I was at that time a very excellent player with 1st and 3rd person shooters. Now my son makes me look like an amatuer player and if I were to get banned because of his playing and we both hate cheaters. I would sue like I stated above and show them how much better my son is over me with a live demonstration of us both playing... I suck at BO2 so bad at the hardest setting, it's fairly easy in the beginning but after a couple of levels I'm always forced to lower the difficulty cause the game gets too real life... I like to do stupid crap in-game which make me get killed way too easly haha... but hey it's only a game who cares if it takes me a year to beat it at least I'm having fun. My son on the otherhand can beat any game you give him in less than a day on the most difficult setting and if they think he's cheating then they better be ready for me to attack cause I don't play games with my wallet.

I'm a long time player through Steam since Halflife 2(was friends with a CS2 clan and almost joined the clan back then) was released and I own almost 100 games now and I'll tell you some of these games on the pc platform are really difficult and since I don't have the coordination I used too I'm not as good anymore playing them. My son keeps trying to get me to buy my own xbox360 so we can play head to head, he already has a xbox360 I can't hold the controller correctly, so I humor him when playing co-op.

Sincerely,

Philip