The PS5 Is A Big Console For A Good Reason

@Jimminyfixit: It's not really about the Playstation vs Xbox. It's that this gen has proven that optimization beats horsepower hands down. And the more graphically intense, the more likely the game will be an unplayably buggy mess. "Power" just doesn't have the allure that it did 7 years ago. Nowadays I just want a game that works from day 1, not 3 years later after numerous patches. Tflops in no way addresses that problem.

@Shantmaster_K: Go ahead man, download a game from the 90's and crank up the settings to max. Let me know if it takes advantage of your RTX 2080 ti.

It won't because the game is capped fundamentally. At the very core, it is still a 90's game. This could change if you make a remake of it, but at this point you are creating a whole new game. That would not be business smart for Microsoft. You'll just get a powdered up version of the X box one titles.

That is why any cross gen titles you compare, look marginally different, unless you make side by side comparisons but that goes against the whole idea of upgrading to next gen...

@Shantmaster_K: Wow....toxic. Are you 12 years old?

@Shantmaster_K: I am excited to hear out your logic, explain it as if I am totally naive to "computers", but also include how it is relevant to non-upgradable hardware and enhanced cross-gen titles.

While you are at it, give an example of this phenomena for the current-gen consoles

@just1mohr: Meh. If the console is as hot as they say it is, I'd rather wait a year or two for a revision anyway. Or another Pro upgrade.

@just1mohr: Yet you are okay with paying solely for Xbox one remasters...

Great Logic

While you are at it, buy two Xbox series X's, that way you have double the teraflops!

@just1mohr: I’ll take TLOU2 and Ghost over anything Xbox is about to create lol.

@just1mohr: You guys are missing the point, whether the PS5 titles that come out this holiday are all gems is aside from the fact that Xbox has nothing for at least a year, yet some of you will still dish out the hefty sum of money. Why the Xbox community is alright with this, blows my mind.

Based on what Matt Booty said, you guys won't see anything worth what you paid for until next Christmas season, that being a best-case scenario.

And please don't try to argue that this gen will be able to cater to both new and old consoles. The same was said about last-gen, yet far cry, assassin creed, watchdogs were titles released on both and the difference was hardly noticeable unless you had side by side comparisons.

But this is to be expected, no developer is going to create separate versions of the same game from the ground up. So you cater to the bigger market and enhance it for the newer model (smaller market)

Yes, the x box series X is more powerful than the ps5 but it goes out the window if you don't have exclusives, while at the same time releasing remasters (enhanced versions) as an efficient compromise

Lastly, aside from Ryse and Sunset Overdrive (which are close to a decade old), Xbox has depended on the same old gears and halo combo. They had an opportunity to offer something fresh this gen but they shot that idea down very quickly.

Again, why the Xbox community has agreed to this sh**** deal is hard to wrap my head around.

I invite you guys to name any cross-gen titles from this gen that were night and day different...

Also, if you guys want to start picking apart AAA exclusives from Sony, I am happy to do so but I am positive that Xbox has a much much shorter list to choose from

You are buying a NEW gaming console.....WHERE ARE THE GAMES THAT MATCH THE UPGRADE???

@bababooey12: Just give me one Xbox series X title to critique, any, indie/ AAA....

You can't, at least for a year, if you are lucky

Exactly my point

@cage_92: Xbox has ZERO next-gen titles and Matt Booty made sure you didn't go off daydreaming for at least a year

If the titles are coming out for both consoles, how is that win for Xbox???

"Start using your brain please" is not mutually exclusive...

@gamerbum: lol. that is like saying an "OC RTX 2080 Super" has a huge advantage over an RTX 2080. While neither can touch the Ti. Hope you get it. Tflop advantage won't matter if ps5 pro drops. Which does not need to happen because not many people cared about the xb1x or ps4 pro. If MS drops a weaker version, most regular people will get the cheaper version anyway. None of this really matters in the end. You will buy your system, I will buy mines. You be on xbox live, I will probably play single player games. So what, none of this matters. Are you Microsoft? Is this why you care so much about a console which you will gain no revenue from the sales? Oh yeah, forgot to ask, how come xbox bois only post in Sony threads and not their own? You post more on this side than you do on your own. Which I find funny.

@gamerbum: you think that 2-3 “teraflops” is going to be some insane advantage...it won’t be. The reason last gen people were so on PS4 was because Xbox completely botched their Xbox one initial reveal and PS4 was more powerful while being cheaper, with no required camera/motion capture.

This is a such a generational leap going to 7nm Zen2 processes, nobody said the Xbox won’t have SSD speeds, they’ll just be half of that of Sony’s PS5 SSD which will be lightning fast, while the Series X will still be VERY snappy, definitely not close to PS5 in storage tech in the long haul, although best realized on PS5/PC only games. PS5 also has a dedicated memory controller on its chip that takes a lot of overhead off of the CPU, gimme my “10Tflop” PlayStation any day of the damn weeek.

@gamerbum: Got sources on that? Also it's too late to do any upgrades, architecture is locked in at this point. Too bad all those tflops go to waste while waiting for assets to load and move around the pipeline. That sweet Unreal 5 demo cannot run on the XsX's slow I/O pipeline at any usable fps. Guess that makes folks mad and they gotta flex whatever they got......

@gamerforlife96: I get the power, just that its going into Xbox one remasters...

@darkelf83: That and I think the main reason why they moved the disc drive to its spot is to keep it away from the hottest part of the system. I noticed with the PS4 that the disc drive is pretty close to the hottest part of it and is likely responsible for that oily rainbow effect you see on the bottom of discs. I know people say it's a blu-ray thing, but I don't buy that. I think it's a hot disc thing. I checked all of my games and discovered all of the games I own that have never been played or only inserted long enough to check them, and those games too low tier to get the cooling fan running, are completely free of that oily effect.

@VGjunkie87: Unfortunately Sony in it's last quarterly report massive drops in revenue with losses in their electronics and entertainment(music, movie and theater) divisions due to the Covid pandemic. Only the Playstation division has kept them above water.

That combined with the higher costs of their console will make it difficult for them to match Microsoft on pricing with the next gen console launch this fall.

At the same time the trillion dollar Microsoft(which already has a bigger balance sheet than Sony) declared year on year increases in revenue and profit on all their divisions(software, cloud infrastructure and gaming) this quarter. More importantly Xbox management said that they will be flexible with their Xbox Series X pricing so that they can be competitive with the PS5.

The Xbox Series X is similar in shape and most importantly performance to other high end PCs like the Corsair One(with its mini ITX case) that normally costs $2800 retail. The Xbox Series X will most likely sell for more than 5x less.

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Unfortunately I am not a fan of the black and white dual tone color scheme of the PS5. It also doesn't look that nice especially on it's side as it looks unbalanced and unstable with it's center of gravity off center