Nintendo: Devs concerned over used sales should make better games

Dear Nintendo,

Drastically update your hardware and give me a regular controller, then I'll gladly give you my money.

P.S. - I wish the game industry would focus more on the gameplay and less on the graphics. Cel-Shade everything, I don't care just give me a great game.

Thanks,

Most consumers.

I'll be buying a Wii U this holiday season to go with my (2) pre-ordered PS4s. Microsoft isn't going to see another dime from me. I think that about says it all.

I might buy a wii u now just because of this article

Makes sense.

Nintendo is a company that is not full of sh it.

I agree completely about Nintendo. They're games have so much replay ability. FE:RD for example, once you pass the 1st play through the second play through would give you different choices and more characters to join you, with harder difficulties.

Those words increased my respect for Nintendo tenfold

Not being a troll but this is only true because Nintendo takes years to develop games and once those ten games are made they are pretty much done with that console. They make quality games that I have played on the SNES, N64, Gamecube, and Wii. However, on all of those systems it has been the same exact games, Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, and Super Smash brothers. Once again not trolling but it's easy to not mess up when you are just rehashing the same games over and over. And don't even try to say they don't do it, look at their E3 line up for the Wii U (Zelda the windwaker which is a gamecube rehash, Mario Kart, Donkey Kong country returns (I played the demo another rehash), Super Smash Brothers which is my favorite game of all time but you have to be a fan boy to the extreme it's no more of a rehash than Call of Duty games.

Not that I'm particularly fond of Nintendo, but this is spot on. Few games have a solid replay value, and that's nobody's fault except the devs and the publishers (sadly, the publishers are often more at fault than the dev, because they hold all the money the dev needs).

Now this is interesting. It is also consistent with N's refusal to install the newest tech. in their consoles, as they rely on software quality (not hardware quality) to entice players.

It is also true that used copies of core Nintendo games hold their value (try finding an affordable GCN Fire Emblem, for example). I must admit though that I haven't investigated if Xbox original or PS2 games hold similar value.

@YukoAsho @paladin1459 @Grenadeh @flammable_zeus not All fps games are alike. i totally agree with ur post.

I personally do not like military style shooters...and i do get why they are sorta demonized..but if peeps like that kind of game make it too.

personally i feel jrpg's are the best value at their price

:-D

> wii u

@YukoAsho @paladin1459 @Grenadeh @flammable_zeus yuko you have a good grasp of videogames to make that comment, i applaud you for not being a dumbass, people really are still playing doom, just look a rich from reviewtechusa on youtube

Most games have absolutely no re-playability. Why? Because some developers are lazy and then blame us for trading in their games. But why would I want to play Tomb Raider a million times if the only thing I get is an extra difficulty level. Video games companies need to find creative ways to fix this problem.....and adding a half-assed multiplayer component to the game does not count either.

Exactly! Publishers like EA rush games and cut corners like mass effect and when the consumer is left disappointed and sells the game, EA rage and whine and then try to restrict the consumers ownership rights by trying to restrict game resale? Wtf? Say no to this bullshit, it simple make better games then you won't force my hand, you bunch of dicks.

@shinta125 @paladin1459 @DarkReign2552 I'm no hater of Call of Duty (I enjoy the crazy ass single player the way I would an arcade game), but you're right that the biggest problem is the trend-chasing. During the hayday of the NES and SNES, there were so many sub-par Mario clones, and of course none of them caught on the way Mario did because even the kids back then understood they were rehashes. After all, why play a Mario clone when you've got the real deal in your collection already.

It's the same thing today. We're seeing so many CoD clones, but companies don't understand that the people who love CoD are more likely to stick with it than buy some store-brand knockoff.

@paladin1459 @shinta125 @DarkReign2552 The flaw in your logic is A) Sony DOES have legacy, prestige franchises, and B) non-Nintendo franchises HAVE risen to prominence. GTA's been around since the late 90s and for many have become an automatic purchase. For a lot of people, Metal Gear only started at MGS1 for the PlayStation, but that series is beloved now.

It's not IMPOSSIBLE to make long-lasting, impactful franchises in the modern day. Just make awesome games and don't annualize the bloody things.

@paladin1459 @Grenadeh @flammable_zeus I would disagree that FPSes have no innate replayability beyond multiplayer. A well-designed FPS will present users with different ways to excecute combat, hidden paths and the like, and hell, they might just be exciting enough that people will want to keep playing. DOOM still gets plenty of play, and that game's from the early 90s.

I don't like the man much, but here, he's right on the money! Nintendo makes amazing games, and people love them, so you don't see as many trade-ins.

The equation is so simple, yet so precious few companies are willing to embrace it.

Reggie is pretty much the biggest tool in the industry. Nintendo isn't concerned with used game sales because all of their games cost like $10,000 to make because all of Nintendo's consoles are a generation behind.

He's completely correct. If a game is incredibly good and worth revisiting time and again, I will never sell it. That applies to basically all Nintendo games.

He is absolutely correct. Games I believe in, I purchase new.

Games which look sketchy or I'm really unsure about, I wait and see, and perhaps go used. If the used option did not exist, I would not be buying those games at all. There are plenty of times where a used purchase has led me to fall in love with a developer, then purchasing all their games new. Those purchases wouldn't happen if I hadn't fallen in love with them from the used purchase. I have convinced many friends that various games were great by lending them out. Those friends then become purchasers of those games in the future!

You take away used games, you take away a crucial part of the market, a crucial promotional avenue, and are cutting off your future customers!! As a snot-nosed kid, you know what I did? I bought used! I rented! I skimmed by on cheap-ass methods because I couldn't afford new games! As an adult, because I fell in love with games as a kid, I purchase tons of new games! I would not have fallen in love with gaming if the only option available was out of my price range.

Restricting used sales and lending is cutting off the nose to spite the face. It is a short-sighted solution to a problem which doesn't actually exist. If the publishers would simply have reasonable budgets, worthwhile games and realistic sales expectations, they wouldn't be having money troubles.